April 26th, 2010, 10:53 PM | #1 |
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Motorcycle Crash - R6 Highsides & Burns on Mulholland
dont know if this has been posted yet as it just happened yesterday. thankfully no one was injured but let this be a reminder to everyone to ride within your limits, especially in the canyons.
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April 26th, 2010, 10:56 PM | #2 |
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the last 15 seconds is pretty funny lol
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April 26th, 2010, 11:38 PM | #3 |
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April 26th, 2010, 11:50 PM | #4 |
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One of my buddies was riding there yesterday and was telling me about this. For some reason, I opted to stay home and do some oil changing and radiator flushing for my car yesterday though, but after hearing about this I'm glad I did. Brutal. Crashing sucks enough as is- I can't even imagine what it felt like to watch his bike burn away into nothing afterwords (and to add insult to injury, the embarassing, inevitable riding passenger to get home that likely followed ).
Although, what I don't understand is how exactly he managed to crash there of all places. That is to say, in the middle of the one small stretch of STRAIGHT road on the snake. What was he doing exactly to fail that hard? |
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April 27th, 2010, 01:45 AM | #5 | |
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April 27th, 2010, 03:34 AM | #6 |
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can't believe that nobody at all had a fireextinguisher... I was half hoping that the Integra was a ricer with one hanging on his A pillar... poor bike.. the ending was pathetic..
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April 27th, 2010, 03:37 AM | #7 |
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Newer R6 has had problems with the sides of the tanks being damaged easily in crashes due to the shape of the tanks and how they are slightly pointy on the side. The problem is so common that they actually make tank sliders for the newer R6.
My guess is that he may have lowsided and caught the side of the tank on the ground causing a fuel leak which lead to combustion from friction. |
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April 27th, 2010, 04:06 AM | #8 | |
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Someone did have an extinguisher and emptied the whole thing, and it barely touched the fire. (I watched the video at like 4am when I couldn't sleep last night...so hopefully I'm remembering correctly!)
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April 27th, 2010, 04:28 AM | #9 | |
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Oh well.. as you said.. the extinguisher didnt do much anyway..
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April 27th, 2010, 04:31 AM | #10 |
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The newer R6s definitely have the tendency to catch on fire. I've seen it happen at the track - luckily, the marshalls all had fire extinguishers and the damage wasn't as bad as it was for that bike. It still took 2 people with extinguishers and a third on standby to make sure the fire was out.
Sucks for the rider. |
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April 27th, 2010, 04:45 AM | #11 | |
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However, at that point the bike had been burning for a good 30-45 seconds at least. The extinguisher didn't even come close to putting the fire out after spraying it for almost 30 seconds straight. I'm wondering if it was the wrong kind of extinguisher maybe? Emptying an entire can on a fire that small seems like it should have put it out. Granted the fire had plenty of air and fuel, but it was small, I figured 30 seconds of extinguisher should have easily choked it out?
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April 27th, 2010, 05:03 AM | #12 |
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There are instructions on the side of a fire extinguisher...it reads "Aim at BASE of fire"....the guy was shooting the extinguisher all over the top of the bike.
Extinguisher FAIL. |
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April 27th, 2010, 06:54 AM | #13 |
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I see the new KTM RC8 has small tank sliders built in because of how the tank sticks out.
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April 27th, 2010, 07:03 AM | #14 |
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From the wide shot at the end it was right in the middle between two corners, could have been going either way when it hit the ground. If you listen closely in the very beginning you can hear something slide at 3 seconds and 4 seconds.
Hard to believe that it took several minutes before someone called the fire department. Regarding the fire extinguisher use, it was a dry chemical (you can see the residual on the ground later) so it should have been at least ABC rated, just way too small at that point to do the job. |
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April 27th, 2010, 07:27 AM | #15 |
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I don't know why so many people ride there. That road is crap.
It's banked wrong all over the place, bumpier then hell and torn up all over. Not to mention frequently wet. Also guard rails everywhere.
