September 4th, 2012, 11:35 AM | #1 |
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2013 Ninja 300 Price Guess Game
Alright, new ninja is coming out with **** tons of bells and whistles!
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=558738 The rules are simple, guess what the bike's MSRP will be priced at for both ABS and non ABS models (I'm only counting the U.S. guess w/e you want though) I'm taking all bets! Winning pays 2:1, losers forfeit their pink slip!! GAME ON
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September 4th, 2012, 11:36 AM | #2 |
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Alright, I'm saying $5,199 non $5,599 ABS
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September 4th, 2012, 11:37 AM | #3 |
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I'm betting $5299 non-abs, $5799 with abs
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September 4th, 2012, 11:43 AM | #4 |
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Max $4.5K
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September 4th, 2012, 12:00 PM | #5 |
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$4399 standard
$4899 abs |
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September 4th, 2012, 12:03 PM | #6 |
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I've also seen on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDQOUGHAIjs the 2013 Ninja 400R being released in the US as well. Not sure if this has been posted or not but I'd rather the 400 instead of the 300. But I think the 300 will be priced at $4599 non-abs and $5099 for abs.
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September 4th, 2012, 12:06 PM | #7 |
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^^ that video is full of sh!t. sorry, but I don't think that's reputable, nor do I think it makes sense for kawasaki to sell both of those bikes here.
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September 4th, 2012, 12:18 PM | #8 |
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I'll go with
$4499 non-ABS $4999 ABS Add $300-350 for SE color If they start in the $5k range then it'll be too much for an entry level bike ($5500-$6500 OTD) -- the CBR250R is $4099 ($4599 ABS) and people are buying them slightly below MSRP
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September 4th, 2012, 12:20 PM | #9 |
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are you kidding? I checked 4dealers and i couldnt get my '12 for less than 7kOTD. Surely this will be quite a bit more.
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September 4th, 2012, 12:24 PM | #10 |
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Current MSRP is $4199 ($4449 SE) so if dealers are price gouging in your area then thats a different story
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September 4th, 2012, 01:53 PM | #11 |
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I think the very lowest it will go for is $4,999. Take the current price of $4,199, then add a larger engine, EFI, redesigned body work, digital guages, slipper clutch, their FCC thingy (no ****in clue what that is) With all that in consideration anything under 5k is wishful thinking.
As a good measure look at the 2008 redesign. They changed the fairings and suspension, tire size but used the same engine and same carbs (I think?). Just doing that upped the price by $500
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September 4th, 2012, 01:55 PM | #12 |
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$4499 non ABS, $4999 ABS.
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September 4th, 2012, 01:58 PM | #13 |
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Yall are really optimistic haha. At least we can all agree on one thing, ABS will cost $500
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September 4th, 2012, 02:14 PM | #14 |
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msrp for the 2013 250R my guess,
$4,199 non abs $4,599 abs. they have to still compete with the honda which offer theres around that. |
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September 4th, 2012, 02:24 PM | #15 |
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I think it'll be slightly more expensive than the CBR250R, but not more than $5000. The video said it was priced for a price conscious market.
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September 4th, 2012, 02:34 PM | #16 |
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I'm guessing 4299 + 500 for ABS. Optimism fo sho...
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September 4th, 2012, 02:40 PM | #17 |
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I'll take your 06 ninja now
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then the price would go up anyway. add 300-400 to your price.
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September 4th, 2012, 03:02 PM | #19 |
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A 300cc twin doesn't compete with a 250cc single, just not even the same league especially when both are EFI
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September 4th, 2012, 03:16 PM | #20 |
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September 4th, 2012, 03:40 PM | #21 | |
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if the 300 cost the same as a 250, no one would buy the 250. why not get the next level up. the demand would drive up the price of the 300. the market will always balance itself.
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September 4th, 2012, 03:44 PM | #22 |
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i dont think it too far fetched as long as it just the motor and gear being changed out.
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September 4th, 2012, 04:29 PM | #23 |
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I doubt that ninja 300 is gonna show up in the USA, unless it's taking place of the ninja 250. In that case, the price can't be much more than the current 250. It has to remain competitively priced against it's competitors.
On another note, the ninja 400 is probably not gonna show up in the USA with 300 in the lineup. It would make more sense for the ninja 250 to remain a 250, with a ninja 400 in the lineup. |
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September 4th, 2012, 04:34 PM | #24 |
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Exactly what I was guessing.
