Pants : Protective and Casual?

Strider · May 17th, 2009, 12:41 PM

I'm looking into something for comfort/casual when I'm just out and about ...
What is anyone take on these, anyone have a pair???

http://www.dragginjeans.com/

Also looking for some new leathers for summer ... advice/recommendations is welcome

kkim · May 17th, 2009, 12:53 PM

I have some Teknic brand jeans with the same design using kevlar.

I use them under my Aerostich 1 piece suit as extra protection, but have never used them as my only riding leg protection. As jeans, they function well and I wear them where ever jeans could be worn.

Saying that, I suppose they would offer more protection as regular jeans, so if you regularly ride with jeans, this is a better option.

An even better option would be to get some dedicated riding pants that can fit over your regular clothes for causal riding and then some serious riding gear for when you expect the speeds and risks to pick up.

Strider · May 17th, 2009, 12:57 PM

I've been using Joe Rocket overpants ( http://www.newenough.com/protective_...overpants.html )
But I'm thinking it's time for a change to better gear
I have no problem changing once I get to work when I'm commuting.

zail · May 17th, 2009, 01:05 PM

I have a pair of the black combat style draggin jeans that I wear in summer for commuting to work.. that way I can wear them at work too without changing... They're pretty good for road rash prevention (not that I have ever tested mine!) but not much good for impact, although I have a pair of Hood Jeans (http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk) with kevlar and Knox armour in them that according to a mate of mine who has crash tested them will do as good a job as armoured leathers!

kkim · May 17th, 2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zail

...although I have a pair of Hood Jeans (http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk) with kevlar and Knox armour in them that according to a mate of mine who has crash tested them will do as good a job as armoured leathers!

the armored areas maybe, but the denim will not stand up to abrasion resistance as well as leather... it's a fact.

Angel-be-Good · May 17th, 2009, 01:19 PM

I'm a fan of Shift's Havoc pants. They're half leather, half textile, and loose enough that they comfortably fit over jeans so I can wear 'em to work and just pull 'em off like a jacket to appear in my normal, non-superhero work attire.

zail · May 17th, 2009, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

the armored areas maybe, but the denim will not stand up to abrasion resistance as well as leather... it's a fact.

The denim won't, true, but the woven aramid (kevlar) areas will... have a look at http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk/html/woven_aramid.html and look at the drag test part.... my friend who crashed and slid in his has also slid down a track in armoured leathers and says of the two he would rather slide in the aramid lined jeans as they seemed to have more resistance and therefore slowed him down whereas the leather was more slidey... personally I don't want to put either to the test....

kkim · May 17th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Then why do most pro riders, who can dictate what they prefer to wear for track protection, opt for leather? If aramid were superior, I'd think every one on the track would be using it.

Flashmonkey · May 17th, 2009, 02:27 PM

Leather by far and away is the be all end all of abrasion protection (especially that japanese cow-hide or whatever RS Tai Chi uses). Kevlar is ok, and i think cordura is up there in terms of textile protection.....but unless the pants, in its entirety, is covered with endless patches of kevlar, the reinforced jeans are really only a step above regular jeans. I have a pair of the Icon strong arm jeans, which only have aramid sewn around the knees....not the greatest protection, and no armor at all....but its better than nothing. That being said, I do believe the "hood" brand denim riding pants offer jeans with armor installed. Draggin' has something similar but its velcro'd in or something. Its worth looking into i think.

Once my budget permits, I'm gonna try and spring for those ultra fancy cordura touring pants that the bmw crowd seems to enjoy. I refuse to wear leather pants on the street....I'm not into the 80's pornstar look

capt_bugaloo · May 17th, 2009, 03:33 PM

An article the OP may be interested in:

Cortech DSX Jeans vs. Carhartt Double-Front Work Dungarees
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...ech-dsx-jeans/

muffinman · May 17th, 2009, 03:47 PM

If money is no object, check out eSquad jeans.. fashionable.. no rhino butt syndrome or grandpa's Levi's look.

