Difference between pregen exhausts?

CynicalC · February 10th, 2011, 11:36 PM

I haven't see this covered anywhere, even though the difference between pregen and current gen has been beat to death...

What is the difference between the 88-00 and 01-07 pregen exhausts? I see muzzy doesn't even list the 88-00 on their site anymore.

Will the 01-07 fit on a 96?

Thanks, and sorry if I missed the answer somewhere. I think I searched pretty thoroughly...

sombo · February 11th, 2011, 09:14 AM

There isn't a difference, not sure why they would even imply that there is.

Jinx250 · February 11th, 2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sombo

There isn't a difference, not sure why they would even imply that there is.

Actually, there is.

The 88 - 00 full systems would touch or come very close to touching the lower fairing, causing it to melt. Muzzy supposedly fixed the issue for the 01 - 07 systems.

CZroe · February 11th, 2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinx250

Actually, there is.

The 88 - 00 full systems would touch or come very close to touching the lower fairing, causing it to melt. Muzzy supposedly fixed the issue for the 01 - 07 systems.

That makes no sense. If Muzzy fixed the issue with their newer stock, it would be fixed for all pre-gens because the fairings are the same. It only makes sense if you are saying that the exhaust is a "XXXX year Muzzy exhaust" but naming their exhausts with a yearly issue is just silly. They should only mention the revision and advertise the widest fitment possible. Did they just happen to stop making them the same year as Kawi stopped making the bike? That only adds to the confusion.

I'm sure that you are right about the exhaust being updated, but the bike wasn't and so they still fit all F-series Ninja 250s.

CynicalC · February 11th, 2011, 01:02 PM

I called muzzy and from what I was able to gather (iPhone speaker is terrible) it had something to do with the passenger foot peg...

sombo · February 11th, 2011, 03:07 PM

That only means that muzzy changed something on their end. The bike itself never changed, the fairings from a 88 are the same as on a 2007, just different colors. They did make minor updates to the electronics of the bike though, that much is certain. I have seen junction boxes from the 90's like mine with like 4 fuses while the newer ones have nearly double. Still the same wiring and plugs, just inside the junction box they broke it up to more fuses.

I agree, that muzzy needs to make a better distinction about that. It was a mistake made on THEIR end which was corrected, not something that changed in the bike. So that 01-07 should really be stated as 88-07 version 2.

CynicalC · February 11th, 2011, 09:13 PM

Well the guy seemed really confused about my question and then even more when I told him to navigate the site to find that there's no exhaust listed for 88-07. So maybe they'll get it fixed.

Either way, I picked up a clean muzzy for $175 on ebay this morning, so I'll find out the hard way whether it fits or not.

Jinx250 · February 15th, 2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

That makes no sense. If Muzzy fixed the issue with their newer stock, it would be fixed for all pre-gens because the fairings are the same. It only makes sense if you are saying that the exhaust is a "XXXX year Muzzy exhaust" but naming their exhausts with a yearly issue is just silly. They should only mention the revision and advertise the widest fitment possible. Did they just happen to stop making them the same year as Kawi stopped making the bike? That only adds to the confusion.

I'm sure that you are right about the exhaust being updated, but the bike wasn't and so they still fit all F-series Ninja 250s.

I never said it made sense. And it was the exhaust, not the bike, that changed. Only they can explain why they named it that way, and even then, I doubt you'd find anyone knowledgeable enough to answer the question.

The only people who list the Muzzy as 88-07 are private sellers. Retial shops will make the distinction, because IIRC they are 2 different part numbers.

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Originally Posted by CynicalC

Either way, I picked up a clean muzzy for $175 on ebay this morning, so I'll find out the hard way whether it fits or not.

It's not a question of whether it fits. It's a question of how much shimming you need to do to keep it off the plastics.

CynicalC · February 15th, 2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinx250

I never said it made sense. And it was the exhaust, not the bike, that changed. Only they can explain why they named it that way, and even then, I doubt you'd find anyone knowledgeable enough to answer the question.

The only people who list the Muzzy as 88-07 are private sellers. Retial shops will make the distinction, because IIRC they are 2 different part numbers.

It's not a question of whether it fits. It's a question of how much shimming you need to do to keep it off the plastics.

Ah. Well there will be no plastics so I won't have a problem. I have the exhaust sitting here behind me already.

Jinx250 · February 18th, 2011, 09:24 AM

Then what's all the drama about? Just make sure you have clearance behind the pipe for the swingarm. If it rubs (either the pipe or the bracket) then just give the bracket a good yank outwards. Not too hard though - it'll break.

CynicalC · February 26th, 2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinx250

Then what's all the drama about? Just make sure you have clearance behind the pipe for the swingarm. If it rubs (either the pipe or the bracket) then just give the bracket a good yank outwards. Not too hard though - it'll break.

I only bought the exhaust after asking the question. I asked because I was able to get a good deal on it but had to act quick.

February 10th, 2011, 11:36 PM	#1
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Difference between pregen exhausts? I haven't see this covered anywhere, even though the difference between pregen and current gen has been beat to death... What is the difference between the 88-00 and 01-07 pregen exhausts? I see muzzy doesn't even list the 88-00 on their site anymore. Will the 01-07 fit on a 96? Thanks, and sorry if I missed the answer somewhere. I think I searched pretty thoroughly...

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February 11th, 2011, 09:14 AM	#2
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	There isn't a difference, not sure why they would even imply that there is.

February 11th, 2011, 01:02 PM	#5
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	I called muzzy and from what I was able to gather (iPhone speaker is terrible) it had something to do with the passenger foot peg...

February 11th, 2011, 03:07 PM	#6
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	That only means that muzzy changed something on their end. The bike itself never changed, the fairings from a 88 are the same as on a 2007, just different colors. They did make minor updates to the electronics of the bike though, that much is certain. I have seen junction boxes from the 90's like mine with like 4 fuses while the newer ones have nearly double. Still the same wiring and plugs, just inside the junction box they broke it up to more fuses. I agree, that muzzy needs to make a better distinction about that. It was a mistake made on THEIR end which was corrected, not something that changed in the bike. So that 01-07 should really be stated as 88-07 version 2.

February 11th, 2011, 09:13 PM	#7
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Well the guy seemed really confused about my question and then even more when I told him to navigate the site to find that there's no exhaust listed for 88-07. So maybe they'll get it fixed. Either way, I picked up a clean muzzy for $175 on ebay this morning, so I'll find out the hard way whether it fits or not.

February 18th, 2011, 09:24 AM	#10
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	Then what's all the drama about? Just make sure you have clearance behind the pipe for the swingarm. If it rubs (either the pipe or the bracket) then just give the bracket a good yank outwards. Not too hard though - it'll break.