2010 Ninja 250R

alcapown · September 19th, 2013, 09:31 PM

http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcd/4070690663.html

I am looking at that bike as a potential first bike for me. I think starting on a 250 is a good idea, from everything I have read. Only thing about that one is I messaged the guy and asked any issues etc, and he said only thing is a crack in front left fairing. I know nothing about motorcycles etc, is this a big issue?

I asked a follow up on how it happened, and if he could take a pic. Awaiting his reply.

Any advice etc would be greatly appreciated, thanks a lot! I look forward to joining you guys on the road!

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He replied, " The crack is from being laid down/dropped. I did it in my yard actually (first bike). I have been riding it for the past 6 months like that, as its only cosmetic. The brand new-matched OEM fairing would run around $240. If you're serious, I can send some close up pictures of the crack."

What do you guys think? Thanks.

tfkrocks · September 19th, 2013, 09:42 PM

Definitely get some pics of the damage to see if he's being truthful about it being a simple drop vs. laying it down riding. If there are major scuffs along with it, he laid it down riding and I'd be more wary of other damage. I'm already wondering if he's trying to hide something since he didn't even bother to mention the damage in the ad. Granted, the bike could still be mechanically sound. Seeing it in person is important. Simple cracks from dropping wouldn't be an issue though as it's just cosmetic and wouldn't affect the performance. Most riders have been there

alcapown · September 19th, 2013, 09:51 PM

I asked for some pics, now just waiting on those. He is kind of far away, so hopefully can see and get all info before committing etc. I would hate for my first bike to be riddled with a lot of unseeable issues to the untrained eye, thus my reason for coming here. I appreciate it, and will post pics as soon as he sends them.

tfkrocks · September 19th, 2013, 09:54 PM

I would try not to commit before actually seeing the bike and test riding it since sellers aren't always truthful or knowledgeable about their bike. Bring someone who knows about bikes to help you too if you need. Yeah it sucks to drive a distance and leave empty-handed, but it's better than ending up with something you might regret. 15,000 miles is major service mark so definitely look into service records.

alcapown · September 19th, 2013, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

I would try not to commit before actually seeing the bike and test riding it since sellers aren't always truthful or knowledgeable about their bike. Bring someone who knows about bikes to help you too if you need. Yeah it sucks to drive a distance and leave empty-handed, but it's better than ending up with something you might regret. 15,000 miles is major service mark so definitely look into service records.

I drive a truck, and was actually going to get a bike if I found one that just grabbed my attention, price point, etc before actually getting my M license. I am going to take MSF course next weekend I believe, just wanted to have a bike locked down so as soon as possible I can go riding. I personally do not know any motorcycle drivers, but maybe I could ask around. That is really good advice, thank you.

There is a honda dealership in my area selling a 2012, I believe, cbr250r with 8-9k miles for 2900. Maybe that is a safer first bike? Considering it is the dealership, I imagine they would have checked any potential issues etc . What do you think? Is that a safer option, assuming it's even still available?

tfkrocks · September 19th, 2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alcapown

I drive a truck, and was actually going to get a bike if I found one that just grabbed my attention, price point, etc before actually getting my M license. I am going to take MSF course next weekend I believe, just wanted to have a bike locked down so as soon as possible I can go riding. I personally do not know any motorcycle drivers, but maybe I could ask around. That is really good advice, thank you.

There is a honda dealership in my area selling a 2012, I believe, cbr250r with 8-9k miles for 2900. Maybe that is a safer first bike? Considering it is the dealership, I imagine they would have checked any potential issues etc . What do you think? Is that a safer option, assuming it's even still available?

Honestly it really depends. Sometimes dealerships aren't thorough at all with a used bike and you'd still be paying more just because it came from a dealership. If they're a reputable dealership though then it might be worthwhile for you to get it there for peace of mind. Just do your research.

alcapown · September 19th, 2013, 10:53 PM

Think i attached pics

alcapown · September 19th, 2013, 10:54 PM

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alcapown · September 19th, 2013, 10:55 PM

. Sry for it separating.

tfkrocks · September 19th, 2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alcapown

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I would say those cracks are not really anything to worry about. Get those service records though. The first bike I bought was just past the 15,000 mi. mark and had none of the service done. I ended up needing to replace a lot of things though that was also partially due to the age of the bike. I'm actually at that point now on my current bike and it really is a lot of stuff if someone isn't keeping up with it.

nightrider · September 19th, 2013, 11:53 PM

that's nothing...
this is when they need replacing...

