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Old October 6th, 2018, 04:07 AM   #1
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Theoretical jacket idea...

Ok so this is going to sound weird really really weird. As a hobby I weave chain mail (no not emails, the medieval armor) stainless steel rings 4-1 weave 14 gauge wire. Terrible vs impact but seems invincible vs abrasion couple that over a padded jacket (yes a short sleeve is 16lbs) and it seems like a good idea but this is an idea.

I have the supplies to make a full sleeve shirt large enough to wear over a jacket tightly and the supplies to make chain mail pants (those suck unless woven with care for sizing to the individual to prevent flapping loose bits) is this an idea I should start on in the non riding season?
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Old October 6th, 2018, 06:37 AM   #2
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Epic Monty Python and the Holy Grail aspect aside, I'd HATE to have to wear a 16 lb shirt in addition to my regular gear. That would get fatiguing really fast, I think.

Plus there's the whole tank-scratching thing.

For reference, my track gear (helmet, suit, boots, gloves) totals about 25 lbs but that's spread over my whole body.
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Old October 6th, 2018, 02:43 PM   #3
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Besides the comfort due to weight and the tank scratching issue, it still seems like an idea that may at the very least provide a level of entertainment right? I might just start on it in winter
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Old October 7th, 2018, 01:13 AM   #4
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I can imagine you sliding down the road in a shower of sparks.

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Old October 7th, 2018, 04:40 AM   #5
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do you have some pics to share of your handiwork?
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Old October 7th, 2018, 05:21 AM   #6
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First pic. A good idea of what I have right now. Second pic. Some of my aluminum (silver and black are the only steel) third pic. Idea of ring size. Fourth pic a shirt ďblankĒ my hand for scale. Fifth. Some belts I have leftover from last sale.
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Old October 7th, 2018, 05:23 AM   #7
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I can imagine you sliding down the road in a shower of sparks.

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Right?! Just imagine the scraping noises lol bumping a coffe table sounds like a car wreck
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Old October 21st, 2018, 10:27 PM   #8
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Cool! You do nice work!
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In theory it sounds like a great idea.
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Old October 23rd, 2018, 01:47 AM   #11
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In theory yes...I’m having a hard time justifying the added weight and struggling to remove “slop” the thing that happens with chain mail it’s all floppy floppy and very very hard to get suitably tight and still be able to move.
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Old October 23rd, 2018, 08:03 PM   #12
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Not sure about the moto gear aspect, but I dig that you make chain mail... from the n00b perspective anyway.

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Considering Iím new at this I would imagine some much larger company has already had this idea and since itís not mainstream Iíll probably relegate chainmail to the non moto world. Cannot imagine Iím the first person to have this thought. Lol
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Maybe chain mail sandwiched between fabric layers or kevlar in order to keep it in place? Conceptually, I like the idea of chain mail but getting in and out might be challenging. Putting it with other layers could keep it in place, and in a crash the fabric would rub off but the chain mail would then take the brunt of the abrasion.
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Old October 24th, 2018, 06:17 AM   #15
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I can imagine you sliding down the road in a shower of sparks.
We'll give you a new title if you do. Billy Gibbons really did that once long ago, but it was a spherical steel cage instead of mail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Sparks

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Maybe chain mail sandwiched between fabric layers or kevlar in order to keep it in place? Conceptually, I like the idea of chain mail but getting in and out might be challenging. Putting it with other layers could keep it in place, and in a crash the fabric would rub off but the chain mail would then take the brunt of the abrasion.
So if you have Levlar, then you donít need chain mail ! Kevlar is light, incredibly abrasion resistant & easily formed & shaped as a moving cloth or a hard armour. I used to make pre-preg Kevlar for helicopter armoured seats !

If you wanted to use steel as an abrasion layer, then sowing steel cables or thin strips into a garment would achieve the same goal with less weight than chain mail. You could also used steel netting. Both are relatively light & flexible.

Iíd leave chain mail for the knights, but would suggest that Titanium mail would be awesome or even 7075 alloy, much lighter than steel, just as tough & no rust ! If you laser welded the rings, it would be incredibly durable to.

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True regarding the Kevlar it does defeat the purpose of chainmail. I was almost thinking a simple long sleeve chain shirt and weaving 550 cord into the rows of rings to provide more shape and hold it tighter. I’ll start this experiment this weekend. Shirt will take 4 months to complete at the minimum
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I'm interested in your experiment.
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I’ll get back to this in a few months lol
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...... Shirt will take 4 months to complete at the minimum
Well that's probably why no one else does it. You'd have to sell a suit for $100,000 to make it worth while.
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No that’s my estimate based on my amount of time I am willing to spend a week on this.
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60? Depends on pace. Motivation and how badly plier bitten my hands are.
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