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June 5th, 2012, 08:41 PM | #82 | |
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[(but don't quote me on it, i'm not really a tech-head (i wish...)] after i got all into motorcycles, what was surprising and somewhat depressing for me to find out was the fact that despite being a sipper, more often than not, motorcycles release more pollutants into the air compared to cars.
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June 5th, 2012, 09:18 PM | #83 | |
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It does a great job. I can barely smell my exhaust on the CBR. The bike was designed to pass emissions all over the world. I believe the FI Ninja also passes emissions. Bike emissions in the US aren't as tough so the carb'ed Ninjette can still be sold, though the bike is jetted lean. The newgens still don't blast out as much noxious exhaust as the pregens though. |
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June 5th, 2012, 09:49 PM | #84 |
is stunning! ;)
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Hehe I was out on a chippie run yesterday evening. One of the boys was new and had a CBR250R, he let me have a go of it in an empty car park!
This was good timing! I actually really liked it, looked fantastic in person (I still want black wheels on it) and I love how much stronger it pulls from low revs, makes the bike feel lighter. As for the height, I really didn't notice much diffference. Then again I am 6ft, so their both...nimble HE CALLED HIS CIBBER TOO!!! Oh and baby blade was a nickname given to the CBR400R and the CBR250RR, works just as well though, might get some stick for it in front of the real blades though :P |
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June 6th, 2012, 06:59 AM | #86 | |
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June 6th, 2012, 08:35 AM | #87 |
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sorry i forgot to ask this w/ my previous quote, but how's the stock exhaust sound compared to the ninjette in loudness and pitch, and how blasphemous would it be to slap it on a ninjette? personally, it would seem like a worthy sacrifice in design if in return the ninjette was quieter/lower in pitch (like growling or purring vs screaming x_x) and spewed out less pollutants. would it even fit/be compatible? lawl sorry, idk how most mods work... /newb.
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June 6th, 2012, 08:39 AM | #88 |
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When it is idling it is defintely louder than the Ninjette. I don't know about when actually riding because the noise they make is very different sounding and I have earplugs on. The Ninjette is pretty quiet. People couldn't even hear my coming into the garage in the next room over. I don't think there's any way to actually put the CBR's exhaust on it anyways.
The Ninjette will spew more pollutants anyways because it is carbed. |
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June 6th, 2012, 08:42 AM | #89 |
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d'aww. okay, thanks
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June 6th, 2012, 08:44 AM | #90 |
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If you are looking for something primarily to reduce emissions and gas usage go for the CBR.
It's definitely better in that area. |
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June 6th, 2012, 09:34 AM | #91 |
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/aghast: how dare you appeal to my inner tree-hugger.
oh, how you tempt me, sir.
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June 7th, 2012, 01:26 PM | #92 |
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Well I can't help but pass along info on a bike that I enjoy.
Normally I am averaging 70MPG, but I have gotten a tank in the 90s with some hypermiling techniques. Can probably be even better with a sprocket change. |
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June 7th, 2012, 03:24 PM | #94 |
So, where's the reverse?
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Emissions are compared on a per vehicle and per mile basis. Motos consume less fuel and emit less CO2 compared to cars but emit far more CO, hydrocarbons and nitrous oxides. We might not trust the EPA or governments but it's hard to argue against MythBusters .
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June 7th, 2012, 03:29 PM | #95 |
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What did Mythbusters test?
They should test a bike that passed emissons overseas. I'm pretty sure my CBR emits less than whatever they tested. |
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June 7th, 2012, 03:57 PM | #97 |
So, where's the reverse?
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No doubt that motorcycles that meet Euro 3 emission standards emit far less harmful gases compared to motos meeting only older EPA standards. There's talk that future Euro 4 and 5 standards will cap emissions from small displacement motorcycles and scooters to be in line with current hybrid vehicles.
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June 7th, 2012, 04:28 PM | #99 |
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Maybe it should be a CareBeaR
[/QUOTE] PERFECT!!!!!!! LOL |
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June 7th, 2012, 07:11 PM | #100 | |
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but this has all been very informative. & here's to hoping that in the near future, and perhaps w/ some "encouragement" by the gov'ts, all motorcycles will be better than cars on emissions in all aspects. all the more reason to have/get one but for now i guess i should be glad we're still loads ahead of cars in most aspects anyways.
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June 7th, 2012, 08:41 PM | #101 |
So, where's the reverse?
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I agree that MythBusters is more entertainment than science. Their results are at the very least thought provoking just as quoted. That's not a bad thing. Discussing the overall environmental impact and benefit of motorcycles goes beyond the scope and aim of their experiment. I guess the premise of the show was not so much to prove that all motorcycles emit more harmful gases than cars but to disprove the belief that all motorcycles emit less than cars and call it a myth.