The eSquad jeans material is stronger and more abrasion resistant than leather but I don't have the budget to drop $400 on a pair of jeans

mcteague · May 17th, 2009, 05:29 PM

When I bought my bike last Summer I picked up a pair of Cortech DSX denim pants with leather inserts. I'm not really a denim guy and did not like the overall fit. So, I just bought a pair of Fieldsheet Four Season pants. With the liner removed the mesh makes them really cool, plus the light grey color does not soak up the sun as black does. Anyone need a size 32W/34L pair of Cortechs?

Tim

IlBLisSlI · May 17th, 2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zail

I have a pair of the black combat style draggin jeans that I wear in summer for commuting to work.. that way I can wear them at work too without changing... They're pretty good for road rash prevention (not that I have ever tested mine!) but not much good for impact, although I have a pair of Hood Jeans (http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk) with kevlar and Knox armour in them that according to a mate of mine who has crash tested them will do as good a job as armoured leathers!

i have some draggin jeans but i really love the way these other pants look on http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk/ thanks for the link!

TrueFaith · May 18th, 2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

Then why do most pro riders, who can dictate what they prefer to wear for track protection, opt for leather? If aramid were superior, I'd think every one on the track would be using it.

Anybody see Rossi dump it on a wet turn yesterday? The close ups while he was trying to get his bike back up showed some seriously rashed leather on his forearm and back, but he didn't hesitate getting back on the bike. Only leather slides and takes abuse like that and I doubt GP riders would consider wearing anything else.

Syphen · May 18th, 2009, 07:40 AM

I always wear jeans when I ride, unless I'm wearing my one peice teknics suit. I find lately that I'm commuting to work more then getting out and ripping up twisties. Its just easier wearing jeans. That said, they tear through like a knife in butter when you go down. I've seen it first hand. Yikes! I don't think these "riding jeans" are much better then a pear of double walled carrhart work pants.

Cali619 · May 18th, 2009, 07:43 AM

I have alpine stars knee/shin gaurds I can use under my pants. I wear baggy cargo pants so I can use them with whatever I have on. I only use them when Im going on a spirited ride though, not when just commuting around town.

TrueFaith · May 18th, 2009, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syphen

I always wear jeans when I ride, unless I'm wearing my one peice teknics suit. I find lately that I'm commuting to work more then getting out and ripping up twisties. Its just easier wearing jeans. That said, they tear through like a knife in butter when you go down. I've seen it first hand. Yikes! I don't think these "riding jeans" are much better then a pear of double walled carrhart work pants.

The Cortech DMX Denim pants have a full leather seat sewn in and removable CE-approved armor in the knees. That's going to protect you a lot more than a couple of layers of plain denim. If I'm wearing regular jeans I at least wear a pair of EMS knee guards over them to beef up the protection. More people need to protect their knees as that is often the first thing to hit the ground, causes the longest rehabilitation if injured and is the most overlooked part of a rider's body when gearing up.

websniper · May 18th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Check out the Sliders Riding jeans. They have more kevlar coverage than the Draggin jeans and seem to me to be a bit more stylish as well. The price is right too. I use the A*'s armor underneath....

http://www.compacc.com/p.cfm/c/1001002/p/19235

They also have cargos and flat front chinos(both next on my list) for business casual. I could where these with a polo straight to my job. They also use genuine DuPont Kevlar.

websniper · May 18th, 2009, 09:30 AM

I just checked out the site for those hood jeans. They have even more Kevlar than the sliders. I may have to look into a pair of those! I see they offer liners too...

CC Cowboy · May 18th, 2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IlBLisSlI

i have some draggin jeans but i really love the way these other pants look on http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk/ thanks for the link!

I looked at this site and the guy in the turn is on a Ninja 250. Is that why you like these pants? I also noticed the guy crashing of the left is on a completely straight road.

I also noticed you are from Daytona. I have heard of this place. Are you beachside?

Does hitting a cow equate to crashing with leather?

IlBLisSlI · May 18th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I looked at this site and the guy in the turn is on a Ninja 250. Is that why you like these pants? I also noticed the guy crashing of the left is on a completely straight road.

I also noticed you are from Daytona. I have heard of this place. Are you beachside?

