Plug and Play 4.5 rear Rim? - Page 3

slolane · June 28th, 2011, 12:09 PM

Nice! Thanks guys I appreciate looking out for me. I wouldn't say the sidecases are perfectly aligned either... based on the joker that installed them! LOL

dubojr1 · June 28th, 2011, 12:12 PM

Here's another picture that should help. Notice the mirrors are similar and so are the fairings. It's not perfect but it appears much closer.

blade · June 28th, 2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slolane

Got my wheel today.

Unwrapped...

Next to our 2011 250 with stock wheel and 130 tire...

Some mounted shots...

After a short test ride I see I was able to easily use more tire, I didn't have time to ride out to some nice twisties but it was a good test still...

great pics ,but just wondering if it made it any taller because of the tire? thx

slolane · June 28th, 2011, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade

great pics ,but just wondering if it made it any taller because of the tire? thx

It is a little taller, not much but I haven't measured... Maybe an inch if I had to guess.

dubojr1 · June 30th, 2011, 11:08 AM

James: Do you plan on leaving yours flat black or are you gonna PC or paint it to match the front. I'm still unsure how to handle mine because I hear the green wheel strip on the SE's are actually painted on. I'll be PC'ing mine for sure but how to duplicate the wheel strip is the issue. Maybe rim tape and the 3 foot rule will work

slolane · June 30th, 2011, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

James: Do you plan on leaving yours flat black or are you gonna PC or paint it to match the front. I'm still unsure how to handle mine because I hear the green wheel strip on the SE's are actually painted on. I'll be PC'ing mine for sure but how to duplicate the wheel strip is the issue. Maybe rim tape and the 3 foot rule will work

I'm leaving mine flat black, if I were to do anything I would paint the front flat black to match the rear. Mine is kinda covered with the sidecases more than yours but either way I wouldn't worry about it. Out of the several people that noticed the wider wheel/tire and asked me about it, not one said anything about the difference from front to rear wheels... they were all checking out the rear going

So now my wife wants the same setup for her 250, I may be ordering new tires and another wheel very soon.

dubojr1 · June 30th, 2011, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slolane

I'm leaving mine flat black, if I were to do anything I would paint the front flat black to match the rear. Mine is kinda covered with the sidecases more than yours but either way I wouldn't worry about it. Out of the several people that noticed the wider wheel/tire and asked me about it, not one said anything about the difference from front to rear wheels... they were all checking out the rear going

So now my wife wants the same setup for her 250, I may be ordering new tires and another wheel very soon.

Ha! For my own sanity, I'll have to do something. Your talking to a guy that removes the fairings occasionally to clean the engine with detail brushes

I would loose sleep if I left it flat black. My OCD overrules logic most of the time...

slolane · July 1st, 2011, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Ha! For my own sanity, I'll have to do something. Your talking to a guy that removes the fairings occasinaly to clean the engine with detail brushes

I would loose sleep if I left it flat black. My OCD overall's logic most of the time...

Haha, I hear ya... how about you put it on and ride it for a couple of weeks and then decide which path to take... 1. match front to rear, 2. match rear to front or 3. leave alone.

??

choneofakind · July 5th, 2011, 06:41 PM

Ok so I'll admit this rim along with a 150 rear makes that look pretty badass and sexy. I will admit I've been doing a lot of hating on people for wanting a wider rear tire, but only because they pinch in the stock rim. Seeing as this keeps the tire from pinching, I say this looks awesome, and it makes the user of the radial tire able to get the look/performance they want without pinching the tire and potentially loosing contact patch at full lean. looks great.

ocsick · July 20th, 2011, 11:47 AM

Will a 150/70 clear the swing arm ?

dubojr1 · July 20th, 2011, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocsick

Will a 150/70 clear the swing arm ?

why not a 150/60???

ocsick · July 20th, 2011, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

why not a 150/60???

a buddy has a 150/70 new one in his shop, he said I can have it.... so this is why I'm asking.

dubojr1 · July 20th, 2011, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocsick

a buddy has a 150/70 new one in his shop, he said I can have it.... so this is why I'm asking.

hmmm... A 150/70 would be taller right? I think that would be pushing the limits especially if you have any kind of a hugger.

slolane · July 20th, 2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocsick

Will a 150/70 clear the swing arm ?

Hi Frank, I'm not too sure. Maybe Matt (ztrack157) would know, he hasn't tested multiple sizes but maybe you will get luck if he has the 150/70. Best of luck!

ocsick · July 22nd, 2011, 06:08 AM

Got it in!

