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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:10 AM   #1
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>.< short girl learning to master the ninjette

Hi my name is Nath,
I Bought a brand new 2011 black 250 in may but just got my temp licence in july.
I put around 1000 milles so far.
I had the bike lowered by 1inch but its not low enough, I'm still having the hardest time to park it, I have so much anxiety when the bike comes to a complete stop But I love riding it!!!
I'm still searching for other options to lower it more. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

some mods I've done so far:
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I'll post the same pic I did in another thread
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #2
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Welcome!
I've heard of people shaving an inch or so off of the seat and getting soles for their shoes that add a couple of inches to their height. How tall are you?
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #3
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I've heard of people shaving an inch or so off of the seat and getting soles for their shoes that add a couple of inches to their height. How tall are you?
HI! oups I forgot to mention it, I'm 4'11 ish 5.....
dont mind the pic, camera makes me look taller....
I'll search on the shaving of the seat...but it seems already so thin...
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:41 AM   #4
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Okay ya from the picture I was thinking you were taller than that.

Here's a DIY for seat shaving: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/fo...hreadid=120053
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #5
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Okay ya from the picture I was thinking you were taller than that.

Here's a DIY for seat shaving: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/fo...hreadid=120053
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that will be my first winter project!
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #6
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I'm 5' 0" myself, and while I'm on a pre-gen, I had a similar issue. What I did was get a pair of moto boots with a bit of heel, and learned to stop and hold with one foot on the ground. It's nerve-wracking at first and a bit weird on push-off, but it feels much better and you don't need to do anything but adjust your habits. When you take it in for maintenance, ask about adjusting the suspension as well. It could be dialed up for a heavier rider.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 03:04 AM   #7
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Welcome Nath.

Here you can see what you can do for your seat http://www.kawiforums.com/ninja-250r...-seat-mod.html
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Old November 8th, 2012, 03:12 AM   #8
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Welcome again Nath!

For just casual riding, you can lower the bike more than 1 inch but keep the bike in balance. If you lower the rear 3 inches you have to address the front as well.

If you shave the seat, not only thickness but width as well. For my wife, width did the trick.

And finding boots with top notch protection with "thicker than average" soles is hard but they are out there. I have learned a shoe repair shop can resole a boot with a thicker sole but not sure of the costs.

I still think that pic is cool and unique. Enjoy your time here and don't be afraid to ask questions.

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Old November 8th, 2012, 05:48 AM   #10
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Old November 8th, 2012, 07:13 AM   #11
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Welcome aboard! I'm a bit of a shorty myself, but not to that extent. As other members have mentioned, I've noticed that seat width or the width of the bike makes a big difference.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 07:28 AM   #12
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welcome nath!

yeah, from your pic, you seemed taller lol.

be sure to gear up, you're beautiful, lets keep it that way
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Old November 8th, 2012, 08:47 AM   #14
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Thanks everyone,
I'll look into shaving the seat height and width this winter.
I do have all my riding gear, helmet boots gloves pant and jacket
I just wore something different for the photoshoot...
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Old November 8th, 2012, 08:52 AM   #15
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I'm 5' 0" myself, and while I'm on a pre-gen, I had a similar issue. What I did was get a pair of moto boots with a bit of heel, and learned to stop and hold with one foot on the ground. It's nerve-wracking at first and a bit weird on push-off, but it feels much better and you don't need to do anything but adjust your habits. When you take it in for maintenance, ask about adjusting the suspension as well. It could be dialed up for a heavier rider.
Yea Its nerve-wracking!!! thats why I have so much anxiety when I have to come to a full stop.
I purchased these boots but I'm still missing a good inch
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Old November 9th, 2012, 12:20 AM   #16
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Old November 9th, 2012, 03:11 AM   #17
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Yea Its nerve-wracking!!! thats why I have so much anxiety when I have to come to a full stop.
I purchased these boots but I'm still missing a good inch
Honestly I think at this point it's just you being nervous about the bike. Having it comfortable is important and I was adamant against trying the one-foot-down thing but it's easy once you can do it. The more you change up your bike, the more you'll have to relearn the little changes. Lowering kits already affect handling and clearance.

Stopping was the hardest thing for me and really still is, but if you're gonna practice it, may as well learn the least time consuming and cheapest way. xP
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Old November 9th, 2012, 05:51 AM   #18
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Yea Its nerve-wracking!!! thats why I have so much anxiety when I have to come to a full stop.
I purchased these boots but I'm still missing a good inch
Those just keep you on your tip toes all the time.....

Corbin seat help with my wife, lot more comfortable too.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 07:58 AM   #19
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This topic has been discussed a thousand times, but seeing as you're new here I can point you to someone who has done extensive research on the problems and benefits of lowering your bike.

You want to talk to @Minikin_Jo . She is also vertically challenged. She might have some great recommendations for you.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 08:00 AM   #20
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Welcome!! I'm pretty short too, 5'3". Kept mine at stock height and can put balls of my feet down on both sides, but I find it honestly easier and WAY more comfortable to keep my right foot on the peg/brake and flat foot on the left side. Once you get used to that, you are pretty much golden.