Does hitting a cow equate to crashing with leather?

nah i just like the pants because they look like something i can wear to work.

and yeah i'm from the daytona area (actually a suburb that people out of the area wouldn't recognize so its just easier to tell them i live in daytona). i don't live on the beach but i'm close enough to it that i can get there in 20 min or so.

and yes hitting the cow does qualify as crashing with leather. i swear if i had hit anything else at 40mph head on like i did i'd probably be dead. cows are nice and squishy

CC Cowboy · May 18th, 2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IlBLisSlI

and yes hitting the cow does qualify as crashing with leather. i swear if i had hit anything else at 40mph head on like i did i'd probably be dead. cows are nice and squishy

Sounds like an utter disaster.

Where are the cows around Daytona? Deltona, Deland, Lake Helen?

IlBLisSlI · May 18th, 2009, 11:59 AM

yep i was in deltona on lake hellen osteen road

CC Cowboy · May 19th, 2009, 07:16 AM

So was the cow in the road or you in the pasture?

I've been on that road before. I'll starting looking out for cows. I'm usually looking out for cowgirls!

IlBLisSlI · May 19th, 2009, 07:23 AM

lol i don't often make it a point to ride my 250 back into the woods and into some dude's pasture

CC Cowboy · May 19th, 2009, 07:45 AM

What were headed to Cassadaga to get your fortune told?

I ride a nice loop that takes me from Daytona through some nice roads in Deland (Marsh Rd Reynolds Rd) to De Leon Springs. Then Audubon Rd to Grand Ave through Glenwood to W Bereford Ave to Fatio Rd (back in Deland) to McGregor. Then (either over to Lake Helen) or down 17-92 to Enterprise Rd. Then I get on Lake Shore Dr to Enterprise Osteen Rd to Maytown Rd almost to Oakhill. I go left on Beacon Light Rd and head north to Volco, cut through a neighborhood (in Edgewater) and get on Old Mission Rd towards New Smyrna. I go left on Glencoe and left on Pioneer and then right on Turnbull Bay. I go north of the New Smyrna airport and onto RT 1 and back to Daytona. All killer roads and hardly any traffic ever.

It takes a few hours and has great turns, hills, and hardly any cows.

When you get another bike I'll take you through the course (no crashing though).

IlBLisSlI · May 19th, 2009, 08:01 AM

nah not headed to cassadaga. unfortunately i live right next to friendship elementary school (near the corner of lake hellen osteen and elkham)

i'll let you know when i get the new bike. i'd like to see your loop

Daeldren · May 19th, 2009, 08:11 AM

I need to pick up a pair of riding pants, right now I'm just using some Knee armor that I use with my regular jeans. My biggest problem is getting a pair of pants that actually fit me I have a 28" waist with a 28" inseam. I have also been thinking of just saving up and getting a custom 2-piece or 1-piece done. Oh and has anyone checked out some of the new textile sport riding pants with spots for knee sliders?

http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...55014-001-48_G

Daeldren · May 19th, 2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Cortech DSX Jeans vs. Carhartt Double-Front Work Dungarees

I actually have 2 almost new pairs of those Carhartt, I may start wearing them instead and just use armor underneath as the article says, good find.

Nemy · May 19th, 2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strider

I'm looking into something for comfort/casual when I'm just out and about ...
What is anyone take on these, anyone have a pair???

http://www.dragginjeans.com/

Also looking for some new leathers for summer ... advice/recommendations is welcome

Picked up a pair of these last month and I like them. If you want more impact protection, though, you can still pick up the knox or sas-tech knee inserts. But definitely better than regular jeans and there have been nothing but good reviews and crash tests - that's how I was sold.

Strider · May 19th, 2009, 02:19 PM

Thanks to everyone for the recs and advise

I think I may end up with several pair of pants before this is over!

May 17th, 2009, 12:41 PM	#1
Strider Back on the Black! Name: Alan Location: Gastonia, North Carolina Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 (Black) Posts: 831	Pants : Protective and Casual? I'm looking into something for comfort/casual when I'm just out and about ... What is anyone take on these, anyone have a pair??? http://www.dragginjeans.com/ Also looking for some new leathers for summer ... advice/recommendations is welcome