WOTurtle · July 22nd, 2011, 11:27 AM

Oh hell yeah

slolane · July 22nd, 2011, 12:17 PM

Nice Frank!!

Post up some additional pics when you have a chance.

Merc250r · July 22nd, 2011, 02:11 PM

Slolane so you had no problem at all with the 150? with the stock wheels? if not then I'm going to go ahead and order the Michelin pilot power

gt_turbo · July 22nd, 2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocsick

Got it in!

how much did the gold powder coat run you? looks good

put some feedback on how it handles in the twisties now.

ocsick · July 23rd, 2011, 03:58 AM

a few Benjamins + tire/bearing removal

Here's a tire comparison shot.

ocsick · July 23rd, 2011, 05:29 AM

slolane · July 23rd, 2011, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merc250r

Slolane so you had no problem at all with the 150? with the stock wheels? if not then I'm going to go ahead and order the Michelin pilot power

No problems at all running the BT016 150 on the stock wheel.

slolane · July 23rd, 2011, 08:06 AM

Nice Frank, the gold compliments the red very well. Again, great job!!

Merc250r · July 23rd, 2011, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slolane

No problems at all running the BT016 150 on the stock wheel.

what do you think I was going to push it to 160 Michelin or should I just stick to 150/60/17?

or 160/60/17

front should be 120/70/17?

slolane · July 24th, 2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merc250r

what do you think I was going to push it to 160 Michelin or should I just stick to 150/60/17?

or 160/60/17

front should be 120/70/17?

After a bunch of reading on here I went with a 110 front and 150 rear as my setup and really like it.

dubojr1 · July 29th, 2011, 06:20 AM

I did my swap last night and I'm testing everything now. I will warn anyone looking to do this of a couple things I came across during the install.

1. This mod can not be done with stock chain length and the 15T upgrade front sprocket. I had to go back to the stock 14T to gain some additional length in the chain so the tire could clear the swing-arm near the engine. I plan to adjust the rear sprocket size to regain the gearing upgrade ratio the 15/45 gave me. I'm think a 14/42 combo will be pretty much do the same as the 15/45.

2. Some modifications may be need to clear the stock chain guard. I cut a small notch in it that is pretty much invisible under my Scott hugger.

3. The clearance to a Scott hugger are really close right now. I'm thinking once the rear sprocket is changed and I gain some additional chain length, it will help move the tire further away from the hugger. I looking now for additional options for a different chain/hugger set-up.

I'll try to get some pictures of these concerns and this mod later this weekend.

greatwhiteninja · July 29th, 2011, 06:27 AM

id like to see a comparison shot with a 150 mounted on the stock rim to the 4.5" rim with a 150..

dubojr1 · July 29th, 2011, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhiteninja

id like to see a comparison shot with a 150 mounted on the stock rim to the 4.5" rim with a 150..

Here's the best one I have for now. You can clearly see the shapes of the tires are totally different.

dubojr1 · July 29th, 2011, 06:53 AM

I will also warn to those that it may matter..... The "flickibilty" of the bike has been noticeably reduced. For the first ride with it this morning to work, I found it to be more of a predictable flick but definitely different. It reminds more of my 08 CBR 600RR so the bike still changes direction quickly but just not as quick.

slolane · July 31st, 2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

1. This mod can not be done with stock chain length and the 15T upgrade front sprocket. I had to go back to the stock 14T to gain some additional length in the chain so the tire could clear the swing-arm near the engine. I plan to adjust the rear sprocket size to regain the gearing upgrade ratio the 15/45 gave me. I'm think a 14/42 combo will be pretty much do the same as the 15/45.

2. Some modifications may be need to clear the stock chain guard. I cut a small notch in it that is pretty much invisible under my Scott hugger.

1. Interesting, I'm running a 15/42 so didn't encounter this.
2. Mine fit with it in the stock position, no mods needed.

Thanks for the feedback

Kurgan · August 13th, 2011, 01:16 PM

Here's another option for those wanting a wider rear rim to properly mount the 150 tire....

Link to original page on YouTube.

It's a Honda NSR250 rim complete with sprocket and brake, and it mounts to the Ninja 250R with a brake caliper adapter plate.

I'm not sure on what the cost would be on the NSR rim/sprocket/brake combo as opposed to the wider stock N250R rim, but at least it's another option.

The question I have is this....does the front rim from an NSR250 also work to have a matching set, or would it need a caliper adapter plate as well?

cerberusrex25 · August 13th, 2011, 03:10 PM

I believe you are also gonna need a set of custom spacers, the ones he puts in the hub there look like they are custom.

Bo0stZomb13 · August 18th, 2011, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurgan

Here's another option for those wanting a wider rear rim to properly mount the 150 tire....

