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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:25 PM   #1
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Hit a patch of gravel, lowsided.

That's pretty much it. I know the road and know that gravel is there but I also know the lines to avoid it. However, I was distracted by the dog for long enough to look away from the road and subsequently **** up my line. I was going somewhere between 35-55mph in 2nd gear but don't know the exact speed. Luckily I'm fine other than a few scrapes and bruises due to my jacket holding up (It's somehow still usable! Speed&Strength did a good job making it) and my helmet taking one for the team. My gloves are all kind of scraped up and I'm probably going to need to replace those too, going with some gauntlet gloves this time. I have a few scratches from where the jacket rubbed since it's a size or two big though, but that's the extent of my injuries afaik, going to patient first tomorrow to ensure that my shoulder is good. I wasn't wearing pants or boots since I was headed to work but amazingly have no damage to my lower body other than a few scratches on my knee.

The convenient thing was that the whole thing happened right in front of a paramedic who was in her front lawn on her day off. She patched me up and sent me on my way, I got home and switched to my car and showed up on time to work like nothing happened.


Pics (disclaimer, I'm not entirely sure how to resize these so they're a bit large):

The Bike, all of the damage is cosmetic:


Gloves:


Helmet, visor broke off and there are a bunch of gashes above it as well as a crack going down separating the outer layer chinbar from the back right below the visor clip:


Gravel & the marks left on the road by my bike:




Loud ass dog:



Summary, I knew the road and that there is gravel in that corner but was distracted when the time came to avoid said gravel, plowed right through it lifted the rear off the ground and had a bad time.

BUT I'M GOOD AND THE BIKE IS GOOD! She just lost a bit of her shine
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #2
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:39 PM   #3
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I'm actually not that bummed about it, yea it sucks but I was fairly lucky with the lack of damage/injury. Yea my gear got all kinds of ****ed up but that's what gear is meant for.


I also have no intention of ever selling the bike so I'm not really worried about the loss of value either.
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:40 PM   #4
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:48 PM   #5
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:51 PM   #6
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Just ordered my new helmet, Should be back on the bike this week once it comes in.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/i...avenous-helmet
Unfortunately the matte black chantilly helmet was already sold out but being from B'more this'll work fine. I already know the fit is perfect for my head with these helmets so that's not an issue.
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:52 PM   #7
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Old April 19th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #8
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Old April 19th, 2014, 10:00 PM   #9
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Why don't you have a seat over there...
Within first year, I've had it for 9.5months now.
I got hit by a car on my 250 last april or may though, that experience was way worse than this.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 01:19 AM   #10
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It's page 3's fault you were lookin at puppies, but that was the easiest part of this deal to look at... Sorry for your ride.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 01:24 AM   #11
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Old April 20th, 2014, 05:58 AM   #12
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Looks like the riding gear worked as designed!

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Wow, that sucks. But good thing your ok. I'm so paranoid when it comes to gravel...
Insurance won't cover the damage?
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Glad you are good to go.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 08:20 AM   #15
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Lost a bit of her shine, but looks kind of cool. Glad you're ok, and love the new helmet graphics. It's a bummer about the cost of buying new gear though.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 10:27 AM   #17
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getting hit by cars is fun.

sliding through sand is fun too. next time just ride over the sand instead of crashing in it though.
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Wow, that sucks. But good thing your ok. I'm so paranoid when it comes to gravel...
Insurance won't cover the damage?
Insurance would cover it completely, but I may not get them involved since it would be a strike against my record with them and with my driving record that could get me kicked off the plan. It's all cosmetic damage that I can fix myself for a small amount of $ this summer. Plus I get an excuse to add a cool decal to the fairings when all is said and done.

I may still involve them on monday. Their offices are closed today, and I have the argument that I went to work half an hour later so I didn't have the opportunity to call about it.

The way I see it, I involve insurance and get it all fixed for a slightly higher premium or I wait it out a bit and live with it until July/August swap the fairings and make it look badass.
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Insurance would cover it completely, but I may not get them involved since it would be a strike against my record with them and with my driving record that could get me kicked off the plan. It's all cosmetic damage that I can fix myself for a small amount of $ this summer. Plus I get an excuse to add a cool decal to the fairings when all is said and done.

I may still involve them on monday. Their offices are closed today, and I have the argument that I went to work half an hour later so I didn't have the opportunity to call about it.

The way I see it, I involve insurance and get it all fixed for a slightly higher premium or I wait it out a bit and live with it until July/August swap the fairings and make it look badass.
might as well wait until you crash it again and do some real damage to get insurance involved
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^ A solid argument, especially considering how my scorpion helmet cost more than fixing the total damage to the bike.

Shame I'm not covered for track days like I thought I was, state farm changed their policy at some point.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 10:39 AM   #21
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track days? or races?

they typically don't cover a competition or anything that is timed. but crashing your bike while using it for what it was meant for should be covered by insurance.


besides, how do they know you didn't crash like that in your front drive way? that's where the bike is laying when the inspector comes.
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Honestly I don't know how they would, I know racing/timed stuff isn't covered but I read the update as anything on a road used for racing/competition. I specifically asked my rep if a riding school was covered and he said no.
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so if you were to crash in long beach on that road (that is normally a perfectly legal public street road) they use to race on sometimes, you would not be covered?


sounds like you should switch to progressive
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That's pretty much it..............
I feel sorry for that beautiful Ninja 300 and for your bad experience.

Which tire yielded?
Were you going too fast?

