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Old May 17th, 2010, 07:20 PM   #81
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A modulator will eat filament bulbs much faster, get a RED 1157-R18-T from superbrightleds.com, $18 no more bulb problems
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Old May 18th, 2010, 10:45 AM   #82
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A modulator will eat filament bulbs much faster, get a RED 1157-R18-T from superbrightleds.com, $18 no more bulb problems
Do you run with these?? Does it still illuminate the reflective housing? Any pictures by any chance?
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Old May 19th, 2010, 01:34 AM   #83
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A modulator will eat filament bulbs much faster, get a RED 1157-R18-T from superbrightleds.com, $18 no more bulb problems
I actually thought about this yesterday. which lead me to the question; Will my modulator work the same with an LED tail light replacement? And if so....Now which replacement should I choose? For me it should be one that utilizes the housings reflectors. Any advice/pics? Anyone?
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Old May 19th, 2010, 02:46 PM   #84
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Ill just go to Autozone and buy another Pair (2) of 1157's for $3.29!

Once 5 years go by, it'll Total $18.00 on bulbs. If I ever upgrade to LED taillight and rear turnsignals and front LED turn signals, then a light bulb like you mention, would be ideal.

So till then...
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 07:18 PM   #85
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I don't run a 1157-R18-T bulb, I got one of their older 3W Luxeon bulbs a year ago and am very happy with the light output. The new 1157-R18-T is brighter and uses more reflector. That's what I would get now.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 08:46 PM   #86
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Lightbulb

I'm looking to add the Whelen TIR3 Super LED that the cops use on their cars and motorcycles (as an additional to the brake light). These are 3rd gen LED technology and are super bright in daylight. Seems like they have the flasher integrated.

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Old May 23rd, 2010, 04:22 AM   #87
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Not sure if it's legal to have flashing constant like that
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Old October 28th, 2010, 07:19 AM   #88
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I came across this link, and quickly decided to try one out. It's a "no-cut" flasher for the 2008 Ninja 250R's rear brake light. Basically, you take off your rear seat, you unplug the brake light harness, and plug this gadget in between, you stick the small unit into an empty spot with the included 2-sided tape, and you're done. I just finished installing it, it works exactly as described, and is a piece of cake to install (and uninstall, if you like).

You have a choice of having it flash about 5 times then go solid, or about 10 times and go solid, by cutting the green wire. I've attached a PDF of the ebay auction which includes detailed pics. Looking at the web page, it appears that you don't have to "buy it now" through ebay, you can just paypal him directly from the website.
Does this have a reset period? Or does it flash every time you brake? Read the webpage and didn't find anything about this. If I'm in stop and go traffic, will it be flashing "all the time"?

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Old October 28th, 2010, 07:23 AM   #89
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No reset period. When you OPEN the circuit to the brake light, it is ready to flash again. So, if you have both brakes applied and only release one of them, the circuit has NOT been opened.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 09:36 AM   #90
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Yup, once the brake light comes off, the next time you brake it will flash. I have mine continuously flashing, so it never stops. There is a small green wire that if you leave as is it does that 3 blinks and goes solid, but if cut it just blinks continuously when the brake is activated.
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Old October 31st, 2010, 12:34 AM   #91
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any one know if this will work with the bikemonkey tail light or any other LED tail light with integrated signals??
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 10:34 PM   #92
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just ordered mine, $30 is worth it for me as I have no knowledge of electronics and would not be able to connect that $5 one...
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Old November 4th, 2010, 04:37 AM   #93
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any one know if this will work with the bikemonkey tail light or any other LED tail light with integrated signals??
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Old November 11th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #94
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Love this mod. Just installed it yesterday. Wish it blinked a little quicker though.
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Don't quote me on this, but I believe I read there is a CA law re: brake light flashers that gives guidelines as to what is allowed..... My "no-cut" flasher flashes between 6-8x per activation (green loop NOT cut). IIRC, the CA code specified a maximum number of allowed flashes, 3x I THINK. I don't remember where I read this.

However, I have NEVER had this questioned by PD, or CHP about the flasher, and had both behind me (CHP for longer as he was writing me a love-note). One local PD, however, did question me about the headlight modulator, but he was not familiar with them or the Fed. law allowing them.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 01:48 AM   #96
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I am pleased with this product as well as it has served me well this past riding season, although there is one thing I was interested in changing; that is the flash speed/frequency of the modulator.

