DIY Install of the Bikemonkey Integrated LED tail light

[mattyg909]

thanks so much paul i really do appreciate it

[Momaru]

Hah, or you could do it that way

As far as the flasher relay, I'd say grab the one you've got and hit up your local auto-parts store for an electronic flasher relay that'll handle LED loads.

Here's a post in this thread that discusses someone else's solution relay that also removed the stock flashers.
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...5&postcount=31

[DarkNinja52]

sooo... im confused as all hell.. i have no idea what a diode is or what a resistor does

i plan on installing protons with a bm integrated tail light.. apparently the tail light comes with a flasher relay.. what else do I need?

[AnarchoMoltov]

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

sooo... im confused as all hell.. i have no idea what a diode is or what a resistor does

i plan on installing protons with a bm integrated tail light.. apparently the tail light comes with a flasher relay.. what else do I need?

Here's a DIY on how to wire a DIODE, there may be another way to get it to work, but I know this way definitely works.... http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...e+turn+signals

[DarkNinja52]

ok so i need a diode. thanks man. im not sure i understand why though, i read through a bunch of these threads dealing with tail lights and resistors and led's.. but i cant seem to understand why i need it

[randomwalk101]

Diode prevent back flow. You put it in per instruction to sep out right from left line so each signal works indep of each other..otherwise if you hit the signal, both side will flash (at stock rate if you swapped out the flasher).
I've done the research and gave the info to another member who wrote a nice and easy diy to follow...
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[DarkNinja52]

nice, that makes sense, i read somewhere on here that the other side lights up because of backflow and since diodes prevent back flow that seems to make sense. thanks again

[RD423]

Where do u put the FL-32? I am not sure where to put it or how to install it.

[Momaru]

The FL-32 replaces the stock signal flasher relay, located in the rear left (as if you're sitting on the bike) tail cowling just behind and outboard of the seat. Here's a picture of my stock relay from my '08 once I'd removed it


You just pull the stock relay off the white plug pictured here (from OP) and attach your new relay. Might want to zip-tie it in place though.

[DarkNinja52]

When i put the turn signals on, the correct side of the tail light flashes, but in between flashes, the running light doesnt stay on, so essentially, half the light goes off and just blinks yellow instead of red to yellow then red back to yellow pattern? help

also how do i wire the rear stock signals in addition to the bm light

note: protons installed along with diode under teh dash.

[Momaru]

AJ, turns out my bike does the same thing; amber flashing instead of red-amber alternating for turn signal. I've got the same setup: protons up front, diode mod and BM in the rear (both stock & integrated signals in back). Think it's something to do with the diode mod, but not sure. However I like the change as I think it's simpler for cagers so I'm going to leave well enough alone.

[blbills]

I really like the bike monkey integrated tail light.

Does anyone have an electrical schematic of one? Or pictures of the inside? Is it just a series of LED's with resistors for each different circuit? (Brake, left/right turn signals) Or is there something special about it?


Thanks.

[DarkNinja52]

Originally Posted by blbills

I really like the bike monkey integrated tail light.

Does anyone have an electrical schematic of one? Or pictures of the inside? Is it just a series of LED's with resistors for each different circuit? (Brake, left/right turn signals) Or is there something special about it?


Thanks.

I'm not sure what you're exactly looking for but take a look at this. It might help a bit.
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...t=24500&page=2

the tail light has resistors in it so you don't need any if thats what youre asking. if this post didnt help then reword the question and maybe ill be able to help.

[QUE5710N]

Sorry for this being my first post to the site but Ive got til tomorrow to figure this out and I go to work in 2 hours. I have installed the light into the bike and inserted bulb like fitting. I replaced the stock signal resistor thing with a FL-32; however, my LED signals are not flashing and my tail light stays lit as if the brake is being applied. I checked all 6 or 7 of the fuses in the box all were good. What to do? Please help and Il make sure and post my intro. Monday. Thanks ahead of time for the help.

[jonthechron]

Hum, I can help you figure it out, but I need more details on your installation.. beginning with..

What is this FL-32 "thingy" you speak about? Can you provide me with a link to where you got it? Or provide it's specs, or something?

How did you connect the light? Try and get some CLEAR PICTURES about your installation and joints, if that's not possible, at least what wire you connected with what other wire.

[xKoTx]

ok installed mine it doesnt flash . i removed the original turn signals so now all i have to do is change the relay? what is the exact part i need to get ?

[QUE5710N]

jonthechron: the fl-32 part is the resistor for leds. I got it from autozone. It allows my blinkers to flash, which are working perfectly but my brake like is constantly illuminated. As far as installation, I didn't splice any wires I just plugged in the 1157 light bulb part into the taillight light bulb socket.

[xKoTx]

But you removed the original turn signals or kept them?

[Momaru]

Originally Posted by QUE5710N

jonthechron: the fl-32 part is the resistor for leds. I got it from autozone. It allows my blinkers to flash, which are working perfectly but my brake like is constantly illuminated. As far as installation, I didn't splice any wires I just plugged in the 1157 light bulb part into the taillight light bulb socket.

Might check your brake light sensors, especially the one just inboard of the foot/rear brake pedal; the flasher change shouldn't affect your brake light function. You adjust the cutoff for the rear brake light signal by rotating the plastic nut up/down on the threads.

(pic borrowed from Samuel913's DIY on WRRP rearset install)


For clarity, I believe the FL-32 is a flasher relay, not a resistor.

[Momaru]

Originally Posted by xKoTx

ok installed mine it doesnt flash . i removed the original turn signals so now all i have to do is change the relay? what is the exact part i need to get ?

