Front brake light not working, help please.

miks · March 28th, 2010, 11:30 PM

Hey all,

Didn't really want to make a new thread but I found no info about this topic, checked the manual and it says go to an Authorised Kawasaki Dealer...

Don't really want to do that .. so here I am asking the geniuses of Ninjette.org.

Heres the story, my bike has been down on the right hand side, this may or may not have contributed to my front brake light not working. When I apply the front brake, the brake light does not work, thats the problem. I still have my rear brake light to warn people (I always use my rear brakes), so I've been living with that for the last month or two but I would like the functionality of my front brake light.

So, if anyone knows how to adjust/fix/solve this problem of mine, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

kkim · March 29th, 2010, 12:57 AM

http://www.mickeywebpages.com/users/...e_Dia_v1.1.gif

short the wires that go to the brake switch and see if the rear brake light works. if it does, you have a switch problem. if it doesn't, you have a wiring problem.

do you have a service manual?

miks · March 29th, 2010, 02:51 AM

That diagram was one of the hardest things I've had to try read and figure out what it meant ... (give me a few more months and it'll be a breeze, just started my Mechanical Engineering course in Uni

)

But yeah, "short the wires", I have no idea what that means. I do know my rear brake light works when I press the rear brakes, thats about it ... And I do have a service manual (thanks to you).

I never knew it was going to be this hard, but if you, or anybody else could explain it in layman's terms that would be much appreciated. Sorry to be such a hassle mate.

ibsrp · March 29th, 2010, 03:24 AM

Check your wires inside the front right side of the fairing. I had the same problem Saturday and that's what it turned out to be. I had loosened the fairing to install a headlight modulator and the turn signal wire connections came apart. A very simple fix.

adouglas · March 29th, 2010, 04:38 AM

That's funny, my bike only has a brake light in the back.

g21-30 · March 29th, 2010, 04:50 AM

Mike,

In the picture below, the front brake switch is item #7 and is located on the bottom of the front master cylinder (rectangular thing) on right handlebar. There are 2 wires attached to it. In your case, the 2 wires probably were disconnected when the bike went down. Check and see! If they are disconnected, then reconnect them. If the wires are still connected, then disconnect them and take an open paperclip and stick in each end of the 2 wires, thus connecting them together.

Let us know your results.

miks · March 29th, 2010, 11:40 PM

Thanks fellas, will suss it out when I do my 6000km service and take off the RHS fairing. Thanks heaps!

kkim · March 29th, 2010, 11:45 PM

the switch is right there on your right handlebar. are the wires connected to the switch?

miks · March 29th, 2010, 11:54 PM

Jesus, and here I am over-thinking things, thinking that it was a big mission. Ends up the switches aren't connecting, bit hard trying to connect them though, but easy fix nonetheless.

EDIT: Got them connected, everything is perfect. Thanks heaps for the help and the patience

kkim · March 30th, 2010, 12:43 AM

cool

g21-30 · March 30th, 2010, 05:24 AM

Another satisfied customer! Kelly, did you get your pay raise from Alex?

M-Oorb · March 30th, 2010, 05:37 AM

This should be what this forum is all about...

dave hendy · April 5th, 2010, 12:25 PM

My wifes 08 250r had to have a new front rear brake lamp switch last summer for this problem. I got it working but it went again and dealer changed it under warrenty.

MysterioX · May 4th, 2010, 05:32 PM

I'm about to wire a taillight modulator and ran into a bit of a problem.
Does anyone know which taillight wire does what? Is Red for brakes and Blue for taillight or the other way around? Can't tell from the diagram.

-
Strange thing is, on the overall diagram (pg. 333 of the maintainance manual, for those of you who got it) there are three wires going in. But on page 375 (same manual) there are only two wires: Red and Ground.

kevlar250 · May 5th, 2010, 06:12 PM

Blue or the other side of the connector, blue/red =brakes, red = tail bk/y =ground

Buffalony · May 7th, 2010, 11:14 PM

WAAAAIITT A MIN. WTF is a front brake light. Educate me please

miks · May 8th, 2010, 12:22 AM

oops lol, what I meant and what most people got was the front brake triggering the rear brake light.

Buffalony · May 8th, 2010, 12:31 AM

lol.got it now. at first I thought this was a delayed April fools. haha.
Interesting problem now that i understand. one more thing I'll keep an eye out for now.thanks

Godzilla35 · October 4th, 2010, 02:31 AM

hey, sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have the same problem and the previous owner laid it down on the right side as well...

I tried pressing them in and from the side / angles, and the brake light actually works. But I tried to take the wire connections out and push them in, thinking they were just loose, but no luck. It only works if I push it in, in certain angles. Is it a problem with the wiring or the brake switch? Should I just take the bike in?

poo poo · October 5th, 2010, 03:21 PM

And ask the mechanics to explain what they did, so you can take care of it next time....l

Godzilla35 · October 5th, 2010, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poo poo

And ask the mechanics to explain what they did, so you can take care of it next time....l

i hate doing that... =[

March 28th, 2010, 11:30 PM	#1
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	Front brake light not working, help please. Hey all, Didn't really want to make a new thread but I found no info about this topic, checked the manual and it says go to an Authorised Kawasaki Dealer... Don't really want to do that .. so here I am asking the geniuses of Ninjette.org. Heres the story, my bike has been down on the right hand side, this may or may not have contributed to my front brake light not working. When I apply the front brake, the brake light does not work, thats the problem. I still have my rear brake light to warn people (I always use my rear brakes), so I've been living with that for the last month or two but I would like the functionality of my front brake light. So, if anyone knows how to adjust/fix/solve this problem of mine, it would be much appreciated. Thanks __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

