Post pics of your most recent track/racing BP (Body Positioning) - Page 18

Sirref · February 22nd, 2015, 02:21 PM

Every track becomes technical with enough speed

Sirref · May 25th, 2015, 08:56 PM

Got a few pics from last weekend, I was too busy riding to look at them during the event (open track means keep riding til you run out of gas then fill up and go back out)

got bumped to TPM's red group (goes white-yellow-red-blue-black) at the end of the day after leading one of the coaches on a wild ride through NCCAR and gapping him at points (both on N300s he's new to being WFO all the time)

I'm aware of the toes...now...I was wondering why they were dragging and figured it was because my pegs are lower than I'm used to for track til I saw the pics

csmith12 · May 25th, 2015, 09:07 PM

Nice Ben!

Sirref · May 25th, 2015, 09:12 PM

My biggest improvement doesn't actually show in these photos, I learned to rotate my inside hand a bit forward which naturally bends my inside elbow more allowing my inside shoulder and head to drop lower. I haven't figured out how to do this on the throttle side just yet due to the need to roll on the throttle

choneofakind · May 26th, 2015, 02:49 AM

Sideways hand, palm the end of the bar and make a screwdriver motion on the throttle.

Sirref · May 26th, 2015, 05:36 AM

That works up until I need to reset to get the rest of the throttle pull...maybe I should just get an r6 throttle tube and remove that issue that way

choneofakind · May 26th, 2015, 05:49 PM

That, or just grip further forward to start with so you don't have to regrip to get full throttle.

green_bread · May 27th, 2015, 11:57 AM

New image from this weekend. Should have a few more, shortly.

green_bread · May 27th, 2015, 03:39 PM

Doc-Ram · May 27th, 2015, 04:39 PM

adouglas · June 1st, 2015, 09:17 AM

Getting there but still a long way to go

@ducati999 @Bigballsofpaint @csmith12

burningscooter · June 1st, 2015, 03:37 PM

@adouglas - give us some background information on how that contour is mounted. very interested.

adouglas · June 1st, 2015, 03:59 PM

I have two, one in front and one behind. That, plus RaceRender, lets me do picture-in-picture video. This is the session during which the front quarter photos above were taken:

Link to original page on YouTube.

The front one is attached to a CycleMount mirror mount, which is distributed by Woodcraft (https://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bi...&category=CMOO)

The mount is GoPro compatible, so I got an adaptor off of Amazon that lets you mount the Contour to any GoPro mount. The mount bolts in where your mirror goes. I safetied it to the mount bolts.

The rear is a Contour helmet mount -- sticky pad with an arm that allows swivel and tilt -- attached to the tail fairing. The mount is off-center to put the camera on the centerline of the bike. Safetied to the two tail fairing mounting bolts.

These cameras work well with weird mount locations because the lens rotates. They're easy to switch on while wearing gloves, and a 32 gb card will hold enough video at 720p to last two whole track days plus. The ones I have are the ROAM2, which is only $99 these days. For about $230 you can get the Contour +2, which has GPS. BTW, Contour was just bought by Ion, which makes a similar styled camera.

ithaca00 · June 7th, 2015, 01:43 AM

I just made a big change in body positioning regarding my lower body. Next step is to get the upper body to follow suit...

Dsheumaker · June 12th, 2015, 11:16 AM

Second track day on the 250. I think my BP is good enough, just need to work on other issues that ive talk to CSmtih about.

csmith12 · June 12th, 2015, 02:35 PM

inside bar screwdriver grip - check
head near hand - check
elbow over cas cap and resting on tank - check
upper torso beside the tank - check
sitting back in the seat - check
spine in line with the bike - check
looking where you want to go - check

adouglas · June 14th, 2015, 07:59 AM

Mike K · June 14th, 2015, 11:21 PM

First time on track. What a blast. I was a little lower by the end of the day. Just a little, not much.

sharky nrk · June 15th, 2015, 06:17 AM

^^ hey first time on track and best thing to do is just get comfortable, get used to riding the line so don't sweat any BP stuff

Next time I would start with just pointing your head where your mirror used to be and start getting used to the that, it will move your body. Welcome to the addiction.

adouglas · June 15th, 2015, 07:09 AM

Hey @Mike K, I see you're fairly local to me.