Other than paying more attention to the surface, what would you do different in similar situations to avoid a low-side fall?
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I feel sorry for that beautiful Ninja 300 and for your bad experience.

Which tire yielded?
Were you going too fast?

Other than paying more attention to the surface, what would you do different in similar situations to avoid a low-side fall?
the rear tire bounced and yielded when it reconnected with the ground.
I was going 35-50mph, I don't know the exact speed but I was in 2nd gear and the bike wasn't leaned very far over so I think it was closer to 35 than 50. The road is a 30mph zone but that corner has a suggested limit sign of 15mph. I don't believe that speed was the problem, just that speed made it worse when I lost the rear. I had just started my throttle roll on. In terms of speed/awareness I was going too fast because I was distracted, though I naturally slowed a bit when I was distracted.

Well, keeping myself from being distracted would help. I ride through a lot of roads with patches of gravel similar to this case and there is usually a line that you can take where you don't run into any problems but because I was distracted I took a standard outside-inside line and crossed right over the gravel patch. Usually when I spot gravel I slow down, look for a safe path and continue slowing down until I find said path. A outside entrance-outside apex-outside exit or A inside entrance/apex/exit line would have been safe in this case.

As I've stated before though, I'm not terribly bummed about it because I consider myself relatively lucky due to my lack of injuries and the relative lack of damage to the bike. It is unfortunate but there are bright sides to it in the long term. Mainly the fact that I get to make my own graffiti paint scheme on the fairing set when I find a replacement fairing on ebay/craigslist.
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Old April 21st, 2014, 08:44 AM   #26
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It looks like you slid across the other lane... Lucky that no cars were coming. You fcked that pavement up good though! If I were you I wouldn't get insurance involved. If the bike's still rideable and you can afford some new gear and some fairings later on, it's probably worth it to keep your rates low and keep yourself on that policy
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I did indeed slide into the other lane, It's a road just far enough out of the way to the point where a car coming the other way would have been a surprise. Usually the only people on the road are people that live there. I'm looking into getting a higher paying job in the near future anyway and with the damage being minimal at worst It should look good as new this summer/fall.
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I might add that with a 2 brothers exhaust you wouldn't have even heard, and subsequently been distracted by, the loud ass dog
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I might add that with a 2 brothers exhaust you wouldn't have even heard, and subsequently been distracted by, the loud ass dog
I think the dog, being a more abrupt sound, would still have been heard. I'll have to test this when I get a louder exhaust someday.


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True, however I don't want to risk totaling it at the track, it's both more reliable than my car and worth a lot more money than my car. If insurance doesn't cover it in the event it's totaled then I'm pretty screwed over. I'd rather risk my 250 that's pretty much worth nothing in terms of finances.

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@Sirref, Very sorry to hear about your crash, I'm glad you and your moto weren't hurt/damaged seriously. Your gear did its job.
that it did, it took a pretty good beating though, a lot of the damage doesn't show up in pictures particularly the jacket. My jacket has a few holes in it and I'm not confident it'll take another hit though it did hold up this time.
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Sucks to hear about the bike. in this case, I wouldn't even take it to the insurance company, your deductible might be more than it is to even fix the bike yourself. Plus it's kinda fun to fix it yourself as long as it's nothing too major, like frame damage.

BTW, AAA is great insurance and covers track days!!!! I tested this with my R6 in october. the only thing they don't cover is timed events or racing. a track day is neither, they just ask for proof that you were at the event(receipt) and that's about it.
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Good to hear that everything ended up working out for you. That's a relatively minor crash, Lucky that you're not hurt at all. People have broken bones in less serious crashes.

I know i'll pay more attention to gravel from now on though.
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BTW, AAA is great insurance and covers track days!!!! I tested this with my R6 in october. the only thing they don't cover is timed events or racing. a track day is neither, they just ask for proof that you were at the event(receipt) and that's about it.
It must vary by state. I have AAA for home and auto, but when I replaced my VN700 with the EX500, they simply told me they don't insure sport bikes. Also, their motorcycle system was completely separate from the other systems. Whereas my home and auto are automatically billed to my card, the motorcycle insurance was a completely separate manual system. I actually found out when I called to switch it over to the Ninja that my policy had lapsed months before, without me even knowing it. I've been with AAA since I started driving, but their motorcycle insurance was one of the worst experiences I've had.


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Sucks to hear about the bike. in this case, I wouldn't even take it to the insurance company, your deductible might be more than it is to even fix the bike yourself. Plus it's kinda fun to fix it yourself as long as it's nothing too major, like frame damage.

BTW, AAA is great insurance and covers track days!!!! I tested this with my R6 in october. the only thing they don't cover is timed events or racing. a track day is neither, they just ask for proof that you were at the event(receipt) and that's about it.
I'm already planning to switch to rider insurance, they're the cheapest around so long as you have had your Mclass license for over a year and they cover track days.

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Got any video bruh?
Unfortunately I don't have a camera, no $$$ for one. I would have posted video already if I had one recording.


also the fact that it could have easily been way worse is the reason why I'm not upset. I am bummed about it but it's far from the end of the world.
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I would suggest Progressive. They are really great for motorcycle insurance and for me it was only a 20 or 40 dollar difference.
When that car hit me they didn't miss a beet and I had a check in a week. Even helped me with theach doctor office.
And they just cut the shop a check for the damage from the 300 falling the other day.
Between that and the awesome customer service they are worth every penny.
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