How do I unlock my steering without key?

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 09:30 AM

Basically I am waiting 10 or so days on my new ignition to come in. (I bought the bike with a destroyed ignition) is there anyway in the meantime I can bypass the steering lock so I am able to try and get the bike going?

Thanks

Snake · July 31st, 2013, 09:32 AM

Take the old ignition off and your steering will be free and you will have access to the wires to get it started by "Hot" wiring it.

Alex · July 31st, 2013, 09:36 AM

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

Take the old ignition off and your steering will be free and you will have access to the wires to get it started by "Hot" wiring it.

Sweet.. just not looking forward to the "security" bolts.

Snake · July 31st, 2013, 10:09 AM

^^^ well you have to take the old one off to get the new one on so might as well do it sooner than later lol.

7oxSin · July 31st, 2013, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

STOP

HAMMA TIME

alex.s · July 31st, 2013, 11:21 AM

sit on the bike sidesaddle with the kick stand down, left foot on the left peg, hold the rear seat and the frame and use your right foot to push hard on the left handlebar. you'll need about 200lbs of force at least.

verboten1 · July 31st, 2013, 03:59 PM

I took the top clamp off, drilled out the bolts, removed the switch from the lock cylinder, and had a bike I could still turn off

Joshorilla · July 31st, 2013, 04:25 PM

Can you not jam a screwdriver in the ignition and try turn that with a bit of force?

choneofakind · July 31st, 2013, 04:32 PM

this thread sounds like a bunch of amateur bike theives who finally decide to steal a bike. So they go out and find a bike. But then, they realize that they weren't quite as ready as they originally thought. So they have the conversation that we're currently having.

Joshorilla · July 31st, 2013, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

this thread sounds like a bunch of amateur bike theives who finally decide to steal a bike. So they go out and find a bike. But then, they realize that they weren't quite as ready as they originally thought. So they have the conversation that we're currently having.

While the professional bike theifs go for the ones that don't have locked stearing and bring a van and a couple of strapping young lads for the ones that do.

alex.s · July 31st, 2013, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshorilla

While the professional bike theifs go for the ones that don't have locked stearing and bring a van and a couple of strapping young lads for the ones that do.

all the thefts i've seen have been single theives. breaking a steering lock is easy. screwdriver to bust the ignition on is easy. riding away like its your bike is easy.

n4mwd · July 31st, 2013, 06:27 PM

If you take the old assembly off and together with the new ignition assembly to a locksmith, he can swap out the tumblers so that the new ignition keys matches the old ignition. That way you don't have to carry a second set of keys for the seat and helmet locks. Not only that, but the VIN will match the keys so if you ever need a key made by the number, you can do so.

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

STOP

HAMMA TIME

Lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

sit on the bike sidesaddle with the kick stand down, left foot on the left peg, hold the rear seat and the frame and use your right foot to push hard on the left handlebar. you'll need about 200lbs of force at least.

Not sure if serious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by verboten1

I took the top clamp off, drilled out the bolts, removed the switch from the lock cylinder, and had a bike I could still turn off

How did drilling the bolts go for you? I still have yet to take stuff apart. Been lazy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshorilla

Can you not jam a screwdriver in the ignition and try turn that with a bit of force?

Tried, it almost looks like I could get the key in there.. but not quite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

this thread sounds like a bunch of amateur bike theives who finally decide to steal a bike. So they go out and find a bike. But then, they realize that they weren't quite as ready as they originally thought. So they have the conversation that we're currently having.

LOL, basically. This messed up ignition is why I bought it from a college kid for $700 cas... 2007 with 5k miles

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

If you take the old assembly off and together with the new ignition assembly to a locksmith, he can swap out the tumblers so that the new ignition keys matches the old ignition. That way you don't have to carry a second set of keys for the seat and helmet locks. Not only that, but the VIN will match the keys so if you ever need a key made by the number, you can do so.