Boom King · September 20th, 2013, 05:57 AM

^ That will buff right out

NevadaWolf · September 20th, 2013, 06:50 AM

It looks to me like those cracks were caused from the front turn signal pushing into the fairing. You'll find that is a common place for the fairings to show damage since those stupid lights stick out so far they punch right in on a drop. Happened on both sets of fairings I have.

If you've never ever owned a bike before, I will warn you that Growler exhaust is ***ing LOUD! See if he has the stock pipe still otherwise you may find yourself scrambling through eBay for a replacement. The ninja is very quiet normally until she's wide open, that growler is head aching inducing from start up.

And definitively everything that @tfkrocks has said.

alcapown · September 20th, 2013, 08:54 AM

15k is a major service mark, have service records?

To which he responded, " No. Other than standard maintenance (changing oil and break pads), it hasn't been in the shop."

Status quo? And also talking to this guy, http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/mcy/3989240962.html

Although I guess I'd prefer the ninja, but what do you guys think?

Thanks!

ps. just in case it is relevant, I do not think it matters honestly but figured I'd see. I am 6'3, 210. But I realize 250 etc prob isnt different in size but that much if at all from the others, just in case though lol.

alcapown · September 20th, 2013, 10:32 AM

"According to the 250 owners manual, services should be at 12k and 18k miles. When the bike got new tires in April nothing was noted as needing to be changed."
Is what he just emailed me.

NevadaWolf · September 20th, 2013, 11:06 AM

That's 12k and 18k kilometers. The bottom row is for miles.

tfkrocks · September 20th, 2013, 12:03 PM

Yeah 15k miles is definitely a service mark for this bike and it's got some big stuff like valve check/adjustment, swing arm service, steering bearings service, and more... Won't be cheap unless you can do the service yourself. See if you can get a quote for the cost of the service. If you can talk the seller down in price because of it then you could potentially get a good deal. Otherwise i'd pass.

As for the CBR250, if you like it, it might not be too bad a deal since it's still new and the only thing it might need is the first service which is mostly the oil change. However, you are on a ninja 250/300 forum so we could be biased :P I personally don't care for the CBR250.

alcapown · September 22nd, 2013, 06:15 PM

Should I put in an offer at like 2k? Seem fair?

He has since relisted on craigslist for 2500

tfkrocks · September 22nd, 2013, 06:28 PM

If it will make it about even with the prices of other 250s in the area after getting the 15k mi. service, then it could be worth it. I don't know the average prices in your area though.

September 19th, 2013, 09:31 PM	#1
alcapown ninjette.org newbie Name: Kenneth Location: Chattanooga Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): none yet, debating 250 for starter Posts: 9	2010 Ninja 250R http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcd/4070690663.html I am looking at that bike as a potential first bike for me. I think starting on a 250 is a good idea, from everything I have read. Only thing about that one is I messaged the guy and asked any issues etc, and he said only thing is a crack in front left fairing. I know nothing about motorcycles etc, is this a big issue? I asked a follow up on how it happened, and if he could take a pic. Awaiting his reply. Any advice etc would be greatly appreciated, thanks a lot! I look forward to joining you guys on the road! ---- He replied, " The crack is from being laid down/dropped. I did it in my yard actually (first bike). I have been riding it for the past 6 months like that, as its only cosmetic. The brand new-matched OEM fairing would run around $240. If you're serious, I can send some close up pictures of the crack." What do you guys think? Thanks.

