Ninja 300 Production Number

Surferboy120 · October 13th, 2012, 08:35 AM

I was curious if the last four or 5 digits of the serial represented what number it was off the assembly line. Anyone know? If it is I would be interested in what number your bike is off the assembly line.

Mine is 015XX

Edit:

So i just spoke with my dealer and there is two assembly line numbers. One for the engine and one for the bike as a whole. He also said its the last 6 Alpha\Numeric that make it up. He did not know what the Alpha part of it stood for so in my case the "A". Curious what you guys may already know in regards.

So for my bike I have the following.

Engine - A015XX
Bike - A015XX

Alex · October 13th, 2012, 12:43 PM

I'd "X" out the last digit or two in your post. It's not a great idea to have a VIN number out there quite that publicly, and it can be quickly assumed if someone has the make/model + the last few numbers.

My last five numbers for the bike are 026XX, so if it is sequential, mine was just a wee bit behind yours.

Surferboy120 · October 13th, 2012, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I'd "X" out the last digit or two in your post. It's not a great idea to have a VIN number out there quite that publicly, and it can be quickly assumed if someone has the make/model + the last few numbers.

My last five numbers for the bike are 026XX, so if it is sequential, mine was just a wee bit behind yours.

Thanks for the heads up and also posting your assembly line #. I am curious what other countries such as Australia have for #s to see who got what first. I think they got theirs before us as did Europe.

Still not sure what someone would do with the VIN but this day and age you just never know.

Thanks again

Alex · October 13th, 2012, 01:03 PM

With a VIN and a zip code, you can do all sorts of things on the CA DMV site, not sure about other states.

Surferboy120 · October 13th, 2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

With a VIN and a zip code, you can do all sorts of things on the CA DMV site, not sure about other states.

Yup this day and age there is just no telling. We do online tags and such so if you have a plate plus VIN you could get some fake tags I bet. Either way good catch on your part.

Now who got a bike in the first 500 or 1000 batch.

CZroe · October 13th, 2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferboy120

Thanks for the heads up and also posting your assembly line #. I am curious what other countries such as Australia have for #s to see who got what first. I think they got theirs before us as did Europe.

Still not sure what someone would do with the VIN but this day and age you just never know.

Thanks again

Too late. I already reported it "stolen."

tnr4 · October 13th, 2012, 06:51 PM

19XX. The middle child so far.

Jiggles · October 14th, 2012, 12:30 AM

My guess is A is the year, B will be 2014

CZroe · October 14th, 2012, 02:32 AM

Well, here's how it has worked for the model numbers of past Ninjettes:
E-series
EX250E1 - 1986
EX250E2 - 1987

F-series
EX250F2 - 1988
EX250F3 - 1989
EX250F4 - 1990
EX250F5 - 1991 (*)
EX250F6 - 1992
EX250F7 - 1993
EX250F8 - 1994
EX250F9 - 1995
EX250F10 - 1996
EX250F11 - 1997
EX250F12 - 1998
EX250F13 - 1999
EX250F14 - 2000
EX250F15 - 2001
EX250F16 - 2002
EX250F17 - 2003
EX250F18 - 2004
EX250F19 - 2005
EX250F6F - 2006
EX250F7F - 2007

J-series
EX250J8F - 2008
EX250J9F - 2009
EX250JAF - 2010
EX250JBF - 2011
EX250JCF - 2012

Ninja 300
EX300ADF - 2013

The "A" in EX300A denotes it as the first Ninja 300, but will stay the same next year if they don't revise the bike significantly. The "D" is the year and it falls in yearly sequence with EX250J?F. Next year's 2014 EX300 will likely be EX300AEF.

*assumption; 1991 is strangely missing on Kawasaki's website

Surferboy120 · October 14th, 2012, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

Too late. I already reported it "stolen."

Sweet can't wait to get my check and now I have a track bike full time LOL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnr4

19XX. The middle child so far.

Got you updated in the list now. Have any idea of your showed up at the dealer before mine Alex? Was wild in that my dealer here in Texas got their two 300s 2 weeks before any other dealer at least in Texas. Once they did I had dealers calling me on the same day and time LOL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

My guess is A is the year, B will be 2014

Good guess from what CZroe is saying you nailed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

Well, here's how it has worked for the model numbers:
E-series
EX250E1 - 1986
EX250E2 - 1987

F-series
EX250F2 - 1988
EX250F3 - 1989
EX250F4 - 1990
EX250F5 - 1991 (*)
EX250F6 - 1992
EX250F7 - 1993
EX250F8 - 1994
EX250F9 - 1995
EX250F10 - 1996
EX250F11 - 1997
EX250F12 - 1998
EX250F13 - 1999
EX250F14 - 2000
EX250F15 - 2001
EX250F16 - 2002
EX250F17 - 2003
EX250F18 - 2004
EX250F19 - 2005
EX250F6F - 2006
EX250F7F - 2007

J-series
EX250J8F - 2008
EX250J9F - 2009
EX250JAF - 2010
EX250JBF - 2011
EX250JCF - 2012

Ninja 300
EX300ADF - 2013

The "A" in EX300A denotes it as the first Ninja 300. The "D" is the year and it falls in yearly sequence with EX250J?F.