Does anyone know of any way to either reduce the number of flashes, or speed up the flash time to reduce the overall 'modulated time' of the brake light? At this point the modulator flashes 5 times, and my understanding is that if you cut the green wire, it doubles its flash frequency to 10 times. I am interested in making the modulator flash fewer times (2 or 3), or reduce time interval between flashed in order to reduce the overall modulated time.

I wouldn't mind hacking up the cables in order to attach any electronic 'devices' (resistors, capacitors etc.) although I have just about zero knowledge regarding any actual electrical components (what they do and how they behave...).


If anyone thinks it can be done, I am willing to try
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Old February 11th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #97
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I downloaded the pdf but could not find the seller info and ebay does not have this listing either (obvious as it's been removed).

Could anyone post the seller's details so I can order from him directly?

The pdf mentioned International Shipping so I'm hoping he can ship the device to me.

I've gone through the posts and understand that it works with the filament bulbs.... but with LED's it makes for better visibility. Have i understood this correctly? If so, i need to order them LED bulbs too but doubtful if anyone will ship those all the way here.
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My unit is no-cut and adjustable flash duration. $25 US shipping included, shipping to India, Canada extra.
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So what is the consensus here? It WILL work with filament bulbs but it shortens the bulbs life?
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This is definitely a good safety feature to have along with the 2357 LL rear bulb.
Glad I bought one.
What's the difference between a 1157 bulb and a 2357 LL? As far as brightness for normal operation...none. However when braking the 2357 bulb is brighter than the 1157 (40 candela vs 32). The LL simply means longer life. No problem with bulb life here.

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This is definitely a good safety feature to have along with the 2357 LL rear bulb.
Glad I bought one.
What's the difference between a 1157 bulb and a 2357 LL? As far as brightness for normal operation...none. However when braking the 2357 bulb is brighter than the 1157 (42 lumens vs 32). The LL simply means longer life. No problem with bulb life here.
Aren't they brighter than that?

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You're right, that should be 32 candela/402 lumens (1157) vs 40 candela/503 lumens (2357) on the high element.

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Works fine for filament bulbs, hasn't had any noticeable affect on bulb life.
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Had my bike new since 2008. It is a commuter and has 22K miles to date. Still on the original brake light.
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My unit is no-cut and adjustable flash duration. $25 US shipping included, shipping to India, Canada extra.
Are you selling these? any video demos?
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I just ordered a universal one. I didn't really want to pay an extra $15 to save 10 minutes. Besides, I enjoy soldering . The nice thing about the one I ordered is that it has a delay for stop and go so it doesn't just flash every time you hit your brakes. http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index...roducts_id=181
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I just ordered a universal one. I didn't really want to pay an extra $15 to save 10 minutes. Besides, I enjoy soldering . The nice thing about the one I ordered is that it has a delay for stop and go so it doesn't just flash every time you hit your brakes. http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index...roducts_id=181
That delay sounds like a really nice feature.
One thing I like about the no-cut though, is it can be easily removed, leaving no evedance if you sell your bike (although you should never sell your bike).
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Well, for $20, I doubt I'd remove it when I sell the bike. It would probably be an added incentive for the next owner to not have to install. Altho I could always just remove it and resolder 1 wire. Not a big deal either way .
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Here's a demo, it works fine with incan bulbs!
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Here's a demo, it works fine with incan bulbs!

Thats exactly how long I'm interested in modulating my brake light! At this point, I wouldn't mind purchasing another brake light modulator just to get the timing right. Where did you purchase your no-cut modulator? I tried searching for it ...with no luck.


On a side note, I would still be interested in changing the original brake light modulator if anyone had an ideas;


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I am pleased with this product as well as it has served me well this past riding season, although there is one thing I was interested in changing; that is the flash speed/frequency of the modulator.

Does anyone know of any way to either reduce the number of flashes, or speed up the flash time to reduce the overall 'modulated time' of the brake light? At this point the modulator flashes 5 times, and my understanding is that if you cut the green wire, it doubles its flash frequency to 10 times. I am interested in making the modulator flash fewer times (2 or 3), or reduce time interval between flashed in order to reduce the overall modulated time.