September 20th, 2013, 06:50 AM	#13
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	It looks to me like those cracks were caused from the front turn signal pushing into the fairing. You'll find that is a common place for the fairings to show damage since those stupid lights stick out so far they punch right in on a drop. Happened on both sets of fairings I have. If you've never ever owned a bike before, I will warn you that Growler exhaust is ***ing LOUD! See if he has the stock pipe still otherwise you may find yourself scrambling through eBay for a replacement. The ninja is very quiet normally until she's wide open, that growler is head aching inducing from start up. And definitively everything that @tfkrocks has said. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

September 20th, 2013, 11:06 AM	#16
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	That's 12k and 18k kilometers. The bottom row is for miles. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

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September 19th, 2013, 09:42 PM	#2
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	Definitely get some pics of the damage to see if he's being truthful about it being a simple drop vs. laying it down riding. If there are major scuffs along with it, he laid it down riding and I'd be more wary of other damage. I'm already wondering if he's trying to hide something since he didn't even bother to mention the damage in the ad. Granted, the bike could still be mechanically sound. Seeing it in person is important. Simple cracks from dropping wouldn't be an issue though as it's just cosmetic and wouldn't affect the performance. Most riders have been there

September 19th, 2013, 09:51 PM	#3
alcapown ninjette.org newbie Name: Kenneth Location: Chattanooga Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): none yet, debating 250 for starter Posts: 9	I asked for some pics, now just waiting on those. He is kind of far away, so hopefully can see and get all info before committing etc. I would hate for my first bike to be riddled with a lot of unseeable issues to the untrained eye, thus my reason for coming here. I appreciate it, and will post pics as soon as he sends them.

September 19th, 2013, 09:54 PM	#4
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	I would try not to commit before actually seeing the bike and test riding it since sellers aren't always truthful or knowledgeable about their bike. Bring someone who knows about bikes to help you too if you need. Yeah it sucks to drive a distance and leave empty-handed, but it's better than ending up with something you might regret. 15,000 miles is major service mark so definitely look into service records.

September 19th, 2013, 11:53 PM	#11
nightrider ninjette.org member Name: Paul Location: Mississauga Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 51	that's nothing... this is when they need replacing...

September 20th, 2013, 05:57 AM	#12
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	^ That will buff right out

September 20th, 2013, 08:54 AM	#14
alcapown ninjette.org newbie Name: Kenneth Location: Chattanooga Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): none yet, debating 250 for starter Posts: 9	15k is a major service mark, have service records? To which he responded, " No. Other than standard maintenance (changing oil and break pads), it hasn't been in the shop." Status quo? And also talking to this guy, http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/mcy/3989240962.html Although I guess I'd prefer the ninja, but what do you guys think? Thanks! ps. just in case it is relevant, I do not think it matters honestly but figured I'd see. I am 6'3, 210. But I realize 250 etc prob isnt different in size but that much if at all from the others, just in case though lol.

September 20th, 2013, 10:32 AM	#15
alcapown ninjette.org newbie Name: Kenneth Location: Chattanooga Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): none yet, debating 250 for starter Posts: 9	"According to the 250 owners manual, services should be at 12k and 18k miles. When the bike got new tires in April nothing was noted as needing to be changed." Is what he just emailed me.

September 20th, 2013, 12:03 PM	#17
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	Yeah 15k miles is definitely a service mark for this bike and it's got some big stuff like valve check/adjustment, swing arm service, steering bearings service, and more... Won't be cheap unless you can do the service yourself. See if you can get a quote for the cost of the service. If you can talk the seller down in price because of it then you could potentially get a good deal. Otherwise i'd pass. As for the CBR250, if you like it, it might not be too bad a deal since it's still new and the only thing it might need is the first service which is mostly the oil change. However, you are on a ninja 250/300 forum so we could be biased :P I personally don't care for the CBR250.

September 22nd, 2013, 06:15 PM	#18
alcapown ninjette.org newbie Name: Kenneth Location: Chattanooga Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): none yet, debating 250 for starter Posts: 9	Should I put in an offer at like 2k? Seem fair? He has since relisted on craigslist for 2500

September 22nd, 2013, 06:28 PM	#19
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	If it will make it about even with the prices of other 250s in the area after getting the 15k mi. service, then it could be worth it. I don't know the average prices in your area though.