so what did i do to my motor?

saber63 · September 11th, 2010, 10:32 PM

SOoooo i normally ride a '03 600RR, but this last summer i was more using the 89 250 i got for a deal, ive done some work to it, pod filters jet kit, complete rework of front suspension, GSXR shock in the rear, mt-75 tires, etc... i normally shift at 12-15K... i use WOT often, i took it for a track day and was out riden a few guys on faster bikes. you get the idea.

i did a vavle adjustment carb tune etc.. about 1-2K miles ago,

im going for a freeway slab to the parnets house, (80 mile trip, sits around 9-10K revs) all is good, on the way home.... it seems to lose some power and be running rough and the temps are abit high. sounds. poppy?

i take it for a few short trips, everything seems fine...

go for a ride to get on the freeway, about 5 miles in it losses power, then dies, and pegs the temp gauge. i cost off the freeway (getting a flat rear tire BTW) but because no one is picking up ther phones, i wiat 10mintues, bike cools off and starts

it sounds like its running on .22lr shells, and goes another 2-3 blocks till it stalls, luckly right as si get to a parking lot, where im allowed to keep it over night.

fastforward to now. bike wont start (turns over) plugs look alright(little white) but theres no puff coming form the exhaust when it cranks, and hte motor sounds as if it doesnt have **** for compression.

its possible the valves are jsut stupid tight... but i set them max loss 1-2K miles ago... but the 89's are supposed to have soft valve seats.... so could that be it?

or is it more likely i burnt a valve? maybe holed a piston?

what your guys guess?

hopefully ill have the head pulled tomorrow!

-Levi

saber63 · September 12th, 2010, 10:43 AM

so i got it found out... and well ill keep it under wraps for a few days so a few more people can take a vote

-Levi

Alex · September 12th, 2010, 10:44 AM

The suspense is killing us. What will we do to pass the time?

mrlmd · September 12th, 2010, 11:11 AM

You ran out of gas.
You couldn't have screwed up the engine by abusing it, right?

saber63 · September 12th, 2010, 11:15 AM

ROFL did not run out of gas.

ill give you guys a hint. it will require motor work of some sort

-levi

hinow41 · September 12th, 2010, 11:59 AM

Is it just one of the cylinders?

mrlmd · September 13th, 2010, 10:49 AM

He's not going to tell us for a few more days. He really needs that time to work on it some more and try and figure it out, or have the mechanic figure it out.

saber63 · September 13th, 2010, 11:24 AM

lol,

no problem is very well know, i have a short video showing the WTF moment

and the motor lives about 90miles from me... so i'll only see it on the weekends

ill probably spoil it sense no one seems to be guessing... *shrug*

-Levi

highpsiguy · September 13th, 2010, 02:59 PM

You sucked in a pigeon thru your pods while riding in 6th gear at 14k rpms and that brought your ninja down. Just like a big Boeing 747 hitting a flock of birds.

saber63 · September 13th, 2010, 03:53 PM

LOL, i wish the ninja would have done 14K in 6th gear! lol

ill let the cat out of the beg

it appears that the low side i had did more then bend the levers... like maybe starve of oil for a spilt second....

cause it ate up a conrod bearing! when i pulled the heads, the one cylnder looked really clean around the edges, cyclnder walls were perfect!

so i pulled the cylnders... everything looks normal, it would turn over easy.... hmmm

get ready to spilt the casses, so i go to pull the pistons off the con rods.... oh... look the shiny piston one... has about a 1/8-1/4" of play on the crank.... so the piston was shiny and the noise was caused by the piston smacking the top of the head!

so i didn't crack the case as it was getting close to lunch time... but im pretty sure the crank and con rod are shoot, ill have to check the head and piston, but they might be ok... still debating on if i want to rebuild it... ive got a spare crank and head... so.... just the disposables and the conrod if im lucky

ill upload a video of the play alittle later

ive gotten a lead on a 660 banshee motor.... might go that route instead

00NissanNinja · September 13th, 2010, 06:08 PM

Wow... I'm happy that didn't happen to me during my low side. Did the bike turn off once it got laid down?

ryu hayabusa · September 14th, 2010, 09:59 PM

please work on your grammar. food is very hard to digest when no salt is used. show pics of said bearing when time comes. remember " pics or it didn't happen"

dubojr1 · September 15th, 2010, 07:36 AM

Did I miss the low-side story??

I do find it impossible to believe that a "split" second of starvation ruined a connecting rod bearing. I'm pretty sure someone forgot to check his oil during all those 12-15K shifts and constant WOT.

No worries Harris, I'm sure your bike is fine!