Do the turn signals light @ all? They should at least light whether you've got the right relay or not.
I assume you hooked the blue & yellow wires coming from the BM light into the associated positive leads from the flasher signals on the stock wiring when you removed the stock turn signals?

[xKoTx]

yes i connected them to the positive and the just stay on so do i need resistors to close the chain or just change the relay?

[Momaru]

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

When i put the turn signals on, the correct side of the tail light flashes, but in between flashes, the running light doesnt stay on, so essentially, half the light goes off and just blinks yellow instead of red to yellow then red back to yellow pattern? help

also how do i wire the rear stock signals in addition to the bm light

note: protons installed along with diode under teh dash.

Figured it out, at least in my case. I'd bought the wrong type of flasher, which wound up causing some weird issues with my Protons as well as the BM "no interim red". Replaced it with one of the CF12ANL-01 from superbrightLEDS and all works as it should now

[romeo127]

i know im late by a year but i just got my bike and ordered the bike monkey integrated tail light, when i was installing the black wire from the integrated tail light came out of the housing, is there any place that i could take this to solder it back into the housing?

[power noob]

Do you guys like this bikemonkey light better than the shinto integrated break light?

[sterlan]

Hey I have a problem and i wanted to know if you can help me out. I have a 2010 ninja 250R and i am trying to install a integrated tail light from Bike Monkeys. I connected all the wires and connectors, but when i tried to do a test, The brake light works. However the the right and left turn signals they just stay on and does not blink. If you can help me out that will be great. Thank you.

[romeo127]

Originally Posted by sterlan

Hey I have a problem and i wanted to know if you can help me out. I have a 2010 ninja 250R and i am trying to install a integrated tail light from Bike Monkeys. I connected all the wires and connectors, but when i tried to do a test, The brake light works. However the the right and left turn signals they just stay on and does not blink. If you can help me out that will be great. Thank you.

Did you replace your electronic flasher?

[sterlan]

Not sure what you mean about a electronic flasher. Is that the stock flasher relay? \If that is what you are referring to, then no, i did not replace it. The only thing i did was replace the rear stock light with the BM integrated tail light. All the wires are connected correctly because the brake light, left and right signal light function. The only problem i have is with the turn signals not flashing, they just stay on without blinking. please please help me!!!!!!!!!!!

[TenaciousD]

Originally Posted by sterlan

Not sure what you mean about a electronic flasher. Is that the stock flasher relay? \If that is what you are referring to, then no, i did not replace it. The only thing i did was replace the rear stock light with the BM integrated tail light. All the wires are connected correctly because the brake light, left and right signal light function. The only problem i have is with the turn signals not flashing, they just stay on without blinking. please please help me!!!!!!!!!!!

From post #59 in this very thread

Just to add to this thread, if you use the BM tail light signals with the stock front blinkers then you will need an electronic flaher. You can purchase the FL-32 flasher at Autozone for $8.00. Works great! Remove your stock flasher and install the FL-32, no cutting, direct fit. I also used the kawi universal signal wire kits that I purchased from cyclegear. Again direct fit, no cutting.

[romeo127]

Yea go to kragen or autozone and bring the stock relay and they should direct you to a thermal flasher relay or an eltronic flash relay 552 I think. I had that same problem all will be solved after the new relay

[sterlan]

thank you guys for the help. I will definitely get the FL-32 Electronic Flasher Relay and install it as soon as possible. I will give you guys and update once i install it.

[Shadozknight]

First, this site is great! Just got my 250 a month ago. Just got my integrated tail light. So I just connect the yellow from the new taillight to the green from the bike and nothing to the negative from the bike? I think I read this earlier but wanted to be 100% before I start touching the electrical.
Thanks in advance

Since I just posted, I thought I'd also let ppl know that a lot of ppl want to know how a Level One Racing exhaust sounds like. Check out my YouTube cause I got one since no-one else has one..lol
-avi-

[Alex]

Hi Avi -

No such thing as off the subject here, but things need to be in the appropriate area. Why don't you move the post about the exhaust to its own new thread in the tech section? This thread is a DIY (do-it-yourself) thread for the bikemonkey tail light install.

- Alex

[Shadozknight]

So now if I do install my integrated tail light and also have front led lights, I gotta add diodes too, to get them all not light up at the same time? Geez

[snowsoldier]

so, all i have to do it install light - blue/yellow wires to positive. remove stock signals off bike.
and change relay flasher so it can support leds?

sounds easy enough!

[CZroe]

I just got my Sportisi undertail and I'm wondering if I should wait until I can afford to buy an integrated tail light before I install it. Because it surrounds the tail light with the same piece that goes under the tail I can see it making things difficult if I can't take it off easily. Should I wait?

[Momaru]

I'd say that depends on how much of a stinker to the undertail is to install. The tabs and rear-sear support spar in the back make it pretty much impossible to pull the light 'into' the bike to remove it, so I'd expect the undertail will have to come off.

That said, I don't have an aftermarket undertail, so I might be wrong, but my

[muzkur]

Thanks!
That DIY was so useful! My taillight was done.

[Nayt]

You may have covered this already, sorry. But, the bikemonkey tail light has two wires yellow (h0t) and blue (negative) where exactly are these being wired to since there is only ONE pair of wires and TWO signals left and right.

[Shadozknight]

those are the positive wires to the left blinker and the right blinker. the ground is run from the 1 ground wire thats connected to the brake light in the center housing. in another words, you dont need to wire anything to the negative for the blinkers, just to the positive for the left and right blinker.

[muzkur]

Indeed.
At first looks weird but make sense.

Using the brake negative wire it don't need a resistor to blink correct I guess.