Also, the longer you ride the stronger your legs will get inevitably. When I first bought mine, it felt sooo heavy. Now, I feel like I can manhandle it. Don't worry about parking the bike, you either have to get creative parking, or get off and push, even though it looks weird. No shame in it, I do it all the time. Looks more silly to slip and drop your bike trying to backpedal than to get off and push it.

Parking tips that I use..try often as possible to pull through spaces so your front end is facing out, so no backpedaling involved. If you do need to backpedal, try to find an area that is very slightly downhill so the bike will work with you to back in. If it's uphill behind you, put the kickstand down, get off and push. If you are parking on the street, if there's enough space, try to pull in normally and then turn and stick bike out a bit back towards the roadway. That'll at least get you somewhat oriented and then you can quickly hop off and push if necessary.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:02 AM   #21
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thanks all,
I will try using one foot on the ground, but I also would feel more comfortable if I can get 1 or 2 inch extra.
I will look into that corbin seat that everyone is talking about.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:10 AM   #22
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Hiya fellow vertically efficient rider
I'm 5'2", and I can echo a lot of what the others have said -- esp. the part about most of it being a new rider. I actually backed out of having my ninja lowered and am still riding stock and after a while 'figured it out'. A corbin seat is on my 'todo' list though, just for extra comfort.

You may also like this youtube video I saw when I was considering what to do with my new ninja (and it is by a fellow ninjette-r as well):

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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #23
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thanks all,
I will try using one foot on the ground, but I also would feel more comfortable if I can get 1 or 2 inch extra.
I will look into that corbin seat that everyone is talking about.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:29 AM   #24
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And to not seem like a douchebag, here is some actual helpful info per @Minikin_Jo:

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Normally when I ride, I NOTICE the slopes and lean towards the high side as I approach a stop so the weight of the bike doesn't go to the low side as it did in this case. As we came around the corner and to the stop sign, it did not appear there was much of a slope at all to me. It was not until I picked myself up off the ground and looked behind me, did I realize that the ground went downhill and to the right.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 12:27 PM   #25
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exactly lol. on the way home there's one spot that comes around a downhill curve which falls inwards to the left and stops at a traffic light while slanted..it's really weird but I lean against the curve otherwise if I stop it's a longggg reach to the ground hahah
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Old November 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM   #26
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Hiya fellow vertically efficient rider
I'm 5'2", and I can echo a lot of what the others have said -- esp. the part about most of it being a new rider. I actually backed out of having my ninja lowered and am still riding stock and after a while 'figured it out'. A corbin seat is on my 'todo' list though, just for extra comfort.

You may also like this youtube video I saw when I was considering what to do with my new ninja (and it is by a fellow ninjette-r as well):
thanks for the link!

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Old November 9th, 2012, 02:47 PM   #27
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #28
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There's a couple of things you can do to try & improve your confidence on the bike.

You can avoid coming to a complete stop by timing your arrival at the lights & rolling slowly up to them if you have to (not really the best idea to practise in traffic), when you have to stop left foot down & flick the bars left to full lock, the bike will naturally lean left. To take off again point the bars forward & go, the bike will stabilise once it's moving.

I'm 5'7 with a 28" inseam & I can handle my mate's F650GS (which has a 33 inch high seat) without much of a problem.

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I already have a lowering kit that lowers it by 1inch.
How much does your kit lowers it by?
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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:28 AM   #32
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Don't know.

Just found that post from @cuong-nutz and forwarded to you.

Sorry, didn't notice yours was already lowered.
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I'm 5'7 with a 28" inseam & I can handle my mate's F650GS (which has a 33 inch high seat) without much of a problem.
That can't be right?? I'm 5'1 with about 26-27" inseam. LOL Are your legs super short?

If I sit on a 32.7" high seat I can barely touch my left big toe while the bike is on the kick stand. I'd never be able to stand the bike to take it off the kick stand.

My 250 was lowered 2" so it was approx 28.5" seat height. I could flat foot my left or put both balls of my feet down.
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Welcome Nath.

A former co-worker of mine was only 4'8" and he rode a 600cc bike. Every time I saw him on a bike I was amazed how someone so short had no problems riding let alone keeping the bike upright. He prolly got annoyed with me constantly saying, "How cool it was for him to ride"...like he was a freak of nature or something. LOL

Then I saw this guy and I was like that's the last time I complain about being too short.

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HOLY COW OMG THAT IS SO AWESOME!!!! I mount a bicycle like that but never a motorcycle!!!
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lowering link kit

Hi, I am 5 foot, with short legs and ride a 2007 Ninja. My husband put on the lowering links from Soupy's.
http://www.soupysperformance.com/cat...00/5405407.htm
This kit lets you lower the bike up to 4 inches.

If you lower the bike more than an inch you will want to adjust the front bars to compensate. Soupy's also sells that kit:
http://www.soupysperformance.com/cat...00/5527850.htm

This made a big difference to me, allowing the balls of my feet to touch when I come to a stop.
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I'd also work on stopping with just one foot down. I never take my right foot off the pegs (mostly because I can only touch my tippy toes), at first I was a little nervous, but now it feels 100% stable.
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