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Old May 20th, 2009, 07:54 PM   #1
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Unhappy 2009 OTD Pricing? Ripoff?

Hey everyone. I need your wisdom. I live in Federal Way WA back home and I am here for the summer. I emailed a few local dealerships for pricing and one replied in two hours! Now I know I should take into account now is the riding season, the popularity of the ninja yada yada yada. The gentleman said he had a couple black 09 models left but not many in stock for the whole. What I want to know is how would you feel about being quoted $5147.40??? He seemed to be honest and offered discounts on parts and gear during the same day as my purchase but this just seems borderline too much. I'm awaiting the breakdown of what fees are tacked on. Tax here would be just south of $400 and I'd imagine setup fees would be included but that still leaves several hundred that he could be ripping me off for silly fees.

Of course I am going to poke around and see how low I can get seeing as it is the prime riding season so pricing will be higher. What are your feelings, thoughts and/or concerns? If any fellow WA riders in the area can chime in that would be great. Also anyone that has purchased a 250 since Feb. please provide your location and breakdown of OTD pricing. Should I wait a few months for the 'winter' season and look at the 10' models or bite the bullet and get a 09' now at the 'best' price possible. Thanks!
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Old May 20th, 2009, 07:55 PM   #2
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Old May 20th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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keep shopping.
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Admittedly I bought mine at the end of last summer, but I paid $4300 OTD *and* got 15% off all the gear I bought the same day... and the dealership's given me 10% off my gear ever since.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 08:24 PM   #4
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That seems high to me too. I paid $6636 out the door but that included some accessories including lowering links and seat cowl. I also paid close to 10% tax because I bought it in San Francisco. Come to think of it, I paid too much too. Oh well.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 08:29 PM   #5
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I bought my 2008 here in Canada, out the door with all taxes and such, for about 4000 US dollars a year. Granted things have gone up a bit since then, but not that much. I don't think these bikes are as hotly in demand as last year, so I can't see paying more than the low to mid-4000s.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 08:48 PM   #6
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I would imagine that anything north of $4800 without any extras thrown in is a little steep. But you know what someone WILL pay those prices so why should the stealerships come down? Time to play the waiting game
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Old May 20th, 2009, 08:56 PM   #7
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or keep shopping at other dealerships... or play one against the other to lower the price... or buy a used 08/09 bike??? is that an option?
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Old May 20th, 2009, 08:59 PM   #8
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i feel ripped off anytime i buy a new bike or car. used and with cash is the way to go.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #9
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LOL that price is normal up here in Canada. I've seen used 2008 250r's going for that price here.....
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Old May 20th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #10
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Found this site after I bought my bike. For $15 you can get Dealer invoice.

Dealer invoice is the price a dealer pays the manufacturer for a new vehicle. By knowing what the actual dealer cost is for a new ATV, motorcycle, or personal watercraft, a smart buyer can often save hundreds or even thousands of dollars when buying a new machine.
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Maybe this will help you get a better price.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #11
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Purchased mine in march, 2009 black, new, $4300 OTD and they ended up letting me pay with a credit card despite all the "cash" talk

i went to 3 dealerships that weekend and had trouble getting anything less than that.

this was in southern cali.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 01:16 AM   #12
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In Canada, a Ninja 250R goes for around $5200 otd with taxes in. Sounds about right to me! lol
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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:03 AM   #13
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In Rhode Island I paid $3999 + 280 tax + 125 freight for a blue 2009.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:21 AM   #14
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kkim yes buying a used 08 or 09 is an option. Just waiting to hear back from dealerships I emailed yesterday. Not in a hurry by any means. I might have to check out the invoice as well. Thanks for the suggestions!
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Old May 21st, 2009, 07:44 AM   #15
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The lowest I got was $4460.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 07:45 AM   #16
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Purchased mine in march, 2009 black, new, $4300 OTD and they ended up letting me pay with a credit card despite all the "cash" talk

i went to 3 dealerships that weekend and had trouble getting anything less than that.

