No bikes for kids???

zartan · February 13th, 2009, 12:00 AM

Ok geez .....lets take away a form of recreation for these kids and just buy them cases of spray paint. Is this for real???

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...&article=35563

and more
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382...cle-Sales.aspx

Alex · February 13th, 2009, 01:03 AM

It's absurd. I can't believe it got this far without more outcry. Where was the AMA a few months ago when this became known?

BlueTyke · February 13th, 2009, 07:22 AM

That...is... rediculous...

xTKx · February 13th, 2009, 08:38 AM

Not just bikes, but ATV's too.... I think I might be writing a letter...

TnNinjaGirl · February 13th, 2009, 10:36 AM

Are kids still allowed to ride in cars? I imagine the lead content in those puppies is pretty high too.

Broom · February 13th, 2009, 01:05 PM

go here and fill in your name to send a letter to your congressman. takes 2 seconds.

http://www.tomself.com/

kkim · February 13th, 2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broom

go here and fill in your name to send a letter to your congressman. takes 2 seconds.

http://www.tomself.com/

done!

kazam58 · February 13th, 2009, 01:27 PM

That is @#$%ing ridiculous. I'm sorry I don't have a more eloquent way of putting it. Maybe we're all supposed to be excessively inactive and partake in nice sports...like chess or golf. Though I'm sure there's some kind of danger involved with swinging a club that they'll ban that soon as well.

Broom · February 13th, 2009, 01:39 PM

kids are more likley to chew on some lead tainted chess pieces than the rim of a dirtbike....

dirtbikes just got covered by a blanket rule. its stupid, but thats what happens. what really sucks is that we ride and race kids bikes! not to mention the example in Cycle News about not being able to buy a throttle tube for a KLR650 because its the same one used on a kx65 ("kids" dirtbike).

BlueTyke · February 13th, 2009, 01:50 PM

Signed!

xTKx · February 13th, 2009, 02:09 PM

Signed it...

though I tried to take a look at his website and it seemed like every link I tried to click on was "broken" according to Google....

ninjabrewer · February 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM

signed

OldGuy · February 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM

Done - now if we can get somebody in the Chicago area to start sending them in - oh wait

Sailariel · February 13th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broom

go here and fill in your name to send a letter to your congressman. takes 2 seconds.

http://www.tomself.com/

Broom, Thanks for taking the time to set up that link for us. I think that EVERYONE on this forum should respond. Thanks for thinking of our kids.

HKr1 · February 13th, 2009, 03:38 PM

Our country is going down the crapper

Sailariel · February 13th, 2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

It's absurd. I can't believe it got this far without more outcry. Where was the AMA a few months ago when this became known?

ALEX, First Dude and computer wiz of the forum. Could you put out an alert on this forum to those who have not responded to Broom`s link?.I certainly will e-mail the AMA and express my concern. Whoopie--The forum is going political (with only issues that affect motorcyclists)

zartan · February 13th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Thanks guys for responding.. It is insane

noche_caliente · February 13th, 2009, 09:26 PM

From my mom's forum - it's been suspended for a year:
The CPSIA Manditory Testing & Certification Has Been Suspended for a Year

http://blog.buyhandmade.org/?p=190

Good news!

Alex · February 13th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Nope, it actually didn't help the powersports folks at all:

http://dealernewsblog.wordpress.com/...p-powersports/

Though the testing and certification was pushed back a year, those that sell products over the lead limit after the 2/10/09 deadline that passed a few days ago are still breaking the law.

Partial quote from that link:

Quote:

Here’s the situation, as explained to me by the CPSC today:

ALL PRODUCTS SOLD BY DEALERS INTENDED FOR CHILDREN 12 AND YOUNGER MUST COMPLY WITH THE 30 YEAR OLD LEAD PAINT STANDAND AND THE NEW TOTAL LEAD CONTENT LIMITS STARTING ON FEB. 10.

DEALERS ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO TEST, BUT THEY MUST ENSURE THAT THE PRODUCTS THEY SELL TO KIDS ARE SAFE AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

In a nutshell, if a retailer has a product made for kids that does not meet the lead content rule, she will be breaking the law if she sells the product after Feb. 10, 2009. These products can include machines such as kid’s ATVs, dirt bikes, motorcycles, and snowmobiles, as well as collectible toy units, helmets, parts, garments and accessories.

Tigerpaw · February 14th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Has anyone been to a dealer and asked if they could still buy one?

Alex · February 14th, 2009, 12:37 PM

Dealers are posting up on other boards saying they've had to pull all affected stock off the floor.

OldGuy · February 14th, 2009, 12:59 PM

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo
Walt Kelly - 1970

Broom · February 14th, 2009, 03:41 PM

seems like theres gotta be a good loop hole in there somewhere....