*assumption; 1991 is strangely missing on Kawasaki's website

Thanks for the info this makes a lot of sense now.

CZroe · October 14th, 2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferboy120

Sweet can't wait to get my check and now I have a track bike full time LOL.

Got you updated in the list now. Have any idea of your showed up at the dealer before mine Alex? Was wild in that my dealer here in Texas got their two 300s 2 weeks before any other dealer at least in Texas. Once they did I had dealers calling me on the same day and time LOL.

Good guess from what CZroe is saying you nailed it.

Thanks for the info this makes a lot of sense now.

There were years where "A" denoted the year (2010) and where "A" denoted the generation (2013). Because next year will likely be the same generation, the model number will retain the "A" until we have a new generation. 2014 will likely be EX300AEF. If, by some miracle, we get a new generation it will be EX300BEF. Despite having a clear idea of where the model numbers are headed, I don't know what the VINs are going to do because I don't know if the "A" there related to the generation or if they are incrementing it with the year like they have in other places. If they also have a D somewhere in the 2013 VINs, it may change to E and continue.

Alex · October 14th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Yes, the A in this case means non-ABS. The ABS models will have a B in the same place.

CZroe · October 14th, 2012, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Yes, the A in this case means non-ABS. The ABS models will have a B in the same place.

So it's kinda like non-FI/FI being EX250J/EX250K. If we still have ABS and non-ABS in the next generation, they'd be EX300C (non-ABS) and EX300D (ABS), assuming that other countries didn't use those letters for variants we are unaware of, much like Canada's EX250H and Indonesia's EX250L. It makes me wonder if the EX250G and EX250I were FI versions of the EX250F and EX250H in some very limited markets! Edit: OK, I see that EX250G was a different bike with a lot in common with the EX250F sold in limited markets. Main changes where dual-disc brakes and a bigger front tire. It would not have had FI back then, as I understand things.

Anyway, according to ninja250.org, the EX250E was only available in 1986 in Japan, which leads me to believe that they got the F-series a year sooner with an EX250, which would explain what happened to the EX250F1.

Jiggles · October 14th, 2012, 02:46 PM

Thank god you figured all that out

CZroe · October 14th, 2012, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Thank god you figured all that out

You don't think it's interesting that the pregen may actually have had a longer and more impressive run than we thought? 1987-2007. Consider that it likely started selling in 1986 and while the 2008-model successor did not start in 2007 and you've got a 21-year history.

Jiggles · October 14th, 2012, 10:03 PM

Idk how I've survived without that vital information

2013 kawi girl · October 14th, 2012, 10:28 PM

Let's just say mine is between 1-300

Not planned... just adopted my baby early.

Surferboy120 · October 15th, 2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 kawi girl

Let's just say mine is between 1-300

Not planned... just adopted my baby early.

So the last 6 digits of the VIN are something like 003XX ? I ask because Cali seemed to not be one of the first ones to get their bikes. I just want to confirm since the VIN # is very low. Thanks in adavnce.

Mehbs300 · October 16th, 2012, 01:05 AM

I'm an Auzzie mine is A004XX
First 500 Yew.

CZroe · October 16th, 2012, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferboy120

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 kawi girl

Let's just say mine is between 1-300

Not planned... just adopted my baby early.

So the last 6 digits of the VIN are something like 003XX ? I ask because Cali seemed to not be one of the first ones to get their bikes. I just want to confirm since the VIN # is very low. Thanks in adavnce.

Could it be that CA-version bikes have a different prefix and, thus, start counting again from the beginning?

Surferboy120 · October 16th, 2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

Could it be that CA-version bikes have a different prefix and, thus, start counting again from the beginning?

Possibly I guess the more Cali ones we get we will see. I thought the Auzzies would have the lowest VIN #s since they got theirs sooner I believe as well as other countries but that doesnt really represent what got on a boat first or not LOL.

If she can give me mor of the VIN I can put her in better order too. With so little of the VIN I see no risk of sharing at this point.

Surferboy120 · October 16th, 2012, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehbs300

I'm an Auzzie mine is A004XX
First 500 Yew.

Thank you I am adding you as well.

kooshbox · October 16th, 2012, 08:18 AM

Ventura County, CA

A029XX

slacksar · October 16th, 2012, 09:23 AM

012xx here in western Maryland.