Link to original page on YouTube.

It's a Honda NSR250 rim complete with sprocket and brake, and it mounts to the Ninja 250R with a brake caliper adapter plate.

I'm not sure on what the cost would be on the NSR rim/sprocket/brake combo as opposed to the wider stock N250R rim, but at least it's another option.

The question I have is this....does the front rim from an NSR250 also work to have a matching set, or would it need a caliper adapter plate as well?

If I had to guess lot more $$$$

Kurgan · August 18th, 2011, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo0stZomb13

If I had to guess lot more $$$$

It would depend if you had a motorcycle junkyard to look through for parts, find a wrecked or dead NSR with a 4.5x17 rim and snatch it up as cheaply as possible.

I did find some new rear rims on ebay for $500, but they were 4.5x18.

And I think there's a way to use the front NSR rim as well, I spotted a custom Ninja250R with that 6 point front rim on it, with a different brake rotor design.

That's a vinyl wrap on the MotoGP scoop nose from A-Tech, and a Ducati tail kit, and some sort of blue/purple iridium coated windshield.

It looks like it just jumped out of a time machine from the 60's.

cerberusrex25 · August 18th, 2011, 09:06 PM

Bike looks awesome until we get to the vinyl, is like a unicorn puked all over it.

Kurgan · August 18th, 2011, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerberusrex25

Bike looks awesome until we get to the vinyl, is like a unicorn puked all over it.

I never said I liked the vinyl part, just the mechanical stuff.

My plans for my bike, if I ever get the money to do them, are far more subtle than the Rainbow Bright Cycle up there....

boytoy101 · August 20th, 2011, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurgan

I never said I liked the vinyl part, just the mechanical stuff.

My plans for my bike, if I ever get the money to do them, are far more subtle than the Rainbow Bright Cycle up there....

anyone done a modification on the swing arm to have more clearance for the er6f rim...er6f is the ninja650r, i have a rim already and it has a bt003rs 150/60/17 i want to put a 160/60/17 because the maximum tire size u can put on er6f is 160 but i have a problem issue on the swing arm...any tips on my swing arm????thanks guys

nickadolph · August 20th, 2011, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocsick

Your front end seems kinda high.

Kurgan · August 20th, 2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boytoy101

anyone done a modification on the swing arm to have more clearance for the er6f rim...er6f is the ninja650r, i have a rim already and it has a bt003rs 150/60/17 i want to put a 160/60/17 because the maximum tire size u can put on er6f is 160 but i have a problem issue on the swing arm...any tips on my swing arm????thanks guys

There's one bike on youtube called "The Blue Beast" that has pieces cut out of the stock swingarm to fit a 180 rear tire.

So far that's the only stock swingarm mod I know of, all the rest are swingarm swaps, which seem to me to be the better way to go in terms of swingarm strength and safety.

wandyhee · January 20th, 2012, 02:42 AM

you can check the link under my signature

some clearance pic below. so far I'ver ridden it up to 8100km +- mileage with no single problem. on the road and on track. tire are shinko 011 verge radial 160/60/17

comparison with standard wheel & tire

https://picasaweb.google.com/wandyhee/NINJA#

https://picasaweb.google.com/wandyhe...November122011

we offer wheel set 3" front & 4.5" rear at the cost usd315 including shipping

June 30th, 2011, 11:08 AM	#85
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	James: Do you plan on leaving yours flat black or are you gonna PC or paint it to match the front. I'm still unsure how to handle mine because I hear the green wheel strip on the SE's are actually painted on. I'll be PC'ing mine for sure but how to duplicate the wheel strip is the issue. Maybe rim tape and the 3 foot rule will work __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

July 29th, 2011, 06:20 AM	#106
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I did my swap last night and I'm testing everything now. I will warn anyone looking to do this of a couple things I came across during the install. 1. This mod can not be done with stock chain length and the 15T upgrade front sprocket. I had to go back to the stock 14T to gain some additional length in the chain so the tire could clear the swing-arm near the engine. I plan to adjust the rear sprocket size to regain the gearing upgrade ratio the 15/45 gave me. I'm think a 14/42 combo will be pretty much do the same as the 15/45. 2. Some modifications may be need to clear the stock chain guard. I cut a small notch in it that is pretty much invisible under my Scott hugger. 3. The clearance to a Scott hugger are really close right now. I'm thinking once the rear sprocket is changed and I gain some additional chain length, it will help move the tire further away from the hugger. I looking now for additional options for a different chain/hugger set-up. I'll try to get some pictures of these concerns and this mod later this weekend. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