TnNinjaGirl · February 14th, 2009, 07:45 PM

Signed!! How ridiculous. I've been informing all of my other non-biker friends and they have concluded that Congress is starting to push it a little bit in the liberties they take on our behalf.

ninjabrewer · February 15th, 2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broom

seems like theres gotta be a good loop hole in there somewhere....

customer: excuse me but I am looking for a small dirt bike, the kind that kids use to ride.

Salesman: I'm sorry but we are unable to sell them to kids anymore, they have too much lead in them.

customer: but...but..I'm not buying it for my kids, I want it for me.

salesman: you are a bit big for those small bikes, don't you think?

customer: well........no.....I'm just learning, and when I fall over I don't want to fall very far. I might get hurt.

salesman: How do I know that you are just saying that to get around the law to get one for your kids.

customer: I give you my word....my word as a biker that I will not give it to any kid. (whispers under breath, I will only loan it to them

salesman: OK, lets go do the papers.

February 13th, 2009, 12:00 AM	#1
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	No bikes for kids??? Ok geez .....lets take away a form of recreation for these kids and just buy them cases of spray paint. Is this for real??? http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...&article=35563 and more http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382...cle-Sales.aspx __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

February 13th, 2009, 01:03 AM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	It's absurd. I can't believe it got this far without more outcry. Where was the AMA a few months ago when this became known? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

February 13th, 2009, 07:22 AM	#3
BlueTyke So slow I'm first! Name: Sunny Location: San Jose, CA Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 06 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 10	That...is... rediculous... __________________________________________________ Learn from the mistakes of others, you cannot make them all yourself. Save yourself the trouble and Learn.

February 13th, 2009, 01:05 PM	#6
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	go here and fill in your name to send a letter to your congressman. takes 2 seconds. http://www.tomself.com/ __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

February 13th, 2009, 01:39 PM	#9
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	kids are more likley to chew on some lead tainted chess pieces than the rim of a dirtbike.... dirtbikes just got covered by a blanket rule. its stupid, but thats what happens. what really sucks is that we ride and race kids bikes! not to mention the example in Cycle News about not being able to buy a throttle tube for a KLR650 because its the same one used on a kx65 ("kids" dirtbike). __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

February 13th, 2009, 08:38 AM	#4
xTKx Finally! Name: Tony Location: Central TX Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Red 250R Posts: 420 Blog Entries: 4	Not just bikes, but ATV's too.... I think I might be writing a letter...

February 13th, 2009, 10:36 AM	#5
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	Are kids still allowed to ride in cars? I imagine the lead content in those puppies is pretty high too.

February 13th, 2009, 01:27 PM	#8
kazam58 Sarcasm: Yea that'll work Name: Andy Location: Essex Jct, VT Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 330	That is @#$%ing ridiculous. I'm sorry I don't have a more eloquent way of putting it. Maybe we're all supposed to be excessively inactive and partake in nice sports...like chess or golf. Though I'm sure there's some kind of danger involved with swinging a club that they'll ban that soon as well.

February 13th, 2009, 01:50 PM	#10
BlueTyke So slow I'm first! Name: Sunny Location: San Jose, CA Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 06 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 10	Signed! __________________________________________________ Learn from the mistakes of others, you cannot make them all yourself. Save yourself the trouble and Learn.

February 13th, 2009, 02:09 PM	#11
xTKx Finally! Name: Tony Location: Central TX Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Red 250R Posts: 420 Blog Entries: 4	Signed it... though I tried to take a look at his website and it seemed like every link I tried to click on was "broken" according to Google....

February 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM	#12
ninjabrewer dirty old man Name: Chris Location: Hazel Green, AL Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Blue '08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	done signed __________________________________________________ Death tugs at my ear and says, "Live, I am coming." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894) www.friendsofsanonofre.org

February 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM	#13
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Done - now if we can get somebody in the Chicago area to start sending them in - oh wait __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

February 13th, 2009, 03:38 PM	#15
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Our country is going down the crapper

February 13th, 2009, 05:17 PM	#17
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	Thanks guys for responding.. It is insane __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

February 13th, 2009, 09:26 PM	#18
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	From my mom's forum - it's been suspended for a year: The CPSIA Manditory Testing & Certification Has Been Suspended for a Year http://blog.buyhandmade.org/?p=190 Good news!

February 14th, 2009, 12:37 PM	#21
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Dealers are posting up on other boards saying they've had to pull all affected stock off the floor. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

February 14th, 2009, 12:59 PM	#22
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo Walt Kelly - 1970 __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

February 14th, 2009, 03:41 PM	#23
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	seems like theres gotta be a good loop hole in there somewhere.... __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

February 14th, 2009, 07:45 PM	#24
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	Signed!! How ridiculous. I've been informing all of my other non-biker friends and they have concluded that Congress is starting to push it a little bit in the liberties they take on our behalf.

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