Area P????

[noche_caliente]

So, rumor has it that Santa might just bring me a new exhaust for Christmas

I know that I want the area P, and that I want the quiet core, but I have trouble deciding between the 15" and the 18".

Anyone have experience with either one? How do they compare to stock? I want a little more of a throaty sound, which the Area P seems to have - especially the standard, but I don't know that I would be able to tolerate the sound level of it....

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions??? Thanks!


*UPDATE* Kerry emailed me back today (I sent them one yesterday morning) and included a sound clip for the quiet core. It was much louder than I was expecting, but I think that's the one I'm going to go with.... I don't think I could handle even the 15" after hearing the 18"!

[Kurosaki]

Quiet core all the way. You will hear it but it is not stupid loud or annoying. I love mine. Some think the QC can is too long but I think it's just fine and looks great.

[kkim]

I think she's trying to decide between the 15" and 18" QC. The original (loud) AP cans are 12".

[Kurosaki]

Yeah but I figured 15 is still on the loud side, at least for my ears given the 3" increments. I wouldn't want mine any louder and if it was, I wouldn't like it. I figure that's what the 15" is.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by Kurosaki

Yeah but I figured 15 is still on the loud side, at least for my ears given the 3" increments. I wouldn't want mine any louder and if it was, I wouldn't like it. I figure that's what the 15" is.

I agree with you... I wouldn't want the exhaust to be any louder than it already is, either. But you know, some are slaves to "fashion"... damn the functionality... which is why they give us choices, I guess.

[VeX]

You posted in the 1st gen forum . Yeah I'd shy away from the 12" indeed! I'd like to get a 15" myself as I think it'd be a good compromise, but that's $225 I don't have to burn at the moment.

[islanderman7]

Umm, I looked at Area P's website and I do not see a 15" quiet core for the 250. I'm confused. Is it more for this option, like $225 more according to Vex?

[kkim]

Originally Posted by islanderman7

Umm, I looked at Area P's website and I do not see a 15" quiet core for the 250. I'm confused. Is it more for this option, like $225 more according to Vex?

they don't show the 15" can on their site, but you can order it instead of any of the other sizes they offer (12 or 18). The $225 Vex is referring to is if he were to buy only the 15" can to replace the 12" can he has now. Area P is a great company who excels in customer service. If you have any questions email or call Kerry at AreaP. I suggest you speak with Kerry as he's the boss there and some others that others have spoken to have not been as knowledgeable as he. I can't say enough about Area P's quality of product, superb customer service and willingness to satisfy the need/wants of their customers.

Can you tell I'm a very satisfied customer??? Believe it or not, I'm a very picky customer and when something doesn't go right, I'll let you know. When something does go right, you've got a loyal customer for life.

[islanderman7]

Originally Posted by kkim

they don't show the 15" can on their site, but you can order it instead of any of the other sizes they offer (12 or 18). The $225 Vex is referring to is if he were to buy only the 15" can to replace the 12" can he has now. Area P is a great company who excels in customer service. If you have any questions email or call Kerry at AreaP. I suggest you speak with Kerry as he's the boss there and some others that others have spoken to have not been as knowledgeable as he. I can't say enough about Area P's quality of product, superb customer service and willingness to satisfy the need/wants of their customers.

Can you tell I'm a very satisfied customer??? Believe it or not, I'm a very picky customer and when something doesn't go right, I'll let you know. When something does go right, you've got a loyal customer for life.

I can tell. But you are right, I feel they have good customer service. I sent them a question and the emailed me back the same day. Good turn around.

Anyways, I'm guessing you and Kurosaki have the 18" how's that working for you guys? Was debating between which size to get because for one, I like LOUD sounds (I am hard of hearing so I can tolerate it), but at the same time I don't want a citation. LEO's in my area are pretty anal.

[k-os]

I was tempted to buy this today. Pretty good price, and I just love the look.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HR1-R...Q5fAccessories

It's about $100 cheaper than ordering directly from their site.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by k-os

I was tempted to buy this today. Pretty good price, and I just love the look.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HR1-R...Q5fAccessories

It's about $100 cheaper than ordering directly from their site.

you do know those things are loud as fark, don't you?

[Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by islanderman7

Anyways, I'm guessing you and Kurosaki have the 18" how's that working for you guys? Was debating between which size to get because for one, I like LOUD sounds (I am hard of hearing so I can tolerate it), but at the same time I don't want a citation. LEO's in my area are pretty anal.

Well, don't let the name confuse you too much. It's called quiet core but that's quiet compared to the standard 12". If you get on the gas and let the engine rev, people will hear you. But it's very mild at cruising and lighter throttle. I don't have a problem hearing mine in the middle of the ton of loud bikes when I'm at the track.

Originally Posted by kkim

you do know those things are loud as fark, don't you?

And I think it's just a slip-on?

[Ducati916Senna]

All I can say is Loud Pipes Save Lives.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by Ducati916Senna

All I can say is Loud Pipes Save Lives.

you can say it, but it still doesn't make it true.

[camaroz1985]

I can also say Loud Pipes Annoy Me



That is why I kept the stock pipe. Sure it is ugly, heavy, and limits performance, but I just couldn't deal with something loud on a 4-5 hour ride.

[Kurosaki]

It sounds like the Quiet Core is for you then!

[islanderman7]

Originally Posted by Ducati916Senna

All I can say is Loud Pipes Save Lives.

Well not against DEAF people. Deaf people can legally drive too you know.

[Felix]

My bleeding ears will tell you to get the quiet core!

Dont get me wrong, I LOVE my can, sure its so loud my brain rattles off my spine, but it sounds GREAT when I'm into it! Also it HAS alerted blind cagers to my arrival, so I approve of that.

