So my bike turns off at an intersection

Ninja Rob · October 26th, 2014, 05:21 PM

My bike turned off at an intersection at a red light and luckily I was on the farthest right lane so I just pulled up into an empty parking lot nearby. I tried charging it with a car (turned off) at 5-10 minute intervals for about an hour and tried push starting it and nothing. It would just click. After about an hour, I tried another push start, it worked, and I went straight home. I know the battery is faulty because a while back I took it to Auto Zone and they told me one of the cells was dead. Knowing this, I decided to squeeze every drop of juice out of that battery before buying a new one. I think now is the time to buy another one. Any suggestions as to which one? And how do I know which part number? I called wal-mart and nothing, other car part shops sell them for about $134. Amazon has them at about $30 so now I just need to know which one. A friend of mine had a similar issue but his turned off on the high way. His issue was that he needed a new stator. I don't know in my case but here is the plan:

Step #1. Get a new Battery.
Step #2. Evaluate the effectiveness of Step#1

Motofool · October 26th, 2014, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Rob

........I think now is the time to buy another one. Any suggestions as to which one? And how do I know which part number?..............

All you need to know:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Battery_stuff

Part number for Ninja 250 95-07 is Yuasa YTX7L-BS or or X7L-BS (generic).
That battery is maintenance-free.

Finesse · October 26th, 2014, 05:52 PM

Never buy anything except a Yuasa battery.

LoneRonin · October 26th, 2014, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finesse

Never buy anything except a Yuasa battery.

+1 million.

My original battery has been going strong since 09 for over 50,000 miles. Where I live temps go from 95 to -13 farenheit. I've never once pulled my battery or winterized it and its never failed to start, other than maybe needing choke it starts up first time every time.
Then again other than this past winter which was brutal, the longest my bike has been without a ride is 3-4 weeks and its kept in a garage.

Ninja Rob · October 26th, 2014, 06:27 PM

I do ride my bike at least 4 days a week and today I rode it today for 30 minutes before turning it off to have lunch. On the ride back home is when it turned off. Thanks for the part number.

ninjamunky85 · October 26th, 2014, 07:09 PM

Bought a battery for the 250 this spring. The local Kawi dealer didn't have one in stock so I ended up getting one from batteries plus. It came with a one year warranty and was $30 cheaper. Yuasa makes a good battery but there are other good options IMO.

Desmoluci · October 26th, 2014, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Yuasa makes a good battery but there are other good options IMO.

I agree, regular battery maintenance and keeping a good charge on it means more than the brand name.

To the OP, running a bad battery puts a lot of extra load on the charging system, and charging system problems = $$$$.
Not only that, they fail at the most inopportune times as you found out.

Ninja Rob · October 26th, 2014, 09:40 PM

I just really want to ride my pony again

and I think I will just take the $67 battery they have at O'Reillys Auto Parts.
I believe the brand is Super Start.
Does anyone advise against it?
If not then I will order it from Amazon and wait a few days.

Here is the link of the battery that I will buy in about 9 hours when they open.
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...eyword=+x7l-bs

CajunNinjaR · October 27th, 2014, 04:02 AM

I've been running an O'Reilly battery for a year now and its still going strong. I was not impressed with the 90 day warranty but the battery seems to be good.
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Ninja Rob · October 27th, 2014, 08:00 AM

Ok. I just bought the battery oriellys part number GTX7LBS and the electrolyte says to only use it on CTX7LBS. IS it compatible? Is it the same thing or did they give me the wrong electrolyte?

flitecontrol · October 27th, 2014, 08:17 AM

I bought a cheap Chinese made battery from Batteries Plus in 2008 for the VN750. It lasted 18 months and died unexpectedly, leaving me stranded. I replaced it with a U.S. made battery that is still going strong. Yes, a few U.S. companies still make motorcycle batteries. Unfortunately, none fit the Ninja.

Another vote for Yuasa batteries. They only cost a few dollars more than the crappy batteries, and last a long time. The one in my 2004 Rebel is original.