Love this bike !

2013 kawi girl · October 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM

I just went outside and confirmed that the VIN does look like you guys state. A00XXX... I believed the same thing that you guys did so I triple checked and had a friend check for me too and he confirmed. I'm not quite sure how my dealer got this bike, but this is the one they had for me. I know that they got another in and that VIN also read A00XXX.

smokinsingle · October 19th, 2012, 12:21 PM

The "A" before the last 5 digits of your VIN denotes that it is made in Thailand. That is all. See attached document from Kawi on this. Also, I wouldn't be scared to put the whole last 6 of the VIN out there on a forum, can't do anything with out all of the digits.

Surferboy120 · October 19th, 2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 kawi girl

I just went outside and confirmed that the VIN does look like you guys state. A00XXX... I believed the same thing that you guys did so I triple checked and had a friend check for me too and he confirmed. I'm not quite sure how my dealer got this bike, but this is the one they had for me. I know that they got another in and that VIN also read A00XXX.

So is it A001XX or A003XX ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinsingle

The "A" before the last 5 digits of your VIN denotes that it is made in Thailand. That is all. See attached document from Kawi on this. Also, I wouldn't be scared to put the whole last 6 of the VIN out there on a forum, can't do anything with out all of the digits.

Thanks for the info this is good to know.

Magicride · October 26th, 2012, 11:19 PM

Los Angeles County, CA
A028XX

S1att3r · October 30th, 2012, 07:11 PM

North East Texas
A014XX

Surferboy120 · October 30th, 2012, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S1att3r

North East Texas
A014XX

You have been added.

Nice to see another Texan.

Ravenger · November 3rd, 2012, 09:28 AM

South Africa Cape Town A030XX

DaveTheCanuck · November 3rd, 2012, 10:20 AM

A032XX - Ontario, Canada

Surferboy120 · November 4th, 2012, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenger

South Africa Cape Town A030XX

You have been added thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTheCanuck

A032XX - Ontario, Canada

You also have been added thank you as well.

Interesting production numbers and where they are all from.

80MPHdownhill · November 5th, 2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

With a VIN and a zip code, you can do all sorts of things on the CA DMV site,

Like what?

B/c there's millions of M/Cs parked at the houses, condos and apartment complexes in my area, with their VINs in full display on their frames (m/cs) or through their windshields (cars).

Are all those people (including me) in some kind of danger b/c our VIN and zip code are public information?

Alex · November 5th, 2012, 12:49 PM

Danger is perhaps a strong word. But with that information, someone can successfully impersonate you on the DMV site. That could mean changing your registration status, submitting paperwork showing you sold the vehicle, and perhaps more use cases that don't come immediately to mind.

Seeing how easy it is to get someone else's VIN (by the methods you describe), and how easy it would be to guess a zip code (simply by the vehicle's current location), perhaps it shouldn't be used at all to authenticate access to the site. But nevertheless, it is.

snot · December 3rd, 2012, 05:38 PM

A010xx

Surferboy120 · December 4th, 2012, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snot

A010xx

Wow a low number with the bike having been out for awhile. How long have you had the bike now? I have added you to the list.

snot · December 4th, 2012, 09:41 AM

since last night, the dealer had it for over a month

Tigerpaw · December 4th, 2012, 12:08 PM

A056XX

What do I win?

Surferboy120 · December 4th, 2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snot

since last night, the dealer had it for over a month

Wow it did sit awhile.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigerpaw

A056XX

What do I win?

You have been added.

October 13th, 2012, 08:35 AM	#1
Surferboy120 Finding some curves.... Name: Thomas Location: Hurst,Texas Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 300 Ninja Posts: 268	Ninja 300 Production Number I was curious if the last four or 5 digits of the serial represented what number it was off the assembly line. Anyone know? If it is I would be interested in what number your bike is off the assembly line. Mine is 015XX Edit: So i just spoke with my dealer and there is two assembly line numbers. One for the engine and one for the bike as a whole. He also said its the last 6 Alpha\Numeric that make it up. He did not know what the Alpha part of it stood for so in my case the "A". Curious what you guys may already know in regards. So for my bike I have the following. Engine - A015XX Bike - A015XX Last futzed with by Alex; December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 PM.

