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Old March 18th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #1
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Bike won't start

I have tried everything to start my bike which has been away for about 3 months for winter storage. Also when I put my bike in first gear im finding it hard to move the bike. Any ideas?
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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:01 PM   #2
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More info generally helps such as low battery, starter clicking, spark plugs health, etc. Are you trying to move the bike to push start it since it's low battery? You should be moving the bike while in neutral, not first. Most likely it's clogged as the link will point out since it's been 3 months.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #3
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I have tried everything to start my bike which has been away for about 3 months for winter storage.
obviously you've not tried everything as you still haven't been able to start it.

we need more info as to what it's doing/not doing to help you isolate the problem. more info, please.

put the bike in neutral... much easier to move the bike around.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 09:50 PM   #4
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Ya I have charged the battery. I was trying to start it in neutral and it wouldnt so I thought it give it a go to jump start thats when I realized first gear was kind of sticking like there was friction or something but it moves perfectly fine in neutral. I also changed the oil, I put fuel stabilizer but I have a feeling I may have put to much could this be the reason?
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Old March 18th, 2011, 10:09 PM   #5
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what exactly is your starting procedure?
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Old March 18th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #6
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what exactly is your starting procedure?
Choke on, kickstand up hit the starter.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 11:09 PM   #7
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Choke on, kickstand up hit the starter.
Key position? Ignition switch?
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Old March 18th, 2011, 11:15 PM   #8
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Key position? Ignition switch?
aha ya thought that was kind of obvious so left that part out
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Is it cranking? Give us every little detail even if you think it's obvious.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #10
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Choke on, kickstand up hit the starter.
...and then what happens?
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Old March 19th, 2011, 09:46 AM   #11
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Ya there very first time I try it cranks and sounds like its about to start but then after that it just making that clicking noise.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 12:48 PM   #12
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the clicking noise happens when you run down the battery from over use. the battery needs to be fully recharged before continuing.

3 months in storage... have you drained the old gas and refilled with fresh gas, yet? I recommend you add some seafoam to the gas to help clean out your fuel system. I also suggest draining the carbs bowls of fuel, before you continue, to remove wherever crud that might have collected there over those months.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 01:53 PM   #13
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Ya already charged it. Went to the shop and asked for some help and they recommended draining carbs which I did or try a new spark plug but I dont think that will solve the problem but Ill give it a try.

I have not yet drained the old gas whats the quickest way? I will also try picking up seafoam for the gas and let you know how that works. thanks for your help hopefully one of these will do it dying to get out and ride!!
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Old March 19th, 2011, 02:01 PM   #14
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if you've already drained the carbs, they are empty at this point and maybe that's why the bike is hard to start now. On the pregens, to get the petcock to flow fuel, you need to apply a vacuum source to the small vacuum tube that runs to the back of the petcock. I always recommend to place a piece of vacuum tube to the back of the petcock and gently suck on the tube until the fuel starts flowing or you can use a vacuum tool like a mityvac to apply the needed vacuum.

try my vacuum tube trick to get the carbs filled back up, then try starting the bike. Otherwise, it takes a lot of cranking to get enough fuel to flow to refill the carb bowls.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #16
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Kill button?
bike doesn't turn over at all if the kill switch is engaged.

as in, push start button--- silence.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 08:14 AM   #17
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I think he needs to pull the carbs and clean the pilot jets. I know this sounds like an extreme solution, but my '08 would not start this season after charging the battery, draining the float bowls, new gas in the tank and a Seafoam treatment. When I finally pulled the carbs and removed the pilot jets, I was surprised to see that they were completely clogged, even though the gas in the bowls wasn't all that bad.

You can safely clean the pilots with a strand of fine copper wire unwound from some stranded cable (and some solvent) if they are stubborn. Don't force it though, if it won't go, find a finer piece of wire.

Incidentally, I shimmed my needles when I put it all back together (one washer each, a set found in my extensive collection), and I'm pleased to report that the bike is much less cold blooded than before. I can take it off choke much sooner, with no stumbling or hesitation, but I can't say I feel much difference otherwise.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 12:45 PM   #18
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Ya I was hoping it wouldnt come to that but I guess theres not other choice. Let you know how things go.
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if you think that's what you need to do...
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Old March 21st, 2011, 01:51 PM   #20
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bike doesn't turn over at all if the kill switch is engaged.

as in, push start button--- silence.
Thats whats different on the honda, if key is on but kill switch is engaged the bike still cranks. Noticed that once, remembered it forever.
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Ya there very first time I try it cranks and sounds like its about to start but then after that it just making that clicking noise.
Are you positive the battery is good? May have multiple issues here but running the starter once wouldn't run the battery down to just the solenoid click. Bad batteries can take a charge (and seem charged) but lose the charge instantly. I'd also bet the carbs are gummed...
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