... but if I knew it was this loud I would have got the quiet core :P

Felix

[Ducati916Senna]

Listen to a Jardine GP1 exhaust on a Gixxer and tell me this exhaust is still too loud. You guys are a bunch of pansies. Like the guy at area p told me when I ordered my wife's exhaust, "Who wants a quiet exhaust anyway?" . I agreed.

[TrueFaith]

I have the standard (not QC) full Area-P system on my 250R and I really don't think it's that loud. The sound is nothing compared to some of the V-twins with straight pipes that blast through here on a daily basis. While it is louder than the stock pipe, I don't think it's TOO loud. I find it pretty easy to throttle down when I'm approching the center of towns to keep the noise down and have passed many a policeman without a problem. Once away from town though, there's nothing like that deep, throaty sound on the back roads. It really does add to the riding experience and I'd never go back to a stock pipe or switch to a quiet core.

[Ducati916Senna]

Amen, brother.

[Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by Ducati916Senna

Listen to a Jardine GP1 exhaust on a Gixxer and tell me this exhaust is still too loud. You guys are a bunch of pansies. Like the guy at area p told me when I ordered my wife's exhaust, "Who wants a quiet exhaust anyway?" . I agreed.

Kerry at Area P is really great (I met him in person) and their operation and customer service are top notch but he is a salesman. If you're interested in the standard exhaust, of course he's going to sell you on it. I was interested in the QC and he did his best to sell me on.

Incredibly obnoxious exhausts like the gixxer you mentioned doesn't make the standard AP not a loud exhaust. It is. Bikes with REALLY loud exhaust like what you're describing don't belong on the street, IMO. It's borderline noise pollution. The 12" AP is not that extreme and is pretty tolerable but it's still pretty loud. If that's your thing, then cool.

But not everyone wants everyone else in a mile radius to hear them when they ride.

It's not like the quiet core is quiet like the stock exhaust. It's just quieter than the standard. Don't let the name "quiet core" fool you. It still has the same throaty tone and alot of volume, especially at WOT in the second half of the RPM range. If I ride to a friend's house, he knows when I get there because he can still clearly hear me. Have you heard the Quiet Core before?


At my last day out at the track with a group of other 250s, I was the only one with a QC pipe and everyone else had the 12". I think I know the difference. It's not like the sound of my bike was getting lost among the others.


If there was no point or merit to the quiet core, it would never have been made. It became an option out of generated interest for performance gain with less of a trade off of having a really loud bike. Because that's what the Area P is about, right? The performance first. If having a loud bike and nothing else is the main goal, a loud slip-on would have accomplished that goal.

[Ducati916Senna]

I was just messing with you guys. No need to get all defensive. LOL. What ever you like on your bike is a matter on personal taste. I think just having an aftermarket exhaust is cool, period. Even though, my wife thinks her exhaust is just right.

[noche_caliente]

*UPDATE* Kerry emailed me back today (I sent them one yesterday morning) and included a sound clip for the quiet core. It was much louder than I was expecting, but I think that's the one I'm going to go with.... I don't think I could handle even the 15" after hearing the 18"!

[kkim]

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

*UPDATE* Kerry emailed me back today (I sent them one yesterday morning) and included a sound clip for the quiet core. It was much louder than I was expecting, but I think that's the one I'm going to go with.... I don't think I could handle even the 15" after hearing the 18"!

Good choice... sometimes function just has to win out over form.

I know you're going CF... what end cap are you getting?

[HKr1]

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

That is why I kept the stock pipe. Sure it is ugly, heavy, and limits performance, but I just couldn't deal with something loud on a 4-5 hour ride.

Yeah, we went back to stock this weekend. Wife liked it quiet & really missed the compression breaking

[noche_caliente]

Originally Posted by kkim

Good choice... sometimes function just has to win out over form.

I know you're going CF... what end cap are you getting?

no clue yet - I'll probably just let the hubby pick - I don't know that he realizes just how much the thing costs! I'm tempted to go with the stainless because of the cost, but I like the added safety factor of the cooler CF for the kid... not to mention that I think it will look better with the black...

After looking more... I think I like this one the best...

[kkim]

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

no clue yet - I'll probably just let the hubby pick - I don't know that he realizes just how much the thing costs! I'm tempted to go with the stainless because of the cost, but I like the added safety factor of the cooler CF for the kid... not to mention that I think it will look better with the black...

If I had known the CF can does not heat like the SS can, I would have gone for CF for that reason alone. I'd also go CF with a black bike for looks.

yep, I like that end cap, too.

[noche_caliente]

Originally Posted by kkim

If I had known the CF can does not heat like the SS can, I would have gone for CF for that reason alone. I'd also go CF with a black bike for looks.

yep, I like that end cap, too.

Damn, I must be getting too old-fashioned if we are thinking alike on this

[kkim]

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

Damn, I must be getting too old-fashioned if we are thinking alike on this

no, you're just starting to think smarter.

does your head hurt, yet???

[Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by kkim

If I had known the CF can does not heat like the SS can, I would have gone for CF for that reason alone. I'd also go CF with a black bike for looks.

yep, I like that end cap, too.

I tell you, on a cold ride, it's nice to get to where I'm going and put my hands on the muffler to warm them up.

[VeX]

I don't like chrome and like the "pro-street" look from the 80's so that's why I went CF. Then again I waited until someone sold their bike and picked up the full Area P for (If I remember correctly) $300. If I had ordered through Area P though I would've definitely gotten the flush end cap like is in the picture. From what I've heard Area P is more than happy to put those caps on for no extra cost and they look slick!

That and I hate the 12". It LOOKS better IMO, but is way to f'ing loud. Quiet core FTW!

[HKr1]

Get an end cap like Kelly's

[kkim]

Originally Posted by HKr1

Get an end cap like Kelly's

oops! you're showing your age again.