May 17th, 2009, 01:05 PM	#4
zail ninjette.org member Name: zail Location: Bristol, UK Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250r Posts: 156	I have a pair of the black combat style draggin jeans that I wear in summer for commuting to work.. that way I can wear them at work too without changing... They're pretty good for road rash prevention (not that I have ever tested mine!) but not much good for impact, although I have a pair of Hood Jeans (http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk) with kevlar and Knox armour in them that according to a mate of mine who has crash tested them will do as good a job as armoured leathers! __________________________________________________ Bristol, UK - R&G Tail Tidy, Exhaust Hanger, Bar ends & Crash Protectors, Skidmarx Hugger & Double Bubble, SW motech mirror extenders, Scorpion Exhaust, Cycle Control levers & Rearset Adjusters

May 17th, 2009, 01:19 PM	#6
Angel-be-Good ninjette.org guru Name: Ryan Location: San Francisco Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '11 Street Triple R Posts: 337	I'm a fan of Shift's Havoc pants. They're half leather, half textile, and loose enough that they comfortably fit over jeans so I can wear 'em to work and just pull 'em off like a jacket to appear in my normal, non-superhero work attire. __________________________________________________ The Sunday Best \| Current mileage: 50,000

May 17th, 2009, 03:33 PM	#10
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	An article the OP may be interested in: Cortech DSX Jeans vs. Carhartt Double-Front Work Dungarees http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...ech-dsx-jeans/ __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

May 18th, 2009, 07:40 AM	#15
Syphen Some weird Canuck! Name: Greg Location: Ontario - Canada Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '92 CBR250RR "Babyblade", 2008 Ninja 250R, 2001 CBR600F4i Posts: 209	I always wear jeans when I ride, unless I'm wearing my one peice teknics suit. I find lately that I'm commuting to work more then getting out and ripping up twisties. Its just easier wearing jeans. That said, they tear through like a knife in butter when you go down. I've seen it first hand. Yikes! I don't think these "riding jeans" are much better then a pear of double walled carrhart work pants. __________________________________________________ I still like CBR's more Just kidding.

May 17th, 2009, 12:53 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I have some Teknic brand jeans with the same design using kevlar. I use them under my Aerostich 1 piece suit as extra protection, but have never used them as my only riding leg protection. As jeans, they function well and I wear them where ever jeans could be worn. Saying that, I suppose they would offer more protection as regular jeans, so if you regularly ride with jeans, this is a better option. An even better option would be to get some dedicated riding pants that can fit over your regular clothes for causal riding and then some serious riding gear for when you expect the speeds and risks to pick up.

May 17th, 2009, 12:57 PM	#3
Strider Back on the Black! Name: Alan Location: Gastonia, North Carolina Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 (Black) Posts: 831	I've been using Joe Rocket overpants ( http://www.newenough.com/protective_...overpants.html ) But I'm thinking it's time for a change to better gear I have no problem changing once I get to work when I'm commuting.

May 17th, 2009, 02:13 PM	#8
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Then why do most pro riders, who can dictate what they prefer to wear for track protection, opt for leather? If aramid were superior, I'd think every one on the track would be using it.

May 17th, 2009, 02:27 PM	#9
Flashmonkey Professional belly dancer Name: James Location: Toronto Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 1992 GSX-R 750 Posts: A lot.	Leather by far and away is the be all end all of abrasion protection (especially that japanese cow-hide or whatever RS Tai Chi uses). Kevlar is ok, and i think cordura is up there in terms of textile protection.....but unless the pants, in its entirety, is covered with endless patches of kevlar, the reinforced jeans are really only a step above regular jeans. I have a pair of the Icon strong arm jeans, which only have aramid sewn around the knees....not the greatest protection, and no armor at all....but its better than nothing. That being said, I do believe the "hood" brand denim riding pants offer jeans with armor installed. Draggin' has something similar but its velcro'd in or something. Its worth looking into i think. Once my budget permits, I'm gonna try and spring for those ultra fancy cordura touring pants that the bmw crowd seems to enjoy. I refuse to wear leather pants on the street....I'm not into the 80's pornstar look

May 17th, 2009, 03:47 PM	#11
muffinman ninjette.org guru Name: Arthur Location: USA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R (sold), '05 ZX6R / 636 Posts: 355	If money is no object, check out eSquad jeans.. fashionable.. no rhino butt syndrome or grandpa's Levi's look. The eSquad jeans material is stronger and more abrasion resistant than leather but I don't have the budget to drop $400 on a pair of jeans