I wouldn't mind hacking up the cables in order to attach any electronic 'devices' (resistors, capacitors etc.) although I have just about zero knowledge regarding any actual electrical components (what they do and how they behave...).


If anyone thinks it can be done, I am willing to try
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Where did you purchase your no-cut modulator? I tried searching for it ...with no luck.
It's my own design, a company makes the PC boards for me and I get the connectors from Eastern Beaver. Offshore competition makes it unprofitable to be a viable business so I just make small runs (25) for friends & a few forum members. My unit uses a relay to flash the lights instead of solid-state which gives full power to the lamp (only slightly noticeable though) and also breaks the tail light circuit to give the flash more contrast, especially with LED's.
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I just ordered a universal one. I didn't really want to pay an extra $15 to save 10 minutes. Besides, I enjoy soldering . The nice thing about the one I ordered is that it has a delay for stop and go so it doesn't just flash every time you hit your brakes. http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index...roducts_id=181
I went ahead and purchased a couple of these modulators as well. I'll try installing them to both bikes with different modes, one using a filament bulb (the 2357LL in the stock rear) and the other using an LED rear tail light, and (I'll try to) record it to show you guys how they look.

I also want to mention that 3rdbrakeflasher managed to ship my order only a few hours after it had been processed which is very impressive!
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I bought two of the No-Cut Modulators last year... Been having no issues with them, or the bulbs.
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I went ahead and purchased a couple of these modulators as well. I'll try installing them to both bikes with different modes, one using a filament bulb (the 2357LL in the stock rear) and the other using an LED rear tail light, and (I'll try to) record it to show you guys how they look.

I also want to mention that 3rdbrakeflasher managed to ship my order only a few hours after it had been processed which is very impressive!
I got mine yesterday and installed it. The instructions supplied are for a 2 wire system and we have a 3 wire system. What you want to do is splice into the blue wire and leave the red one alone.

Simple wiring schematic:

Blue wire from bike----><----- Red wire from unit| Yellow wire from unit ----> Blue wire to bulb

Use the quick tap to connect the black wire from unit to the black/yellow wire from the bike.

Then just follow the instructions to set your mode. I pulled the bulb harness out and soldered the unit to that instead of attaching it to the bike's harness. I'm happy with the results and saved some good money. I will say that I soldered the points tho. I really dislike crimp connectors.
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This is a mod I would be interested in doing. There have been quite a few people who have been adding the kits that they purchased along this thread. Is it still a consensus that the original nocut kit for $30 after shipping is the best bet? I don't mind doing a little splicing if need be
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This is a mod I would be interested in doing. There have been quite a few people who have been adding the kits that they purchased along this thread. Is it still a consensus that the original nocut kit for $30 after shipping is the best bet? I don't mind doing a little splicing if need be
Depends on what you mean by best bet? The one I have works great and cost $20 shipped. It also got shipped really fast.
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I got mine yesterday and installed it. The instructions supplied are for a 2 wire system and we have a 3 wire system. What you want to do is splice into the blue wire and leave the red one alone.

Simple wiring schematic:

Blue wire from bike----><----- Red wire from unit| Yellow wire from unit ----> Blue wire to bulb

Use the quick tap to connect the black wire from unit to the black/yellow wire from the bike.

Then just follow the instructions to set your mode. I pulled the bulb harness out and soldered the unit to that instead of attaching it to the bike's harness. I'm happy with the results and saved some good money. I will say that I soldered the points tho. I really dislike crimp connectors.
I got these in the mail yesterday and I'm very impressed! This thing is very compact; the chip is about the same size as a US/Canadian quarter.

The wiring was also very simple, exactly how you described it. Even though all that was required was a little soldering, I decided to wire it in through the use of OEM-style connectors purchased from Eastern Beaver. I also installed some bullet connectors so I can plug in my Rear LED Strips I purchased from Oznium.

Most importantly, I was very happy with the flasher modes! Out of 37 different modes, I found a few that I personally thought were perfect. I would say that for the price, this unit is definitely worth buying and installing.

At this point in time, I actually don't know what to do with my No Cut Brake Lamp Modulator... I may try to sell it locally for $20.

I'm very pleased, and I will soon have it completely wired up to my bike.
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