March 29th, 2010, 02:51 AM	#3
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	That diagram was one of the hardest things I've had to try read and figure out what it meant ... (give me a few more months and it'll be a breeze, just started my Mechanical Engineering course in Uni ) But yeah, "short the wires", I have no idea what that means. I do know my rear brake light works when I press the rear brakes, thats about it ... And I do have a service manual (thanks to you). I never knew it was going to be this hard, but if you, or anybody else could explain it in layman's terms that would be much appreciated. Sorry to be such a hassle mate. __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

March 29th, 2010, 11:54 PM	#9
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	Jesus, and here I am over-thinking things, thinking that it was a big mission. Ends up the switches aren't connecting, bit hard trying to connect them though, but easy fix nonetheless. EDIT: Got them connected, everything is perfect. Thanks heaps for the help and the patience __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

March 30th, 2010, 05:37 AM	#12
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	This should be what this forum is all about... __________________________________________________ Pictures of my ninjette plus...

May 7th, 2010, 11:14 PM	#16
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	WAAAAIITT A MIN. WTF is a front brake light. Educate me please __________________________________________________

March 29th, 2010, 12:57 AM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	http://www.mickeywebpages.com/users/...e_Dia_v1.1.gif short the wires that go to the brake switch and see if the rear brake light works. if it does, you have a switch problem. if it doesn't, you have a wiring problem. do you have a service manual?

March 29th, 2010, 03:24 AM	#4
ibsrp ninjette.org newbie Name: Steve Location: Alabama Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 EX250 Ninja Posts: 8	Check your wires inside the front right side of the fairing. I had the same problem Saturday and that's what it turned out to be. I had loosened the fairing to install a headlight modulator and the turn signal wire connections came apart. A very simple fix.

March 29th, 2010, 04:38 AM	#5
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	That's funny, my bike only has a brake light in the back.

March 29th, 2010, 04:50 AM	#6
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Mike, In the picture below, the front brake switch is item #7 and is located on the bottom of the front master cylinder (rectangular thing) on right handlebar. There are 2 wires attached to it. In your case, the 2 wires probably were disconnected when the bike went down. Check and see! If they are disconnected, then reconnect them. If the wires are still connected, then disconnect them and take an open paperclip and stick in each end of the 2 wires, thus connecting them together. Let us know your results.

March 29th, 2010, 11:40 PM	#7
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	Thanks fellas, will suss it out when I do my 6000km service and take off the RHS fairing. Thanks heaps! __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

March 29th, 2010, 11:45 PM	#8
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	the switch is right there on your right handlebar. are the wires connected to the switch?

March 30th, 2010, 12:43 AM	#10
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	cool

March 30th, 2010, 05:24 AM	#11
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Another satisfied customer! Kelly, did you get your pay raise from Alex?

April 5th, 2010, 12:25 PM	#13
dave hendy ninjette.org member Name: Dave Location: Berkshire UK Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 18	My wifes 08 250r had to have a new front rear brake lamp switch last summer for this problem. I got it working but it went again and dealer changed it under warrenty.

May 4th, 2010, 05:32 PM	#14
MysterioX ninjette.org member Name: John Location: GTA Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250 Ninja Posts: 24	I'm about to wire a taillight modulator and ran into a bit of a problem. Does anyone know which taillight wire does what? Is Red for brakes and Blue for taillight or the other way around? Can't tell from the diagram. - Strange thing is, on the overall diagram (pg. 333 of the maintainance manual, for those of you who got it) there are three wires going in. But on page 375 (same manual) there are only two wires: Red and Ground.

May 5th, 2010, 06:12 PM	#15
kevlar250 ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: MN Metro Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): '94 Vulcan 1500, '06 Katana 600, '08 FZ1 Posts: 133	Blue or the other side of the connector, blue/red =brakes, red = tail bk/y =ground

May 8th, 2010, 12:22 AM	#17
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	oops lol, what I meant and what most people got was the front brake triggering the rear brake light. __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

May 8th, 2010, 12:31 AM	#18
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	lol.got it now. at first I thought this was a delayed April fools. haha. Interesting problem now that i understand. one more thing I'll keep an eye out for now.thanks __________________________________________________

October 4th, 2010, 02:31 AM	#19
Godzilla35 ninjette.org member Name: poop Location: San Diego, California Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): Nike Hyperdunks Posts: 116	hey, sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have the same problem and the previous owner laid it down on the right side as well... I tried pressing them in and from the side / angles, and the brake light actually works. But I tried to take the wire connections out and push them in, thinking they were just loose, but no luck. It only works if I push it in, in certain angles. Is it a problem with the wiring or the brake switch? Should I just take the bike in?

October 5th, 2010, 03:21 PM	#20
poo poo kinda sorta noob Name: poo poo Location: DC Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '03 and '08 Posts: 62	Godzilla, yes take it in. And ask the mechanics to explain what they did, so you can take care of it next time....l __________________________________________________ “Riding a motorcycle is ten percent hands and feet and ninety percent mind and eyes.”

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