May 18th, 2009, 07:43 AM	#16
Cali619 Giggity Giggity Name: Ryam Location: San Diego Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250R aka Hiryu Posts: 481	I have alpine stars knee/shin gaurds I can use under my pants. I wear baggy cargo pants so I can use them with whatever I have on. I only use them when Im going on a spirited ride though, not when just commuting around town. __________________________________________________ Facebook DY Fender chop, Danmoto CB slip-on w/baffle, Airbox removed, Kleen-air removed, shimmed needles, Mikuni #117.5 Main jets, K&N RU-1822 air filter pods

May 18th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#18
websniper New rider Name: Jarrod Location: Ephrata, PA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250 Posts: 42	Denim Option Check out the Sliders Riding jeans. They have more kevlar coverage than the Draggin jeans and seem to me to be a bit more stylish as well. The price is right too. I use the A*'s armor underneath.... http://www.compacc.com/p.cfm/c/1001002/p/19235 They also have cargos and flat front chinos(both next on my list) for business casual. I could where these with a polo straight to my job. They also use genuine DuPont Kevlar.

May 18th, 2009, 09:30 AM	#19
websniper New rider Name: Jarrod Location: Ephrata, PA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250 Posts: 42	I just checked out the site for those hood jeans. They have even more Kevlar than the sliders. I may have to look into a pair of those! I see they offer liners too...

May 18th, 2009, 11:59 AM	#23
IlBLisSlI i'm a cow killer Name: Drew Location: Daytona FL Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250r Posts: 142	yep i was in deltona on lake hellen osteen road

May 19th, 2009, 07:16 AM	#24
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	So was the cow in the road or you in the pasture? I've been on that road before. I'll starting looking out for cows. I'm usually looking out for cowgirls! __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

May 19th, 2009, 07:23 AM	#25
IlBLisSlI i'm a cow killer Name: Drew Location: Daytona FL Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250r Posts: 142	lol i don't often make it a point to ride my 250 back into the woods and into some dude's pasture

May 19th, 2009, 07:45 AM	#26
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	What were headed to Cassadaga to get your fortune told? I ride a nice loop that takes me from Daytona through some nice roads in Deland (Marsh Rd Reynolds Rd) to De Leon Springs. Then Audubon Rd to Grand Ave through Glenwood to W Bereford Ave to Fatio Rd (back in Deland) to McGregor. Then (either over to Lake Helen) or down 17-92 to Enterprise Rd. Then I get on Lake Shore Dr to Enterprise Osteen Rd to Maytown Rd almost to Oakhill. I go left on Beacon Light Rd and head north to Volco, cut through a neighborhood (in Edgewater) and get on Old Mission Rd towards New Smyrna. I go left on Glencoe and left on Pioneer and then right on Turnbull Bay. I go north of the New Smyrna airport and onto RT 1 and back to Daytona. All killer roads and hardly any traffic ever. It takes a few hours and has great turns, hills, and hardly any cows. When you get another bike I'll take you through the course (no crashing though). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

May 19th, 2009, 08:01 AM	#27
IlBLisSlI i'm a cow killer Name: Drew Location: Daytona FL Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250r Posts: 142	nah not headed to cassadaga. unfortunately i live right next to friendship elementary school (near the corner of lake hellen osteen and elkham) i'll let you know when i get the new bike. i'd like to see your loop

May 19th, 2009, 08:11 AM	#28
Daeldren two wheel addict Name: Kenneth Location: Simpsonville, SC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 94 xlh 883, 1984 kawi gpz money pit Posts: 556	I need to pick up a pair of riding pants, right now I'm just using some Knee armor that I use with my regular jeans. My biggest problem is getting a pair of pants that actually fit me I have a 28" waist with a 28" inseam. I have also been thinking of just saving up and getting a custom 2-piece or 1-piece done. Oh and has anyone checked out some of the new textile sport riding pants with spots for knee sliders? http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...55014-001-48_G

May 19th, 2009, 02:19 PM	#31
Strider Back on the Black! Name: Alan Location: Gastonia, North Carolina Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 (Black) Posts: 831	Thanks to everyone for the recs and advise I think I may end up with several pair of pants before this is over!

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