There was a fourth motorcycle they used to test and attempt if they could make it more aerodynamic and more fuel efficient. I don't know the exact model or year but it was a Yamaha 250cc with FI and a cat. Even though they succeeded in making it more aerodynamic and fuel efficient, they found that it still emitted more CO, hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxide than the cars. All the emissions data was analysed by an emissions expert at the University of California for what it's worth. I cannot remember exactly the other motorcycles they tested but I'd assume that they fall under the previous EPA emission requirements which were much more lax compared to those imposed on passenger vehicles of the same era. Pollution reducing technology such as catalytic converters and fuel injection are not as common in motorcycles as they are in cars produced under those same standards. Good news, is that with stricter standards, over time we should have a scenario where all motorcycles on the road emit far more less pollution than gas powered cars. |
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June 7th, 2012, 08:49 PM | #102 |
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Well said! And I can totally get behind that
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June 9th, 2012, 11:28 AM | #103 | |
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NO. I dont want to be riding something that weighs in like a goldwing just to pass emissions regs. Emission regs have killed off almost all 2 stroke bikes (bar the RS125 in europe), if they keep pushing they'll kill off all non electric bikes, and who wants to spend 48 hours charging a bike for an hour's run What kind of bell-end wants more government restrictions? |
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June 9th, 2012, 11:41 AM | #105 | |
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Until then why would anyone want something that takes an overnight charge to do a short range run, and if it runs out you're stranded for hours (if you are anywhere near a power point)? |
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June 9th, 2012, 12:16 PM | #106 |
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^ I want one! Very low maintenance, no warm up, instant access to full power, no gas station visits (just plug it when you get home), crazy cheap energy cost, automatically takes advantage of clean upgrades to our energy grid, interesting new technology, potential to generate your own electricity and use it to power your own transport, greater net efficiency than any ICE bike... my next motorcycle! Read the specs on a real electric bike, instead of listening to top gear shite (corny rhyme intended ).
I plan to keep my ninjette for long distance and weekend riding (I love the feeling of shifting gears and lots of ebikes don't have gears). I'll use the ebike for everything else: commuting, town runs, etc |
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June 9th, 2012, 03:21 PM | #107 |
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But if it takes more than the life of the bike to pay for itself, then it's not going to be worth it for me.
That initial price is a lot to swallow. As soon as you get out of the city and into the burbs or on the highway the bike will lose its juice too fast for my tastes. Currently I just have one do-it-all vehicle. |
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June 9th, 2012, 05:50 PM | #108 | |
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Electric vehicles are stupid. The end! What is going to happen when all those batteries are at the end of their useful life? Can you tell me that they will not pose a threat to the environment? Until then I will enjoy the sights, sounds, and smells of my internal combustion engine. |
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June 11th, 2012, 10:02 PM | #109 |
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Track Mods
Ive seen a couple of folks mention aftermarket stuff and lack there of
As far as track there are some tid bits. ON my Cibber I have BT-003RS Race tech Front suspension rebuild. Wood craft clips ons. Akrapovic exhaust, Bazzaz Z-fi, Yosh frame sliders and rear sets. Speigler steel braided lines. -1+1 driven aluminum sprockets. sharkskins. Ohlins rear shock next on the horizon. As far as street its been a bit limited but I saw chinese aftermarket fairings the other day so thats good. |
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June 13th, 2012, 12:55 PM | #111 |
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If the CBR250R looked as good as, and has been around as long as the Ninja 250r, I'd definitely get one. No contest.
Kawi just needs to do a couple of things for the Ninjette: 1. Make the US version fuel injected 2. For god's sake, have an instrument panel that looks as great as the CBR's 3. Try to sell it for a bit cheaper (CBR250R is about $400 cheaper without ABS)
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June 13th, 2012, 01:01 PM | #112 |
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^ I like the instrument panel. The price seems reasonable to me too considering how much awesome is crammed into this lil ninja.
ABS, I would like... not linked brakes though. |
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June 13th, 2012, 01:20 PM | #113 | |
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I'm consistently getting 75mpg and I twist the throttle as much as I need to make 'good progress'. |
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June 13th, 2012, 04:14 PM | #114 |
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The one thing about the CBR, the low-end just feels so good when you're in the city or in traffic.
Smooth and effortless. |
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June 14th, 2012, 09:48 PM | #115 | |
is stunning! ;)
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They replaced it with the RS4 125, it's a 4-stroke! |
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June 15th, 2012, 02:20 PM | #116 | |
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£100 in the difference (4 stroke is cheaper) Aprilia are known for dodgy electrics, but other than that they're a great little bike, the Italians know how to style their machines. http://uk.aprilia.com/en-GB/Model/29.../Overview.aspx |
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June 16th, 2012, 05:20 AM | #117 | |
is stunning! ;)
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They said they replaced the two-stroke with a four-stroke because it needed to meet the new Euro emission regulations. So wouldn't that mean it couldn't be sold anywhere in Europe? But your right, they obviously still sell it somewhere because it's still on their website? I wouldn't worry about the electrics, new Aprillias and Ducatis are now up there with the best of them. They really stepped their game up with the RSV4 and Panigale. |
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June 16th, 2012, 07:52 AM | #118 |
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June 16th, 2012, 07:55 AM | #119 | |
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June 16th, 2012, 07:59 AM | #120 |
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Car vs. Bike. The CBR250R would have been much better than the Yamaha. The cat is huge and I don't know if the Yamaha had an O2 sensor. And most people riding the Honda get around 70 mpgUS. Less gas in, less emissions out.
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