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April 27th, 2010, 07:47 AM | #16 | |
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It seemed pretty obvious that the flames were coming from underneath, where the gas tank had ruptured when it hit the ground. If he had gone around and sprayed near the tank through that little gap between the road and the seat he might have had more bike left to haul off. Posted via Mobile Device |
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April 27th, 2010, 10:03 AM | #17 |
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I give the guy kudos just for trying to help.
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April 27th, 2010, 10:32 AM | #18 |
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Hard to fault someone who stops and helps. I think he did go to around the bike below the cases and aimed under the bike. I just think there was gas everywhere and he couldn't get the base of all the flames. Maybe a few moments earlier would have been the difference.
Unrelated type of fire but I have seen the fire dept outside my office building putting out a mulch bed fire with 2 water based extinguishers unable to keep up with the flames, then just putting them down grabbing one hose and hitting a wider area. They were a few minutes beyond what extinguishers could do. |
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April 27th, 2010, 10:58 AM | #19 |
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a few vids out there of burning R6's.
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April 27th, 2010, 04:44 PM | #20 |
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The shape of the tank leads to dents/rashes on the sides that stick out beyond the frame that often breach the integrity, leaking fuel. Doesn't happen much on the track because of the relatively low impact height, but on the street all sorts of more violent things happen. There are even aftermarket stick on tank sliders (delrin form fitted pucks) for the R6 that help spread the impact and provide a little scuff resistance.
Once a bike's on fire, it's toast. If it gets into to the electrical system, it's a total loss. Unfortunately, the Kawis are going to a similar shape with their tanks in the 09+ line, too, with similar negative results.
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April 28th, 2010, 07:41 AM | #22 |
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Just another example of racing "wannabees". Now the prize is no bike lol Leave it on the track.
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April 28th, 2010, 07:47 AM | #23 |
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What's really funny is all the talk of the fire getting to the tank and "...blowing it up". Someone's been watching too much TV!!
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I read somewhere that some racing organizations require tank sliders on the R6.
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April 28th, 2010, 08:48 AM | #25 |
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after seeing all these burn videos, the tank slider looks like a good idea...
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January 13th, 2013, 04:37 PM | #30 |
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This brings back memories for me, two days before my last day at work my truck caught on fire at a walmart along with a walmart trailer with ammo on it. The ammo started exploding so they shut down the store for two hours. There was four fire trucks, 4-5 ambulances and countless police cars and news stations too! It was the worst feeling ever!
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January 14th, 2013, 03:21 AM | #31 | |
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Burning ammo is not the least bit dangerous, unless it is extremely high caliber, like .50 caliber machine gun ammo. Even then, inside the trailer it's going to be harmless. |
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I dug a pit and burned a dud box that was about 50lb. Didn't really get much action other than a bunch of burst cases. Pretty underwhelming, imo... I found The caliber doesnt really increase the danger much. Its all in the chemical makeup and how it burns/delivers energy.
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Here's a story of an epic hand shake fail
2 riders at willow springs have a great battle right up to the finish. They go through turn 1 and rider A throws his hand out to congratulate riders B with post race hand shake or fist bump. Something happens and rider A clips rider B cuasing rider B to crash. Rider B's 2006 R6 bursts into flames on contact with the asphalt. I don't remember how bad the bike was after the fire was extinguished but the moral of the story is you never trust rider A |
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January 14th, 2013, 02:34 PM | #34 |
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lol thats what I told them, Fire department and news crew both overeacted... for different reasons.
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January 14th, 2013, 04:19 PM | #35 |
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That guy never used a fire extinguisher in his life. You're right; the extinguisher barely touched the fire. The guy was spraying in the wind...he would have more success just pissing on the poor Bike.
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oven might have been a small enough area for the smokeless powder to gain pressure with that amount of powder. thats when it becomes dangerous, since oven glass can break in a little as 10 psi.
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January 15th, 2013, 06:17 PM | #38 |
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R6 Carbon Edition, LOL. Poor bike.
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