View Poll Results: what did i do to my motor?
valve just to tight?	2	16.67%
holed a piston	1	8.33%
burnt a valve(pick one)	1	8.33%
other, cause your a newb who abuses bikes you heathen!	8	66.67%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

September 11th, 2010, 10:32 PM	#1
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	so what did i do to my motor? SOoooo i normally ride a '03 600RR, but this last summer i was more using the 89 250 i got for a deal, ive done some work to it, pod filters jet kit, complete rework of front suspension, GSXR shock in the rear, mt-75 tires, etc... i normally shift at 12-15K... i use WOT often, i took it for a track day and was out riden a few guys on faster bikes. you get the idea. i did a vavle adjustment carb tune etc.. about 1-2K miles ago, im going for a freeway slab to the parnets house, (80 mile trip, sits around 9-10K revs) all is good, on the way home.... it seems to lose some power and be running rough and the temps are abit high. sounds. poppy? i take it for a few short trips, everything seems fine... go for a ride to get on the freeway, about 5 miles in it losses power, then dies, and pegs the temp gauge. i cost off the freeway (getting a flat rear tire BTW) but because no one is picking up ther phones, i wiat 10mintues, bike cools off and starts it sounds like its running on .22lr shells, and goes another 2-3 blocks till it stalls, luckly right as si get to a parking lot, where im allowed to keep it over night. fastforward to now. bike wont start (turns over) plugs look alright(little white) but theres no puff coming form the exhaust when it cranks, and hte motor sounds as if it doesnt have **** for compression. its possible the valves are jsut stupid tight... but i set them max loss 1-2K miles ago... but the 89's are supposed to have soft valve seats.... so could that be it? or is it more likely i burnt a valve? maybe holed a piston? what your guys guess? hopefully ill have the head pulled tomorrow! -Levi

September 12th, 2010, 10:44 AM	#3
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The suspense is killing us. What will we do to pass the time? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 12th, 2010, 11:59 AM	#6
hinow41 ninjette.org member Name: Rob Location: Riverhead,Ny Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 35	Is it just one of the cylinders? __________________________________________________ "What kind of bike is that" "Ninja 250" " Come on man stop joking around"

September 13th, 2010, 02:59 PM	#9
highpsiguy ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Athens Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 1981 Honda Cx500 Custom, 2002 Ninja 250 Posts: 289 Blog Entries: 1	You sucked in a pigeon thru your pods while riding in 6th gear at 14k rpms and that brought your ninja down. Just like a big Boeing 747 hitting a flock of birds. __________________________________________________ "Rudeness is a weak persons attempt at strength."

September 12th, 2010, 10:43 AM	#2
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	so i got it found out... and well ill keep it under wraps for a few days so a few more people can take a vote -Levi

September 12th, 2010, 11:11 AM	#4
mrlmd ninjette.org sage Name: Marc Location: Crawfordville, Florida Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Suzuki S50, 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250F, 1990 Honda PC800, 2000 Yamaha TW200 Posts: 848	You ran out of gas. You couldn't have screwed up the engine by abusing it, right?

September 12th, 2010, 11:15 AM	#5
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	ROFL did not run out of gas. ill give you guys a hint. it will require motor work of some sort -levi

September 13th, 2010, 10:49 AM	#7
mrlmd ninjette.org sage Name: Marc Location: Crawfordville, Florida Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Suzuki S50, 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250F, 1990 Honda PC800, 2000 Yamaha TW200 Posts: 848	He's not going to tell us for a few more days. He really needs that time to work on it some more and try and figure it out, or have the mechanic figure it out.

September 13th, 2010, 11:24 AM	#8
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	lol, no problem is very well know, i have a short video showing the WTF moment and the motor lives about 90miles from me... so i'll only see it on the weekends ill probably spoil it sense no one seems to be guessing... shrug -Levi

September 13th, 2010, 03:53 PM	#10
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	LOL, i wish the ninja would have done 14K in 6th gear! lol ill let the cat out of the beg it appears that the low side i had did more then bend the levers... like maybe starve of oil for a spilt second.... cause it ate up a conrod bearing! when i pulled the heads, the one cylnder looked really clean around the edges, cyclnder walls were perfect! so i pulled the cylnders... everything looks normal, it would turn over easy.... hmmm get ready to spilt the casses, so i go to pull the pistons off the con rods.... oh... look the shiny piston one... has about a 1/8-1/4" of play on the crank.... so the piston was shiny and the noise was caused by the piston smacking the top of the head! so i didn't crack the case as it was getting close to lunch time... but im pretty sure the crank and con rod are shoot, ill have to check the head and piston, but they might be ok... still debating on if i want to rebuild it... ive got a spare crank and head... so.... just the disposables and the conrod if im lucky ill upload a video of the play alittle later ive gotten a lead on a 660 banshee motor.... might go that route instead

September 13th, 2010, 06:08 PM	#11
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Wow... I'm happy that didn't happen to me during my low side. Did the bike turn off once it got laid down? __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

September 14th, 2010, 09:59 PM	#12
ryu hayabusa ninjette.org member Name: ion Location: central oregon Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 ninja 250r Posts: 119	please work on your grammar. food is very hard to digest when no salt is used. show pics of said bearing when time comes. remember " pics or it didn't happen" __________________________________________________ never argue with an idiot. it only brings you down to his level, and then he beats you, because he has more experience.

September 15th, 2010, 07:36 AM	#13
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Did I miss the low-side story?? I do find it impossible to believe that a "split" second of starvation ruined a connecting rod bearing. I'm pretty sure someone forgot to check his oil during all those 12-15K shifts and constant WOT. No worries Harris, I'm sure your bike is fine! __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

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