May 25th, 2015, 01:13 AM | #2 | |
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May 25th, 2015, 06:08 AM | #3 |
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Going so slow and he still put that huge dent in the car.
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May 25th, 2015, 06:39 AM | #4 |
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I believe he should have turned the cards on the guy and full throttled into the driver's door and window.
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May 25th, 2015, 06:48 AM | #5 |
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Shows some promise.
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May 25th, 2015, 07:18 AM | #6 |
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I feel sorry for the bike. That amazing, beautiful machine capable of stopping on a dime being wasted on that guy.
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May 25th, 2015, 09:35 AM | #7 |
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Don't be like that now, there is a ton of stuff going on in that intersection area. He just wasn't 100% at that moment. Being distracted, not looking/planning far enough ahead is sooooooo common. There was sooo much room to steer around the car and speed was not an issue for the most part, but hindsight is always 20/20.
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May 25th, 2015, 10:13 AM | #8 | |
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I do think that his ability is likely way below the bike. That intersection looked soo~ mild compared to what I'm used to. Also - that stopping distance was huge and that bike is amazing. I personally don't think this is about me having the benefit of hindsight. I think this is about a rider who lacked the ability to safely ride on the street; at least on that day at that moment (maybe he was a bit drunk or fatigued? if so he shouldn't have been riding). If I had to put money down, I'd bet on him being very new to riding. Being distracted definitely isn't an excuse. Being distracted on a motorcycle is a major problem that a rider should put right to the top of their priority list in terms of self-work. M13's crash is massive testament to that. Even the most skilled motorcycle rider becomes vulnerable if they're not paying attention. I think it's not going too far to say: focus on your ride or die, when it comes to street riding.
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May 25th, 2015, 10:20 AM | #9 |
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Panic reaction of rider who was not ready to ride in traffic (not enough education and practice of proper reaction to that situation) and moving too fast for conditions (across the most dangerous place for motorcycles: street's intersection). Please read: https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80343 Regarding Physics: Due to inertia, his/her CG and the CG of the bike tend to continue moving forward with the original speed. Front brake and front tire are creating huge friction force pointing aft in order to get rid of the kinetic energy accumulated in those two CG's. Watch his/her feet and legs not clamped onto the bike, allowing her CG move forward making the rear lighter and deprived of stability. As the rear lifts up, the lever (horizontal distance) between CG and front contact patch shrinks making the lift effect easier to happen. Once the weight vector coming from the CG (diagonal line in the schematic below) jumps over the front contact patch there is no more stopping effect. Notice that the rear tire hit the door with double the speed of the CG: more kinetic energy to form that huge dent.
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May 26th, 2015, 05:05 AM | #10 |
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well I was expecting him to crash through the drivers side window. Hope he didn't take to much damage. However, he should had seen that coming and been prepared.
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May 28th, 2015, 07:44 PM | #11 | |
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May 28th, 2015, 08:06 PM | #12 |
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May 28th, 2015, 09:04 PM | #13 |
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@cadd why does that video say "almost" in the name...
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May 28th, 2015, 09:24 PM | #14 |
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No idea! As if that wasn't hard enough??? The dude's helmet went on the roof of the car and rolled down the hood. Ummm, I thought it was hard enough.
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May 28th, 2015, 09:57 PM | #15 |
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That's the funniest crash I've seen in a long time. Normally I only laugh at people trying to stunt on purpose.
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May 29th, 2015, 01:34 AM | #16 | |
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May 29th, 2015, 04:50 AM | #17 |
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I am going to say that both have the probability of running that red light.
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June 2nd, 2015, 07:34 AM | #19 |
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that guy is a foot away from possibly breaking his neck. If he would have started braking a foot later or didn't flip till a foot later he would endo'ed head first into the car hitting smack on top of his helmet.
crazy... why was the car stopped in the middle of an intersection? some drivers
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June 7th, 2015, 08:17 AM | #20 |
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Video seems cropped to hide the traffic lights. He definitely got maximum braking from that front wheel (didn't lose traction)!
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