InvisiBill · October 27th, 2014, 10:43 AM

I like the Deka AGMs from Advance Auto. They're around $50 with a coupon code, and you can pick them up right away. I bought mine in August 2010 for the VN700, and it's still going strong in the EX500, even after spending a winter sitting on the cold garage floor.

I thought at one time I found a cross-match part number at http://www.dekacatalog.com/ for a 250, but I don't remember the details and the site is acting up for me at the moment.

Ninja Rob · October 27th, 2014, 12:56 PM

Turns out it`s not the battery. Here is a picture of the thing that clicks and I think it needs to be changed.
Does anyone know what it is called?

Skullz · October 27th, 2014, 01:41 PM

starter solenoid

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...enoid&_sacat=0

Ninja Rob · October 27th, 2014, 01:43 PM

Thank you. I was really hoping that changing the battery would fix it but I don't mind. I learn my bike more and more.

Motofool · October 27th, 2014, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Rob

Turns out it`s not the battery. Here is a picture of the thing that clicks and I think it needs to be changed.
Does anyone know what it is called?

It was the battery ............ plus the thing that clicks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Rob

My bike turned off at an intersection at a red light...........I know the battery is faulty because a while back I took it to Auto Zone and they told me one of the cells was dead.........

That starter solenoid is a relay for starting up only, so all the current going through the starter does not need to go through the little starting button:

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_relays_work%3F

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Starter_circuit_schematic

CajunNinjaR · October 27th, 2014, 04:18 PM

My O'Reilly battery is part number etx9, the posts are slightly too wide so I have the terminals upside down. Still works great.
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Ninja Rob · October 27th, 2014, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

It was the battery ............ plus the thing that clicks.

That starter solenoid is a relay for starting up only, so all the current going through the starter does not need to go through the little starting button:

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_relays_work%3F

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Starter_circuit_schematic

I`m going to replace the selenoid relay. Hopefully that fixes the problem.

Ninja Rob · October 27th, 2014, 10:37 PM

So do I need to replace the selenoid relay as well?

Ninja Rob · October 30th, 2014, 03:22 PM

Changed both battery and selenoid relay and nothing. It still does not turn on. Just clicks but does nothing. It almost turned on and then it just went back to clicking.

I miss riding.

Skullz · October 30th, 2014, 04:46 PM

Make sure your resting voltage is 12.8 or close to it otherwise the battery may not have enough charge to start the bike.
If the voltage is fine then you possibly have a bad starter needing a replacement, you could pull it out and see if it works.

Ninja Rob · October 30th, 2014, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullz

Make sure your resting voltage is 12.8 or close to it otherwise the battery may not have enough charge to start the bike.
If the voltage is fine then you possibly have a bad starter needing a replacement, you could pull it out and see if it works.

Voltage is like 13.5. Where is the Starter located and how do I test it? And about how much do they cost?

October 26th, 2014, 05:52 PM	#3
Finesse ran when parked Name: Katie Location: DC/MD Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): Freeride 250R, KLX250SF, mopeds Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '17, Dec '14	Never buy anything except a Yuasa battery. __________________________________________________ Instagram: @katie.baden
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October 26th, 2014, 06:27 PM	#5
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	I do ride my bike at least 4 days a week and today I rode it today for 30 minutes before turning it off to have lunch. On the ride back home is when it turned off. Thanks for the part number. __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle.

October 26th, 2014, 07:09 PM	#6
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	Bought a battery for the 250 this spring. The local Kawi dealer didn't have one in stock so I ended up getting one from batteries plus. It came with a one year warranty and was $30 cheaper. Yuasa makes a good battery but there are other good options IMO. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

October 26th, 2014, 09:40 PM	#8
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	I just really want to ride my pony again and I think I will just take the $67 battery they have at O'Reillys Auto Parts. I believe the brand is Super Start. Does anyone advise against it? If not then I will order it from Amazon and wait a few days. Here is the link of the battery that I will buy in about 9 hours when they open. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...eyword=+x7l-bs __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle. Last futzed with by Ninja Rob; October 26th, 2014 at 09:48 PM. Reason: forgot link

October 27th, 2014, 08:00 AM	#10
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	Ok. I just bought the battery oriellys part number GTX7LBS and the electrolyte says to only use it on CTX7LBS. IS it compatible? Is it the same thing or did they give me the wrong electrolyte? __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle.