Not a bad idea.

verboten1 · July 31st, 2013, 07:44 PM

The bolts are soft, took me a couple minutes with a hand drill

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verboten1

The bolts are soft, took me a couple minutes with a hand drill

straight down the head? Special bit?

7oxSin · July 31st, 2013, 08:27 PM

if you havnt ****ed up the ignition yet you can always get the number from inside the helmet lock and order a replacement key :P

never mind thats why you dont post while tired... just reread the post

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 08:41 PM

Yeah it's messed up bad. Just took this pic.

verboten1 · July 31st, 2013, 09:30 PM

Looked kinda like,this just drilled it out with a bit slightly smaller than the bolt head

jbrown7815 · July 31st, 2013, 09:43 PM

Ok, thanks man

jbrown7815 · August 1st, 2013, 02:50 PM

Everything taken apart, upper fairing removed... took the part to a machine shop to properly remove the security bolts.

baxtc1 · August 1st, 2013, 03:44 PM

Hope you don't get pinged for a hot bike.

jbrown7815 · August 1st, 2013, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baxtc1

Hope you don't get pinged for a hot bike.

haha, I have title signed, keys everything

n4mwd · August 1st, 2013, 05:18 PM

There are a ton of hot bikes out there for sale. When the ads say "no title or keys" its a safe bet that its hot. Take a look at this one:

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcy/3889797501.html

I wouldn't touch that thing with a 100 foot pole. Not even for parts.

Motofool · August 1st, 2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrown7815

haha, I have title signed, keys everything

Excuse me if I double posted this:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_to_...gnition_switch

jbrown7815 · August 1st, 2013, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

Excuse me if I double posted this:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_to_...gnition_switch

Already done... just awaiting new ignition now

verboten1 · August 1st, 2013, 07:56 PM

Bought mine no title no keys. Cheap cheap cheap!!

Also bought it from original owner though lol

n4mwd · August 2nd, 2013, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verboten1

Bought mine no title no keys. Cheap cheap cheap!!

Also bought it from original owner though lol

In Florida, and probably most other states, the title is kept electronically by the state. So a legitimate owner ALWAYS will have a title. Even if you lose the paper title, its just a quick trip to the DMV to get a new copy.

A stolen bike wont have title or keys.

verboten1 · August 2nd, 2013, 07:07 AM

Yep, probably could have gotten a duplicate title, if the PO Hadn't gone to jail for life.

It was easier to claim legal ownership with a nice, easy 1 page form

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 3rd, 2013, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

There are a ton of hot bikes out there for sale. When the ads say "no title or keys" its a safe bet that its hot. Take a look at this one:

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcy/3889797501.html

I wouldn't touch that thing with a 100 foot pole. Not even for parts.

Wow that bike is still for sale? Would be a steal if it wasn't.....stolen.

jbrown7815 · August 8th, 2013, 06:41 PM

Got my new ignition in today! Now just to put it all back together... already tested to make sure power came on and it does!

Snake · August 8th, 2013, 06:53 PM

That's great news. Sounds like you are a lock expert now.

jbrown7815 · August 8th, 2013, 07:21 PM

Heh, I took it to a machine shop to get the security bolts out. Didn't have time to mess with it, especially without a vice.

jbrown7815 · August 8th, 2013, 09:00 PM

It RUNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

7oxSin · August 8th, 2013, 09:38 PM

GRATS!!!!!

Snake · August 8th, 2013, 09:57 PM

Woot woo! I know the feeling.

baxtc1 · August 8th, 2013, 09:58 PM

Knock knock knock

Hello

Hello sir, that motorcyce in your driveway.........
Nah, good to hear you have it going.

