CP Blue group buy? 1 jar=how much bodywork? Can the base coat be improvised cheaply?

CZroe · October 6th, 2009, 09:19 AM

Ordering unpainted parts is so much cheaper, but the paint is expensive! Also, I have no experience painting and have no equipment. All I know is that you don't apply it with a brush! That said, I think I'd be asking someone else to do it. If I provide the paint, how much cheaper do you guys think this would be? Is there anything else that needs to go with it, like a clear coat?

I'd like to order some unpainted mods and body parts along with the largest container of CP Blue + base I can get from Color Rite, use what I need, and sell the rest. This got me thinking: Can't we make a group buy of some kind? Not like a traditional group buy, but one where we buy more than we need, share the cost, and pass it around. Sound feasible?

How much does the base coat contribute to the final color match? It would be MUCH easier to afford if the base didn't cost WAAAAY too much also. Considering that the base coat is covered up, can we get away with a cheaper paint from elsewhere and still get a result that looks identical to the naked eye? Like I said, I don't know anything about painting and wouldn't know where to start doing that either.

LazinCajun · October 6th, 2009, 09:21 AM

Take this with a grain of salt as I have no direct painting experience, but I'm 99.9% sure you'll need clearcoat.

ztrack157 · October 6th, 2009, 01:53 PM

clear coat is needed. I think with cpb it has a black base I imagine you can get away with another kind of black at less cost. But if your gonna do it then do it right. I would find a guy whose good at painting and keep him stocked on beer.

CZroe · October 6th, 2009, 04:49 PM

I imagine that even the clear coat could make a difference vs. the factory color, shine, look, and texture, so why don't they suggest a clear coat too? I don't think I have the skills to do this anyway.

ztrack157 · October 6th, 2009, 04:55 PM

color rite suggests a clear coat you just have to look for the suggestion. the stock paint is clear coated.

Momaru · October 13th, 2009, 10:48 AM

The undercoat is a silver metal-fleck (lots of sparkle) that's got a hint of blue in it. Got a set of touch-up pens from Color-Rite a couple months ago to address some rock strikes on my forward fairings.

All I can say to those experienced with getting touch-up paint to look right is: I don't know how you do it. After clear-coating as carefully as I could (and following the instructions as closely as possible), it still looks odd.

If you do a GB on '08 CP blue, lemme know. I'd like to do a total strip-down and restart on my fairing or even get some unpainted parts like you're considering.

October 18th, 2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Momaru

All I can say to those experienced with getting touch-up paint to look right is: I don't know how you do it. After clear-coating as carefully as I could (and following the instructions as closely as possible), it still looks odd.

I have a black rsx and chips are a B. I just needle injected all my touch up's and let dry, application over application until it almost leveled out. then one or two more applications of cc and a soft buff after, and scratch be gone!! You can still notice the scratch if you knew where it was and stare at it, but other than that, not noticeable. The brush is tricky because getting it on unaffected areas will make your chip stick out

welcome2thedawn · March 28th, 2010, 06:57 PM

i JUST finished painting my undertail with colorite spray paint (cp blue) it's kind of hard to really make it match...i did 3 light coats of base, and ended up doing 4 coats of color...the directions say not to do any sanding between coats, but since it doesn't match exactly i think i am going to wet sand lightly where the colors meet and then do the clear

October 6th, 2009, 09:19 AM	#1
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	CP Blue group buy? 1 jar=how much bodywork? Can the base coat be improvised cheaply? Ordering unpainted parts is so much cheaper, but the paint is expensive! Also, I have no experience painting and have no equipment. All I know is that you don't apply it with a brush! That said, I think I'd be asking someone else to do it. If I provide the paint, how much cheaper do you guys think this would be? Is there anything else that needs to go with it, like a clear coat? I'd like to order some unpainted mods and body parts along with the largest container of CP Blue + base I can get from Color Rite, use what I need, and sell the rest. This got me thinking: Can't we make a group buy of some kind? Not like a traditional group buy, but one where we buy more than we need, share the cost, and pass it around. Sound feasible? How much does the base coat contribute to the final color match? It would be MUCH easier to afford if the base didn't cost WAAAAY too much also. Considering that the base coat is covered up, can we get away with a cheaper paint from elsewhere and still get a result that looks identical to the naked eye? Like I said, I don't know anything about painting and wouldn't know where to start doing that either.

October 6th, 2009, 01:53 PM	#3
ztrack157 The Sportisi Master Name: Matt Location: Chico Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	clear coat is needed. I think with cpb it has a black base I imagine you can get away with another kind of black at less cost. But if your gonna do it then do it right. I would find a guy whose good at painting and keep him stocked on beer. __________________________________________________ Sportisimoto USA is born.

October 6th, 2009, 04:55 PM	#5
ztrack157 The Sportisi Master Name: Matt Location: Chico Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	color rite suggests a clear coat you just have to look for the suggestion. the stock paint is clear coated. __________________________________________________ Sportisimoto USA is born.

October 13th, 2009, 10:48 AM	#6
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	The undercoat is a silver metal-fleck (lots of sparkle) that's got a hint of blue in it. Got a set of touch-up pens from Color-Rite a couple months ago to address some rock strikes on my forward fairings. All I can say to those experienced with getting touch-up paint to look right is: I don't know how you do it. After clear-coating as carefully as I could (and following the instructions as closely as possible), it still looks odd. If you do a GB on '08 CP blue, lemme know. I'd like to do a total strip-down and restart on my fairing or even get some unpainted parts like you're considering. __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

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October 6th, 2009, 09:21 AM	#2
LazinCajun ninjette.org guru Name: Anon Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 (Blue!) Posts: 488	Take this with a grain of salt as I have no direct painting experience, but I'm 99.9% sure you'll need clearcoat.

October 6th, 2009, 04:49 PM	#4
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	I imagine that even the clear coat could make a difference vs. the factory color, shine, look, and texture, so why don't they suggest a clear coat too? I don't think I have the skills to do this anyway.

March 28th, 2010, 06:57 PM	#8
welcome2thedawn ninjette.org guru Name: dawn Location: portland, or Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250r modded, 73 honda cl200, 74 kawasaki 400 triple Posts: 255	i JUST finished painting my undertail with colorite spray paint (cp blue) it's kind of hard to really make it match...i did 3 light coats of base, and ended up doing 4 coats of color...the directions say not to do any sanding between coats, but since it doesn't match exactly i think i am going to wet sand lightly where the colors meet and then do the clear