October 13th, 2012, 12:43 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I'd "X" out the last digit or two in your post. It's not a great idea to have a VIN number out there quite that publicly, and it can be quickly assumed if someone has the make/model + the last few numbers. My last five numbers for the bike are 026XX, so if it is sequential, mine was just a wee bit behind yours. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

October 13th, 2012, 01:03 PM	#4
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	With a VIN and a zip code, you can do all sorts of things on the CA DMV site, not sure about other states. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

October 14th, 2012, 12:30 AM	#8
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	My guess is A is the year, B will be 2014 __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 14th, 2012, 02:32 AM	#9
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Well, here's how it has worked for the model numbers of past Ninjettes: E-series EX250E1 - 1986 EX250E2 - 1987 F-series EX250F2 - 1988 EX250F3 - 1989 EX250F4 - 1990 EX250F5 - 1991 () EX250F6 - 1992 EX250F7 - 1993 EX250F8 - 1994 EX250F9 - 1995 EX250F10 - 1996 EX250F11 - 1997 EX250F12 - 1998 EX250F13 - 1999 EX250F14 - 2000 EX250F15 - 2001 EX250F16 - 2002 EX250F17 - 2003 EX250F18 - 2004 EX250F19 - 2005 EX250F6F - 2006 EX250F7F - 2007 J-series EX250J8F - 2008 EX250J9F - 2009 EX250JAF - 2010 EX250JBF - 2011 EX250JCF - 2012 Ninja 300 EX300ADF - 2013 The "A" in EX300A denotes it as the first Ninja 300, but will stay the same next year if they don't revise the bike significantly. The "D" is the year and it falls in yearly sequence with EX250J?F. Next year's 2014 EX300 will likely be EX300AEF. assumption; 1991 is strangely missing on Kawasaki's website Last futzed with by CZroe; October 14th, 2012 at 08:32 AM.

October 13th, 2012, 06:51 PM	#7
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	19XX. The middle child so far.

October 14th, 2012, 09:38 AM	#12
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Yes, the A in this case means non-ABS. The ABS models will have a B in the same place. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

October 14th, 2012, 02:46 PM	#14
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Thank god you figured all that out __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 14th, 2012, 10:03 PM	#16
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Idk how I've survived without that vital information __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 14th, 2012, 10:28 PM	#17
2013 kawi girl ninjette.org member Name: Kawi girl Location: California Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ninja 300 Posts: 38	Let's just say mine is between 1-300 Not planned... just adopted my baby early.

October 16th, 2012, 01:05 AM	#19
Mehbs300 ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Maroochydore QLD Australia Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 NINJA 300 Posts: 32	I'm an Auzzie mine is A004XX First 500 Yew.

October 16th, 2012, 08:18 AM	#23
kooshbox ninjette.org member Name: Shawn Location: Southern California Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 40	Ventura County, CA A029XX __________________________________________________ OZmG i'm hungry

October 16th, 2012, 09:23 AM	#24
slacksar ninjette.org newbie Name: Casey Location: Hagerstown, MD Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300 in the fastest color (white, obviously) Posts: 2	012xx here in western Maryland. Love this bike !

October 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM	#25
2013 kawi girl ninjette.org member Name: Kawi girl Location: California Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ninja 300 Posts: 38	I just went outside and confirmed that the VIN does look like you guys state. A00XXX... I believed the same thing that you guys did so I triple checked and had a friend check for me too and he confirmed. I'm not quite sure how my dealer got this bike, but this is the one they had for me. I know that they got another in and that VIN also read A00XXX.

October 26th, 2012, 11:19 PM	#28
Magicride ninjette.org member Name: Steven Location: Newhall, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): White Ninja 300 Posts: 11	Los Angeles County, CA A028XX

October 30th, 2012, 07:11 PM	#29
S1att3r ninjette.org member Name: Raygan Location: North East Texas Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): White 2013 Ninja 300(Storm), Silver 2003 Fjr1300 Posts: 173	North East Texas A014XX

November 3rd, 2012, 09:28 AM	#31
Ravenger ninjette.org member Name: Jacques Location: South Africa, Stellenbosch Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300 Posts: 37	South Africa Cape Town A030XX

November 3rd, 2012, 10:20 AM	#32
DaveTheCanuck Moo Name: David Location: Toronto'ish, Canada Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 103	A032XX - Ontario, Canada

November 5th, 2012, 12:49 PM	#35
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Danger is perhaps a strong word. But with that information, someone can successfully impersonate you on the DMV site. That could mean changing your registration status, submitting paperwork showing you sold the vehicle, and perhaps more use cases that don't come immediately to mind. Seeing how easy it is to get someone else's VIN (by the methods you describe), and how easy it would be to guess a zip code (simply by the vehicle's current location), perhaps it shouldn't be used at all to authenticate access to the site. But nevertheless, it is. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

December 3rd, 2012, 05:38 PM	#36
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	A010xx

December 4th, 2012, 09:41 AM	#38
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	since last night, the dealer had it for over a month

December 4th, 2012, 12:08 PM	#39
Tigerpaw ninjette.org guru Name: Tom Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 '09 Boulevard C50. '08 250r(TOTALED BY DEER) Posts: 467	A056XX What do I win? __________________________________________________ CHEERS!!!

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