FYI, several Ninjettiski are going to be at Palmer with Tony's Track Days in August, including Chris (csmith12), Ben (sirref) (probably), Ant (ducati999), Jay (bigballsofpaint) and myself.

Palmer is AWESOME!!!!!!! I'm sure you've seen the videos. They do not do the place justice.

thisisbenji · June 15th, 2015, 08:04 AM

Man you guys have good photos! I'm jealous, this is the best one of my work in progress.

Mike K · June 15th, 2015, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

^^ hey first time on track and best thing to do is just get comfortable, get used to riding the line so don't sweat any BP stuff

Next time I would start with just pointing your head where your mirror used to be and start getting used to the that, it will move your body. Welcome to the addiction.

I was concentrating on being smooth which I wasn't until maybe the last session. I just picked two pics with decent lean. I was probably lower in the sessions before those when the pics were taken. Notice that the brake lever is bare aluminum and the clutch is stock black. I went down in the third session-- too fast in and way off line-- and had to repair the bike. I was a little more cautious after that but as I forced myself to look through the turns and further out I settled down and realized that it was less work to go faster. Probably the most important thing I learned was the looking through to the next point-- connecting the dots smoothly. That and focus and concentration. Through most of the day I was distracted in the last set of turns by a white sedan parked in the woods beyond the fence. It was just sitting there with it's hood up. Out of curiosity I mentioned it to a few guys and none of them even noticed it. They were totally focused. I wasn't. That's why I went down. My mind wandered.

Sirref · June 15th, 2015, 08:45 AM

was that sedan parked towards the outside of the corner?

Mike K · June 15th, 2015, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

was that sedan parked towards the outside of the corner?

Yes. We ran Lightning in reverse (counterclockwise) on Saturday so it would have been on the outside of turns 1 and 2 if run clockwise.

Running reverse makes turn 1 a blind unloaded downhill. Pretty butt puckering the first few sessions but pretty cool after learning to trust that the track was still exactly as it was on the previous laps and that the bike could do it.

Sirref · June 15th, 2015, 08:59 AM

That was your issue then, and also why no one else saw it. Looking where you intend to go makes the biggest difference in the world in this sport

sharky nrk · June 15th, 2015, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike K

I was a little more cautious after that but as I forced myself to look through the turns and further out I settled down and realized that it was less work to go faster. Probably the most important thing I learned was the looking through to the next point-- connecting the dots smoothly. That and focus and concentration.

Yeah man, good stuff to work on for sure. Getting the eyes up and forward preps the mind for what your going to do next. Things slow down a bit and your SRs stay at bay a bit longer. Just getting out there, riding within yourself, and working on one thing at a time will pay big dividends. Sounds like you have the right way forward mentally

Mike K · June 15th, 2015, 09:20 AM

Thanks guys. I'm being analytical about it. This is geometry and physics and while I was never good at either I know that this is science and art combined. I'm slow now but I'll progress.

Here's pic of me and one of the coaches, Mark. Note where he's looking and note where I'm looking. Very telling photo. This is my favorite photo of the 28 on the disc. This is the money shot for me.

choneofakind · June 15th, 2015, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike K

First time on track. What a blast. I was a little lower by the end of the day. Just a little, not much.

Just glancing at this thread on my phone to kill time. Totally did a double take because I thought someone was posting pictures of me.

Great looking bike

Mike K · June 15th, 2015, 08:06 PM

Back at you. Great looking bike you have. LoL

Sirref · June 15th, 2015, 08:19 PM

^ seconded, looks better than that R6 he should be on

burningscooter · June 17th, 2015, 06:02 AM

Chillin through T6-7 at Summit Main in early May.

nikeeric86 · June 17th, 2015, 09:48 AM

Laguna seca

Aufitt · June 30th, 2015, 10:10 AM

csmith12 · June 30th, 2015, 10:33 AM

adouglas · June 30th, 2015, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufitt

Holy stud farm, Batman!