this was in southern cali.
What's the interest on that CC?
Why would you purchase a bike with a CC?
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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:18 AM   #17
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I just bought the 09 Green SE and paid $4099. I also got a finance rate of 4.3%.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:44 AM   #18
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I just bought the 09 Green SE and paid $4099. I also got a finance rate of 4.3%.
Was this through the dealership? Its the two year plan at low monthly payments that kawi has with HSBC? Where'd you manage to snag a SE at msrp and when!!??
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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:53 AM   #19
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I live in Fort Wayne IN. I did get it thru a dealership. I did not go thru the Kawaski program. There program is very similar to a credit card, and the intrest goes up to 15% after two years. To be honest, I do not remember which bank I am going thru. It was a special deal they offered the dealership. There is no early pay off fees, interest is 4.3% for 60 months. My payment is $83 per month. I do plan on paying it off in about two years though. I purchased the bike three weeks ago, with only two miles on it. It know has over 500 miles on it.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 09:18 AM   #20
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bluechad you got a hell of a deal my man. enjoy your ninja!
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Old May 21st, 2009, 10:09 AM   #21
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I got my '09 for a little less than $4100 OTD and 50% off a jacket. I'm paying it by Kawi's payment plan through HSBC. Its 6% interest for the first 2 years, then it skyrockets. I'll have it payed off by then though...
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it's better off getting a loan from the bank than to go thru their program.
try capitalone. they offer me 3.98 % up to $10,000 for a new bike but i found a used bike and paid with cash.
i think they also have offer for used bike but the rate may be higher. i'm not too sure on this.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 10:22 AM   #23
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I paid $4300 OTD about 3 months ago with 25% discount on accessories.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 10:38 AM   #24
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I've gotta keep shopping for sure. Congrats to all that were able to come away with a great deal
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Old May 21st, 2009, 11:17 AM   #25
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i would try a used one in great condition if you can find it. i got my 08 for $2500
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What's the interest on that CC?
Why would you purchase a bike with a CC?
I'd buy a bike on a CC if it was a rewards card and I had the cash in the bank - that way you get the points/whatever your CC offers and then pay it off that month, not incurring any interest or finance charges.

I actually did buy mine on the HSBC Kawi card - 6 months no interest no payments meant that I could keep my $4000 in the bank and earn a little money on it before I paid the bike off.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 11:32 AM   #27
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After striking out a few times trying to pick up an '08, I picked up a Red '09 for $3999 ($4049 OTD after a $50 "documentation" fee). Like others have suggested, keep looking around. I checked several dealers before finding the shop I ultimately bought it from, and most had $240-500 worth of markup on the '09 250r's.

The shop I bought it from is roughly an hour away, roughly the same distance as all the others I looked at. There's a motorcycle dealer about a half mile from my house, but they turned in all their Kawasaki inventory a couple weeks before I decided to buy new (they no longer sell Kawasaki).
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I've gotta keep shopping for sure.
Agreed. If you cant find any dealer close that has one for a reasonable price, buy used. You'd be surprise how many people sell with <1000 miles.
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Labrador is not exactly the motorcycle capital of Eastern Canada but there is a Kawasaki dealer here thank goodness. I got my 250 for $CAD5300 OTD or about $CAD4700 before taxes etc. I would guess that converts to 4,100 $US. The price is not a great deal but there's a hefty shipping charge to bring things in here.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 03:25 PM   #30
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I think it will all work out. There's no way I'm going to settle and be ashamed of posting how much I payed haha. I appreciate all the advice.

What fees like doc., licensing, freight, setup, assembly are required? I have a feeling it is up to the dealers what they add in the markup. Seems like dealers close by me are going the extra mile and adding all of em
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Old May 21st, 2009, 05:59 PM   #31
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What's the interest on that CC?
Why would you purchase a bike with a CC?
I paid it off immediately. All the while, I got 2% cashback on the purchase too.

I was also co siderin transfering it to a 0% card at the time too but decided just to pay it in full.
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Yes keep shopping around, my personal experience was I purchased my 08 ninja for around $3800. Definitely check Craigslist in the area, I've been seeing a few around the 4k range (a bit high even for used). Good luck !
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I live in tacoma, wa and I bought mine @ rmc (renton motorcycles) got mine in april and they have a no tax deal @ the time. Paid 4000 plus license plus financing. Just stopped by there and hour ago and they have every color on the sales floor. Great guys. They have a website. Give them a call if u haven't already and ask for Carl. Dude is. Funny.
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I live in tacoma, wa and I bought mine @ rmc (renton motorcycles) got mine in april and they have a no tax deal @ the time. Paid 4000 plus license plus financing. Just stopped by there and hour ago and they have every color on the sales floor. Great guys. They have a website. Give them a call if u haven't already and ask for Carl. Dude is. Funny.
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Hey richierich781 the quote I provided to begin this thread is from RMC! This is what I received from Wolfgang Grasst (handles internet sales and quotes at RMC)

The freight, assembly and set up total 574.00 for this bike.

So that is like $4573 right there off the bat and tax would bring it to about $4900. That's not exact but already I'm up there for OTD. Not sure where the other 200 accounts for. Maybe I should make the drive and talk to them in person but so far I'm looking elsewhere.
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you can't expect the salemen to give the best price to everyone who asks on the internet. Get your ass down there and bargain with them. Once they see you're serious, the true pricing will start to emerge. This is how most deals are made... be it motorcycles or cars.
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Beat me to it. What kim said. I think its worth the drive.
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I will indeed take that drive and keep you all posted. Craigslist is looking more favorable for my area lately!
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One thing thats good news. You will be able to deduct all of the sales tax on almost all new vehicles purchased this year.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/31/i...utos-official/
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Nickds7 so from what I understand is if a buy a car/motorcycle/truck from now till Jan 2010 and I make less than like 150k a year and the bike or vehicle is less than like 50k then I can get the sales tax I paid back when I do my taxes? So if I buy my Ninja Two Fiddy new this fall then when I do taxes next year I will be good to go?
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