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September 4th, 2012, 05:42 PM | #25 | |
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There is no 2013 250
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September 4th, 2012, 06:43 PM | #26 |
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If it's over 5 grand that will be a huge test to the theory that the US market is price obsessed and won't tolerate an expensive small 250. VStar 250, TU250X, CBR250R, Ninja250R, Rebel 250 - all of these are priced at 4300 +- 200 for a reason.
Let's be honest, any bike with under 50 HP will feel like an anemic dog compared to any other bike in the showroom. It's going to take more then a few extra CC to change the character of the Ninjette. If all you care about is corners then even still the lighter bike will be more fun even a Rebel 250 can take corners at 60+. I don't see Kawasaki pricing this above 5 grand. |
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September 4th, 2012, 06:47 PM | #27 |
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It's only anemic on the highway.
A Honda Rebel can't lean for crap. |
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September 4th, 2012, 06:52 PM | #28 | |
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A Honda Rebel does just fine in sweeping S turns. Let's be real, any two random motorcycle riders probably wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between them in normal city driving. If this starts at over 5000 I really think they priced themselves out of the market for this, including dealer fees, tax, etc. It will be an interesting experiment at least. If it succeeds maybe we'll see some actual high spec 250s, Aprilia RS 250 anyone? |
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September 4th, 2012, 07:11 PM | #30 |
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7100$ aus
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September 4th, 2012, 07:50 PM | #31 |
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Alright you're looking at a honda 250 and a ninja 300. For $800 more you can get a 300cc twin with about 40% more hp, a slipper clutch, some other FCC bullshit, and it looks just like a zx6r so no one will make fun of your small weiner! Who wouldn't do that?
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September 4th, 2012, 08:52 PM | #32 |
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September 4th, 2012, 09:00 PM | #33 |
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$4,499 non-abs
$4,999 abs |
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September 4th, 2012, 09:11 PM | #34 | |
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Dangerous to play the "another few hundred" dollar game with motorcycles, because you can easily end up on some outrageous machines. 250s work because the resale value is so strong, it's easy to pass them along when people outgrow them, even though in many cases people end up keeping them. A 250 starting about 5000 will be interesting to watch. |
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September 4th, 2012, 09:16 PM | #35 |
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Replace the words hundred with thousand and you would be correct. A 650 is about $2000 away a 600 is $5000 away
But either way RIP cbr250
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September 4th, 2012, 10:30 PM | #36 |
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No one has a crystal ball. If the price is really above 5 grand before dealer fees/tax, I would say the general public will place the Ninja 300 in a higher class then the CBR250 and they might not even be cross shopped.
Even if they price it competitive (4999) how many 250 buyers really look at the spec sheet before buying? I wonder how much the numbers really matter. If you wanted a sport bike in the 250 class, you had one option up until last year. Honda has a huge, huge following of brand loyal customers whether it makes sense or not. A huge number of 600RR riders are just Honda fan boys and never even considered the R6 or GSX600R. Unfortunately Kawasaki doesn't have that same base of brand loyalty in the automotive world, but they do have it with almost 30 years of entry level Ninja 250 development. They may be slowly shooting themselves in the foot with the constant price creep and distancing themselves from the entry level market. Will be an interesting battle to watch, I am at least looking forward to the new batch of 250s. |
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September 5th, 2012, 02:14 AM | #37 |
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Just talked to the dealer and he said it's roughly going to cost $6800 Here in Aus. Btw its for the 300 FI version...
So looks like you yanks are getting the FI version aswel yeeew! |
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September 5th, 2012, 02:43 AM | #38 |
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I'm guessing $6990 non abs here in 'Straya.
$1000 more than the superceeded gen. |
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September 5th, 2012, 07:38 AM | #39 |
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I'm with Jiggles, I don't see this going under 5K MSRP.
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September 5th, 2012, 08:43 AM | #40 |
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Maybe here, but the US is only a fraction of the world market.
I predict that the CBR250 will have a run of maybe five years before they withdraw it from the US market. The bike will live on and be very successful overseas. Honda didn't build that bike for us. They built it for the teeming masses on the other side of the planet. A reliable, simple thumper engine is a real plus over there and the extra power doesn't really do all that much given the state of the roads and traffic. The priorities are different than they are for us. |
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