That bike has an enormous horse c.... er... um...

And a giant dangling sack of some sort......

Aufitt · July 1st, 2015, 12:54 AM

oosp I think ive broken the thread,
maybe a nice Mod could reduce the 1st pic to 1024 to fit the page please.

snot · July 1st, 2015, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufitt

oosp I think ive broken the thread,
maybe a nice Mod could reduce the 1st pic to 1024 to fit the page please.

no way, that is a great pic!

Doc-Ram · July 1st, 2015, 05:10 AM

most recently at Thunderhill. First day on the ninjette there. Vortex rearsets, driven clipons, Leo Vince slip on, R6 front master cylinder, galfer SS brake lines

Working on feeling right on this bike. Still want clip-ons lower to get my upped body down. Feels so different than my R6 :laugh

Also working on wrist/screwdriver position. Was doing it last season, somehow not turned into muscle memory yet, so will consciously work on it.

allanoue · July 1st, 2015, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufitt

oosp I think ive broken the thread,
maybe a nice Mod could reduce the 1st pic to 1024 to fit the page please.

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Sirref · July 1st, 2015, 05:18 PM

btw @Aufitt how are you liking that R3? looks like you've got it dialed in the way you want it from the pics. It's my current favorite in the class despite the fact that I haven't had a chance to actually ride the thing (though I can't get one until it's allowed in all of my potential racing series)

February 22nd, 2015, 02:21 PM	#681
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	Every track becomes technical with enough speed __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

May 25th, 2015, 08:56 PM	#682
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	Got a few pics from last weekend, I was too busy riding to look at them during the event (open track means keep riding til you run out of gas then fill up and go back out) got bumped to TPM's red group (goes white-yellow-red-blue-black) at the end of the day after leading one of the coaches on a wild ride through NCCAR and gapping him at points (both on N300s he's new to being WFO all the time) I'm aware of the toes...now...I was wondering why they were dragging and figured it was because my pegs are lower than I'm used to for track til I saw the pics __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?
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May 25th, 2015, 09:07 PM	#683
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Nice Ben! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 25th, 2015, 09:12 PM	#684
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	My biggest improvement doesn't actually show in these photos, I learned to rotate my inside hand a bit forward which naturally bends my inside elbow more allowing my inside shoulder and head to drop lower. I haven't figured out how to do this on the throttle side just yet due to the need to roll on the throttle __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

May 26th, 2015, 05:36 AM	#686
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	That works up until I need to reset to get the rest of the throttle pull...maybe I should just get an r6 throttle tube and remove that issue that way __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

May 26th, 2015, 02:49 AM	#685
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Sideways hand, palm the end of the bar and make a screwdriver motion on the throttle.

May 26th, 2015, 05:49 PM	#687
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	That, or just grip further forward to start with so you don't have to regrip to get full throttle.

May 27th, 2015, 11:57 AM	#688
green_bread ninjette.org member Name: Adam Location: Columbia, MO Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R & CBR250R Posts: 105	New image from this weekend. Should have a few more, shortly.
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May 27th, 2015, 03:39 PM	#689
green_bread ninjette.org member Name: Adam Location: Columbia, MO Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R & CBR250R Posts: 105
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May 27th, 2015, 04:39 PM	#690
Doc-Ram ninjette.org member Name: Doc Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2010 SF1098, 08 R6 track, 08 Ninja 250 track Posts: 14
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June 1st, 2015, 09:17 AM	#691
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Getting there but still a long way to go @ducati999 @Bigballsofpaint @csmith12 __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem. Last futzed with by adouglas; June 7th, 2015 at 05:03 AM.
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June 1st, 2015, 03:37 PM	#692
burningscooter clutch Name: nameless Location: Maryland Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): L1 GSXR600 Posts: 543	@adouglas - give us some background information on how that contour is mounted. very interested.

