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Old March 13th, 2019, 10:40 AM   #1
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Body Position and Stability

In one of Keith Code's articles titled, Body position, he talks about his first "law" of body positioning which is "Stability Comes in Pairs. Bike and rider stability are always paired―rider instability transfers directly to the bike."

What do you think he means when he says that rider instability transfers directly into the bike? What kinds of things can show up in someones riding if they are unstable on their bike?

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Old March 13th, 2019, 02:14 PM   #2
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I heart Misti's posts. Always thought-provoking.

I'd say that if you're unstable on the bike, you'll be putting unwanted inputs into it and upsetting the chassis.

It's not good to upset the chassis, for it will bite thee and could very well ruin thy day.

Or in plain English, when you're unstable, you'll cause the bike to be unstable.
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Old March 13th, 2019, 06:36 PM   #3
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I got sent pretty far down the rabbit hole with this post

From the newbie rider standpoint, the article drove home what I had already found I was going to have to dive into in the next week or so as it is starting to warm up.

The five distinct ingredients of body position. Number 1 and 5 are linked together for me. Putting on my adjustable levers asap so I have a better wrist position, finding the right rearsets (Lightech is supposed to be top notch, has oodles of adjustment options, is compatible with the ABS, and is cheaper than Vortex) so my lower body is more comfortable and locked on to the bike, and getting back to a workout routine after being lazy since Christmas. All of that will help with number 4, mastering the core skills of riding well.

I have had way too much time to think and read these last two weeks....
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Old March 19th, 2019, 12:48 PM   #4
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I heart Misti's posts. Always thought-provoking.

I'd say that if you're unstable on the bike, you'll be putting unwanted inputs into it and upsetting the chassis.

It's not good to upset the chassis, for it will bite thee and could very well ruin thy day.

Or in plain English, when you're unstable, you'll cause the bike to be unstable.
Awwwwww, thanks!!! That's always the idea, to create thought provoking posts to get riders to really think about their own riding and how to make it better.

Sounds like a perfect explanation to me....when the rider is unstable you cause the bike to be unstable too.

So then the next question, is how to create rider stability? What kinds of things can you do to ensure that you as the rider is the most stable on the bike?
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I got sent pretty far down the rabbit hole with this post

From the newbie rider standpoint, the article drove home what I had already found I was going to have to dive into in the next week or so as it is starting to warm up.

The five distinct ingredients of body position. Number 1 and 5 are linked together for me. Putting on my adjustable levers asap so I have a better wrist position, finding the right rearsets (Lightech is supposed to be top notch, has oodles of adjustment options, is compatible with the ABS, and is cheaper than Vortex) so my lower body is more comfortable and locked on to the bike, and getting back to a workout routine after being lazy since Christmas. All of that will help with number 4, mastering the core skills of riding well.

I have had way too much time to think and read these last two weeks....
Sounds like you have lots to work on too!
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So then the next question, is how to create rider stability? What kinds of things can you do to ensure that you as the rider is the most stable on the bike?
Use repeatable reference points on the bike. I do this when talking to new riders about BP at the track all the time. It's one of the few little contributions I can make.

For me it's a checklist that happens almost by muscle memory:
  • Outside forearm on outside edge of tank.
  • Outside titty on inside edge of tank.
  • Visualize the gas cap under your armpit.
  • Outside knee in solid contact with frame/tank (my legs are too short to drive that knee up into the tank recess).
  • Screwdriver grip on inside hand.
  • Visualize back of inside hand brushing your cheek or ear.
  • Visualize sternum pointing at centerline of bike (drop the inside shoulder).
  • Inside toe on the end of the peg, heel driven into the heel guard/on the swingarm.
  • Instep of outside boot on the peg.
  • Inside edge of seat in the center of your unmentionables area.

Not all of this happens at once, of course.

Approaching the corner, the butt shifts and feet get positioned in keeping with need to shift.

At tip-in, torso and shoulder drop and the other stuff falls into place.
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