July 31st, 2013, 09:30 AM	#1
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July 31st, 2013, 09:36 AM	#3
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alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	sit on the bike sidesaddle with the kick stand down, left foot on the left peg, hold the rear seat and the frame and use your right foot to push hard on the left handlebar. you'll need about 200lbs of force at least. __________________________________________________

July 31st, 2013, 03:59 PM	#8
verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	I took the top clamp off, drilled out the bolts, removed the switch from the lock cylinder, and had a bike I could still turn off __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

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n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	If you take the old assembly off and together with the new ignition assembly to a locksmith, he can swap out the tumblers so that the new ignition keys matches the old ignition. That way you don't have to carry a second set of keys for the seat and helmet locks. Not only that, but the VIN will match the keys so if you ever need a key made by the number, you can do so. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!
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Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Take the old ignition off and your steering will be free and you will have access to the wires to get it started by "Hot" wiring it.

July 31st, 2013, 10:09 AM	#5
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	^^^ well you have to take the old one off to get the new one on so might as well do it sooner than later lol.

July 31st, 2013, 04:25 PM	#9
Joshorilla Bass Master General Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 24	Can you not jam a screwdriver in the ignition and try turn that with a bit of force?

July 31st, 2013, 04:32 PM	#10
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	this thread sounds like a bunch of amateur bike theives who finally decide to steal a bike. So they go out and find a bike. But then, they realize that they weren't quite as ready as they originally thought. So they have the conversation that we're currently having.

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verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	The bolts are soft, took me a couple minutes with a hand drill __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

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7oxSin MSF Coach! Name: Lupe Location: Antioch, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 ninja 250 Posts: 886	if you havnt **ed up the ignition yet you can always get the number from inside the helmet lock and order a replacement key :P never mind thats why you dont post while tired... just reread the post __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered wanna ride the dragon? Ninjette group ride! May 16th-20th Join the Ride!!http://www.ninjette.org/forums/group.php?groupid=35**

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jbrown7815 Custom User Title Name: Jesse Location: NM Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 27	Yeah it's messed up bad. Just took this pic.

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verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	Looked kinda like,this just drilled it out with a bit slightly smaller than the bolt head __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

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jbrown7815 Custom User Title Name: Jesse Location: NM Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 27	Ok, thanks man

August 1st, 2013, 02:50 PM	#22
jbrown7815 Custom User Title Name: Jesse Location: NM Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 27	Everything taken apart, upper fairing removed... took the part to a machine shop to properly remove the security bolts.

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baxtc1 ninjette.org member Name: Robert Location: South of you blokes. Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '92 GPX 250 (Gone and replaced with '08 V-Strom), 2005 Suzuki C50. Posts: 186	Hope you don't get pinged for a hot bike.

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n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	There are a ton of hot bikes out there for sale. When the ads say "no title or keys" its a safe bet that its hot. Take a look at this one: http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcy/3889797501.html I wouldn't touch that thing with a 100 foot pole. Not even for parts. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

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verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	Bought mine no title no keys. Cheap cheap cheap!! Also bought it from original owner though lol __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

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August 8th, 2013, 06:41 PM	#32
jbrown7815 Custom User Title Name: Jesse Location: NM Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 27	Got my new ignition in today! Now just to put it all back together... already tested to make sure power came on and it does!

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Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	That's great news. Sounds like you are a lock expert now.

August 8th, 2013, 07:21 PM	#34
jbrown7815 Custom User Title Name: Jesse Location: NM Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 27	Heh, I took it to a machine shop to get the security bolts out. Didn't have time to mess with it, especially without a vice.

August 8th, 2013, 09:00 PM	#35
jbrown7815 Custom User Title Name: Jesse Location: NM Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 27	It RUNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

August 8th, 2013, 09:38 PM	#36
7oxSin MSF Coach! Name: Lupe Location: Antioch, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 ninja 250 Posts: 886	GRATS!!!!! __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered wanna ride the dragon? Ninjette group ride! May 16th-20th Join the Ride!!http://www.ninjette.org/forums/group.php?groupid=35

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Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Woot woo! I know the feeling.

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baxtc1 ninjette.org member Name: Robert Location: South of you blokes. Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '92 GPX 250 (Gone and replaced with '08 V-Strom), 2005 Suzuki C50. Posts: 186	Knock knock knock Hello Hello sir, that motorcyce in your driveway......... Nah, good to hear you have it going.

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