June 1st, 2015, 03:59 PM	#693
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	I have two, one in front and one behind. That, plus RaceRender, lets me do picture-in-picture video. This is the session during which the front quarter photos above were taken: Link to original page on YouTube. The front one is attached to a CycleMount mirror mount, which is distributed by Woodcraft (https://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bi...&category=CMOO) The mount is GoPro compatible, so I got an adaptor off of Amazon that lets you mount the Contour to any GoPro mount. The mount bolts in where your mirror goes. I safetied it to the mount bolts. The rear is a Contour helmet mount -- sticky pad with an arm that allows swivel and tilt -- attached to the tail fairing. The mount is off-center to put the camera on the centerline of the bike. Safetied to the two tail fairing mounting bolts. These cameras work well with weird mount locations because the lens rotates. They're easy to switch on while wearing gloves, and a 32 gb card will hold enough video at 720p to last two whole track days plus. The ones I have are the ROAM2, which is only $99 these days. For about $230 you can get the Contour +2, which has GPS. BTW, Contour was just bought by Ion, which makes a similar styled camera. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem. Last futzed with by adouglas; June 2nd, 2015 at 04:58 AM.

June 7th, 2015, 01:43 AM	#694
ithaca00 ninjette.org guru Name: Ryan Location: Sacramento, CA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250 (street), 1994 EX250 (Race), 2008 250R (Race), 2000 250 (project), 1991 EL250 (a cruiser!) Posts: 287	I just made a big change in body positioning regarding my lower body. Next step is to get the upper body to follow suit... __________________________________________________ AFM #867 (5309)
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June 12th, 2015, 02:35 PM	#696
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	inside bar screwdriver grip - check head near hand - check elbow over cas cap and resting on tank - check upper torso beside the tank - check sitting back in the seat - check spine in line with the bike - check looking where you want to go - check __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School
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June 14th, 2015, 07:59 AM	#697
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	__________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

June 15th, 2015, 06:17 AM	#699
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	^^ hey first time on track and best thing to do is just get comfortable, get used to riding the line so don't sweat any BP stuff Next time I would start with just pointing your head where your mirror used to be and start getting used to the that, it will move your body. Welcome to the addiction. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

June 15th, 2015, 07:09 AM	#700
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Hey @Mike K, I see you're fairly local to me. FYI, several Ninjettiski are going to be at Palmer with Tony's Track Days in August, including Chris (csmith12), Ben (sirref) (probably), Ant (ducati999), Jay (bigballsofpaint) and myself. Palmer is AWESOME!!!!!!! I'm sure you've seen the videos. They do not do the place justice. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

June 15th, 2015, 08:04 AM	#701
thisisbenji ninjette.org sage Name: Benji Location: Wadsworth, IL Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Sold), 2009 FZ6, 2015 Honda Grom Posts: 898	Man you guys have good photos! I'm jealous, this is the best one of my work in progress. __________________________________________________ My Old Bike My New Bike
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June 15th, 2015, 08:45 AM	#703
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	was that sedan parked towards the outside of the corner? __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

June 15th, 2015, 08:59 AM	#705
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	That was your issue then, and also why no one else saw it. Looking where you intend to go makes the biggest difference in the world in this sport __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

June 15th, 2015, 08:06 PM	#709
Mike K ninjette.org guru Name: Mike Location: NJ Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300 track bike, 2007 Suzuki GSXR 750 track bike, 2002 Yamaha R6, 1995 CBR600RR f3 track bike Posts: 304	Back at you. Great looking bike you have. LoL __________________________________________________ Track, track, track

June 15th, 2015, 08:19 PM	#710
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	^ seconded, looks better than that R6 he should be on __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

June 30th, 2015, 10:10 AM	#713
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	Last futzed with by Aufitt; July 1st, 2015 at 11:49 PM.
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June 30th, 2015, 10:33 AM	#714
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	__________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

July 1st, 2015, 12:54 AM	#716
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	oosp I think ive broken the thread, maybe a nice Mod could reduce the 1st pic to 1024 to fit the page please.

July 1st, 2015, 05:18 PM	#720
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	btw @Aufitt how are you liking that R3? looks like you've got it dialed in the way you want it from the pics. It's my current favorite in the class despite the fact that I haven't had a chance to actually ride the thing (though I can't get one until it's allowed in all of my potential racing series) __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

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