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Old September 19th, 2012, 04:03 PM   #1
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Popping the clutch

Yeah, more questions.

Popping the clutch. What exactly is this and when should you NOT do it? As noted in my other thread, I'm about 500 miles in on my 250 and I'm still playing around and getting comfortable with various things.

I've noticed I've become really good (?) at shifting quickly. When I first started riding, all I had read and watched was that you need to let out the clutch slowly and smoothly. My gear changes were pretty pathetic because I would hold in the clutch and sloooowly let it out, hold it and then let go.

Now, it's clutch in, kick up, throttle on, clutch out almost all in one motion. It feels smooth and never feels like it upsets the bike. Am I "popping" the clutch doing this? Am I NOT supposed to be shifting that quickly?

Is popping the clutch really only if you are in neutral, you rev up and then let out the clutch too fast?

I guess what I'm getting out is it proper for me to be doing quick clutch releases when shifting as long as I'm already in first gear?
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Old September 19th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #2
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dropping or popping the clutch means going from fully depressed, to no pressure and letting the clutch engage as quickly as the clutch springs will allow.

never ever pop the clutch.
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Old September 19th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #3
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Old September 19th, 2012, 04:15 PM   #4
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Old September 19th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #5
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.........I guess what I'm getting out is it proper for me to be doing quick clutch releases when shifting as long as I'm not already in first gear?
Clutch-in can be done as fast as you want.

Clutch-out should be tailored, regarding quickness, according to the relative speeds of engine and rear wheel.

Think of it as a coupling between crankshaft and transmission, that you can modulate more or less in order to make it more or less flexible.

Smoothness is the key, as Alex said.
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Old September 19th, 2012, 07:30 PM   #6
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popping the clutch is more of a trick. and it refers to doin wheelies. especialy wuth these bikes u realy gotta ramp up the revs n pop it to get the front weel off the ground.
but yea...dont do it. jus keep riding safe
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Old October 6th, 2012, 04:14 AM   #7
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Do this this weekend:
1. Pull in the clutch with the very tip of your fingers
2. Rev the engine until it is banging off the rev limiter
3. Then slide the tips of your fingers off the lever, allowing the clutch to return to its normal position as fast as it can
4. Enjoy the aftermath

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Old October 6th, 2012, 08:15 AM   #9
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Now that you have the clutch upshift working well try the clutchless upshift (never clutchless downshift)

Once you're in 2nd or higher (it can be a long way up through neutral...)

Preload the shifter by putting a little pressure on it, roll slightly off & back on the throttle (like blipping it but going the other way) once you've rolled off the bike should shift up smoothly.

It may take a couple of attempts to get the initial feel for it

There is another method which involves a sharper flick up timed with a sharper roll off & back on but that's something to pick up once you have the basics down.


I don't want this one to become another discussion on the merits of clutchless shifting.


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Old October 6th, 2012, 08:57 AM   #10
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It is bloody fun.


Do this this weekend:
1. Pull in the clutch with the very tip of your fingers
2. Rev the engine until it is banging off the rev limiter
3. Then slide the tips of your fingers off the lever, allowing the clutch to return to its normal position as fast as it can
4. Enjoy the aftermath

Not a very good explanation for new rider with only 500 miles experience.

Let me add;

5. Hold on for dear life.
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Not a very good explanation for new rider with only 500 miles experience.

Let me add;

5. Hold on for dear life.
you forgot:

6. pick up your looped bike out of the gutter
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Old October 10th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #12
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Old October 10th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #13
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crashed that 636 yet, nicky?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 03:25 PM   #14
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7) Proceed to coroner.
how do you pick up the looped bike?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #15
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It's a 600...no not yet...had a few little incidents that could have been worse lol

To pick up looped bike...call friend, and tell him to do it.
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