Pod Filters

coolbreeze · February 28th, 2011, 04:44 PM

Ok, after spending a day and half removing and re-installing my carbs, yes you read that right a day and a half, I decided I would like to switch to pods. I didn't want to remove the back tire and re-installing them was a *****! One of the carb to airbox boots was harden and didn't want to go back on, even after being boiled.

I was thinking that if I switched to pods (1) it would be easier to remove the carbs if needed. (2) I could possibly create a small trunk with the new space. (3) The bike might gain another 0.10 hp

. Seriously, I'm not looking for any gains, but that would be nice. The bike is completely stock and I'm not motivated enough to really change much. I have searched the forum and found quite a few answers, but I just wanted a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th opinion. So can I just add some pod filters without having to rejet? If so, which brand would allow for this? If I have to rejet, what combo (pod/jets) would be best for a stock 2000?

Any and all help is appreciated. It's going to the shop this week for some other issues already.

scotty · February 28th, 2011, 05:00 PM

I have a pod filter and jets that came off a new gen. Not sure if it will fit on a pre gen though.

If you do install a pod filter, you will need to rejet. It is easy to work in the bike with the big air box removed!

k-os · February 28th, 2011, 05:00 PM

You'll most likely have to re-jet. Changing from the stock airbox to pods leans the mixture out a lot more. I'm not sure what the jetting would be. I've got a new-gen and still have my airbox. You might be able to find some information on the jetting database.

1994Ninja250F · February 28th, 2011, 06:01 PM

You are making a good choice, in a few different ways. The biggest advantage for me is how easy it makes carb removal/installation. I can remove then reinstall my carbs in less than 5 minutes.

Also, they do make a slight difference in the upper-range of RPM. They also give the bike a louder, "bigger" sound.

You WILL need to re-jet the carbs. If you don't your bike will likely run like sh*t, and over time, you will destroy your engine. In short, you will burn the exhaust valves and a bunch of other nasty stuff. You don't need to buy a jet kit, it's a waste of money. Depending on your elevation above sea level, my advice is to buy a pair of #108, #110, and #112 main jets. Try out each pair, and see which makes the bike run the best. Basically each jet size feeds the carbs a certain amount of fuel, which alters the air/fuel ratio. Also, buy a pack of #3 washers from the hardware store and shim the carb needles with one washer at a time until the bike runs like a champ.

Hope this helps

coolbreeze · February 28th, 2011, 07:28 PM

Thanks for the replies. The carb was already leaking fuel, so I swapped it out with another carb that I had. After the swap, no leaking fuel, but it was bogging down and would shut off. I was having the same problem with the old carb before it started leaking. I don't have much time to troubleshoot the issue now, which is why I was taking it to the shop. I figured if they are going to troubleshoot it, I may as well swap it out.

I have already checked out the Jetting Database and using the search feature, found that K&N Pods R-0990 seems to be the way to go. I wanted something small so that I could possibly have a storage area too. I do have a CycleGear and AutoZone near me, so I imagine I should be able to get everything there.

So it sounds like pods, jets, and washers should to the trick. Anything else?

Thanks.

February 28th, 2011, 05:00 PM	#2
scotty ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Scott Location: Carlise Ohio Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): Yahama v star 650 classic Posts: A lot.	I have a pod filter and jets that came off a new gen. Not sure if it will fit on a pre gen though. If you do install a pod filter, you will need to rejet. It is easy to work in the bike with the big air box removed! __________________________________________________

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February 28th, 2011, 04:44 PM	#1
coolbreeze ninjette.org sage Name: darius Location: GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2000 250 sold; 2005 636 sold. BIKELESS IN ATLANTA Posts: 753	Pod Filters Ok, after spending a day and half removing and re-installing my carbs, yes you read that right a day and a half, I decided I would like to switch to pods. I didn't want to remove the back tire and re-installing them was a *****! One of the carb to airbox boots was harden and didn't want to go back on, even after being boiled. I was thinking that if I switched to pods (1) it would be easier to remove the carbs if needed. (2) I could possibly create a small trunk with the new space. (3) The bike might gain another 0.10 hp . Seriously, I'm not looking for any gains, but that would be nice. The bike is completely stock and I'm not motivated enough to really change much. I have searched the forum and found quite a few answers, but I just wanted a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th opinion. So can I just add some pod filters without having to rejet? If so, which brand would allow for this? If I have to rejet, what combo (pod/jets) would be best for a stock 2000? Any and all help is appreciated. It's going to the shop this week for some other issues already.

February 28th, 2011, 05:00 PM	#3
k-os ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Sheboygan, WI Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 1988 Honda Hawk NT650, 1989 Honda Hawk NT650, 1997 GSXR750 Track Bike Posts: 890	You'll most likely have to re-jet. Changing from the stock airbox to pods leans the mixture out a lot more. I'm not sure what the jetting would be. I've got a new-gen and still have my airbox. You might be able to find some information on the jetting database.

February 28th, 2011, 06:01 PM	#4
1994Ninja250F ‘94 Rider Name: Colin Location: Lewis Center, Ohio Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 1994 Kawasaki Ninja EX250F Posts: 81	You are making a good choice, in a few different ways. The biggest advantage for me is how easy it makes carb removal/installation. I can remove then reinstall my carbs in less than 5 minutes. Also, they do make a slight difference in the upper-range of RPM. They also give the bike a louder, "bigger" sound. You WILL need to re-jet the carbs. If you don't your bike will likely run like sh*t, and over time, you will destroy your engine. In short, you will burn the exhaust valves and a bunch of other nasty stuff. You don't need to buy a jet kit, it's a waste of money. Depending on your elevation above sea level, my advice is to buy a pair of #108, #110, and #112 main jets. Try out each pair, and see which makes the bike run the best. Basically each jet size feeds the carbs a certain amount of fuel, which alters the air/fuel ratio. Also, buy a pack of #3 washers from the hardware store and shim the carb needles with one washer at a time until the bike runs like a champ. Hope this helps

February 28th, 2011, 07:28 PM	#5
coolbreeze ninjette.org sage Name: darius Location: GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2000 250 sold; 2005 636 sold. BIKELESS IN ATLANTA Posts: 753	Thanks for the replies. The carb was already leaking fuel, so I swapped it out with another carb that I had. After the swap, no leaking fuel, but it was bogging down and would shut off. I was having the same problem with the old carb before it started leaking. I don't have much time to troubleshoot the issue now, which is why I was taking it to the shop. I figured if they are going to troubleshoot it, I may as well swap it out. I have already checked out the Jetting Database and using the search feature, found that K&N Pods R-0990 seems to be the way to go. I wanted something small so that I could possibly have a storage area too. I do have a CycleGear and AutoZone near me, so I imagine I should be able to get everything there. So it sounds like pods, jets, and washers should to the trick. Anything else? Thanks.