October 26th, 2014, 05:21 PM	#1
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	So my bike turns off at an intersection My bike turned off at an intersection at a red light and luckily I was on the farthest right lane so I just pulled up into an empty parking lot nearby. I tried charging it with a car (turned off) at 5-10 minute intervals for about an hour and tried push starting it and nothing. It would just click. After about an hour, I tried another push start, it worked, and I went straight home. I know the battery is faulty because a while back I took it to Auto Zone and they told me one of the cells was dead. Knowing this, I decided to squeeze every drop of juice out of that battery before buying a new one. I think now is the time to buy another one. Any suggestions as to which one? And how do I know which part number? I called wal-mart and nothing, other car part shops sell them for about $134. Amazon has them at about $30 so now I just need to know which one. A friend of mine had a similar issue but his turned off on the high way. His issue was that he needed a new stator. I don't know in my case but here is the plan: Step #1. Get a new Battery. Step #2. Evaluate the effectiveness of Step#1 __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle.

October 27th, 2014, 04:02 AM	#9
CajunNinjaR ninjette coonass Name: Joshua Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250, 06 wr450f, x15 110, tiny 50 Posts: 30	I've been running an O'Reilly battery for a year now and its still going strong. I was not impressed with the 90 day warranty but the battery seems to be good. Posted via Mobile Device

October 27th, 2014, 08:17 AM	#11
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	I bought a cheap Chinese made battery from Batteries Plus in 2008 for the VN750. It lasted 18 months and died unexpectedly, leaving me stranded. I replaced it with a U.S. made battery that is still going strong. Yes, a few U.S. companies still make motorcycle batteries. Unfortunately, none fit the Ninja. Another vote for Yuasa batteries. They only cost a few dollars more than the crappy batteries, and last a long time. The one in my 2004 Rebel is original.

October 27th, 2014, 10:43 AM	#12
InvisiBill EX500 full of EX250 parts Name: Bill Location: Grand Rapids-ish, MI Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '18 Ninja 400 • '09 Ninja 500R (selling) • '98 VFR800 (project) • '85 Vulcan VN700 (sold) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Aug '15	I like the Deka AGMs from Advance Auto. They're around $50 with a coupon code, and you can pick them up right away. I bought mine in August 2010 for the VN700, and it's still going strong in the EX500, even after spending a winter sitting on the cold garage floor. I thought at one time I found a cross-match part number at http://www.dekacatalog.com/ for a 250, but I don't remember the details and the site is acting up for me at the moment. __________________________________________________ * Unregistered, I'm not your mom and I'm not paying for your parts, so do whatever you want with your own bike. *

October 27th, 2014, 01:41 PM	#14
Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	starter solenoid http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...enoid&_sacat=0

October 27th, 2014, 01:43 PM	#15
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	Thank you. I was really hoping that changing the battery would fix it but I don't mind. I learn my bike more and more. __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle.

October 27th, 2014, 04:18 PM	#17
CajunNinjaR ninjette coonass Name: Joshua Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250, 06 wr450f, x15 110, tiny 50 Posts: 30	My O'Reilly battery is part number etx9, the posts are slightly too wide so I have the terminals upside down. Still works great. Posted via Mobile Device
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

October 27th, 2014, 10:37 PM	#19
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	So do I need to replace the selenoid relay as well? __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle.

October 30th, 2014, 03:22 PM	#20
Ninja Rob ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Texas Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 342	Changed both battery and selenoid relay and nothing. It still does not turn on. Just clicks but does nothing. It almost turned on and then it just went back to clicking. I miss riding. __________________________________________________ Before life ends, Some people want to climb Mount Everest, some want to go to Disney Land, some people want to visit Paris. Me, I want to ride a motorcycle.

October 30th, 2014, 04:46 PM	#21
Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	Make sure your resting voltage is 12.8 or close to it otherwise the battery may not have enough charge to start the bike. If the voltage is fine then you possibly have a bad starter needing a replacement, you could pull it out and see if it works.

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