July 29th, 2011, 06:27 AM	#107
greatwhiteninja Ridin Dirty Name: Ed Location: Delaware Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 white se 250r , 2008 zx6R Posts: 921	id like to see a comparison shot with a 150 mounted on the stock rim to the 4.5" rim with a 150.. __________________________________________________ #1

July 29th, 2011, 06:53 AM	#109
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I will also warn to those that it may matter..... The "flickibilty" of the bike has been noticeably reduced. For the first ride with it this morning to work, I found it to be more of a predictable flick but definitely different. It reminds more of my 08 CBR 600RR so the bike still changes direction quickly but just not as quick. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

January 20th, 2012, 02:42 AM	#120
wandyhee ninjette.org member Name: andy Location: Borneo-Miri Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R FI, 2006 ZX10R Posts: 175	you can check the link under my signature some clearance pic below. so far I'ver ridden it up to 8100km +- mileage with no single problem. on the road and on track. tire are shinko 011 verge radial 160/60/17 comparison with standard wheel & tire https://picasaweb.google.com/wandyhee/NINJA# https://picasaweb.google.com/wandyhe...November122011 we offer wheel set 3" front & 4.5" rear at the cost usd315 including shipping __________________________________________________ I'm Selling wider (4.5" & 5") aftermarket Wheel for N250r/N300r/Z250/Z250r

June 28th, 2011, 12:09 PM	#81
slolane Motorcyclist Name: James Location: Maryland Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: A lot.	Nice! Thanks guys I appreciate looking out for me. I wouldn't say the sidecases are perfectly aligned either... based on the joker that installed them! LOL

July 5th, 2011, 06:41 PM	#89
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Ok so I'll admit this rim along with a 150 rear makes that look pretty badass and sexy. I will admit I've been doing a lot of hating on people for wanting a wider rear tire, but only because they pinch in the stock rim. Seeing as this keeps the tire from pinching, I say this looks awesome, and it makes the user of the radial tire able to get the look/performance they want without pinching the tire and potentially loosing contact patch at full lean. looks great.

July 20th, 2011, 11:47 AM	#90
ocsick ninjette.org newbie Name: Frank Location: NY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 7	Will a 150/70 clear the swing arm ?

July 22nd, 2011, 06:08 AM	#95
ocsick ninjette.org newbie Name: Frank Location: NY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 7	Got it in!

July 22nd, 2011, 11:27 AM	#96
WOTurtle ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: Columbia, SC Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09' 250 ARRRRRR Posts: 130	Oh hell yeah

July 22nd, 2011, 12:17 PM	#97
slolane Motorcyclist Name: James Location: Maryland Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: A lot.	Nice Frank!! Post up some additional pics when you have a chance.

July 22nd, 2011, 02:11 PM	#98
Merc250r ninjette.org member Name: Murad Location: Orlando fl Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Yamaha FZ6R Posts: 84	Slolane so you had no problem at all with the 150? with the stock wheels? if not then I'm going to go ahead and order the Michelin pilot power

July 23rd, 2011, 03:58 AM	#100
ocsick ninjette.org newbie Name: Frank Location: NY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 7	a few Benjamins + tire/bearing removal Here's a tire comparison shot.

July 23rd, 2011, 05:29 AM	#101
ocsick ninjette.org newbie Name: Frank Location: NY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 7

July 23rd, 2011, 08:06 AM	#103
slolane Motorcyclist Name: James Location: Maryland Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: A lot.	Nice Frank, the gold compliments the red very well. Again, great job!!

August 13th, 2011, 01:16 PM	#111
Kurgan ninjette.org guru Name: Kurgan Location: Texas Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 260	Here's another option for those wanting a wider rear rim to properly mount the 150 tire.... Link to original page on YouTube. It's a Honda NSR250 rim complete with sprocket and brake, and it mounts to the Ninja 250R with a brake caliper adapter plate. I'm not sure on what the cost would be on the NSR rim/sprocket/brake combo as opposed to the wider stock N250R rim, but at least it's another option. The question I have is this....does the front rim from an NSR250 also work to have a matching set, or would it need a caliper adapter plate as well?

August 13th, 2011, 03:10 PM	#112
cerberusrex25 Accesories Guru Name: Dave Location: Centreville, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): '99 EX250(Cafe/fighter project) Posts: 537	I believe you are also gonna need a set of custom spacers, the ones he puts in the hub there look like they are custom.

August 18th, 2011, 09:06 PM	#115
cerberusrex25 Accesories Guru Name: Dave Location: Centreville, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): '99 EX250(Cafe/fighter project) Posts: 537	Bike looks awesome until we get to the vinyl, is like a unicorn puked all over it.

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