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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:53 AM   #1
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SPORTISI's NINJA 250/300EFI TURBOCHARGER KIT

Hello guys , here's a teaser video for you more vids will be coming, including dyno charts .

We're developing a turbocharger kit for the ninja 250 EFI and this will also work on the ninja 300 EFI. on stage 1 its running low boost at 0.5bar and on standard engine . we make this kit to be bolt on and make your bike like a sleeper bike, the only difference is the sound of the turbo and BOV which is awesome.

We will make this kit available for the US customers if theres lots of interest from you guys . Im not gonna be answering details of this kit until its truly finished.

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1st dynotesting - comparison between standard , fs exhaust and turbocharging it


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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:59 AM   #2
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lol this is awesome. Sucks I'd have to go EFI first in order to even consider running this setup.
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Gotta have it. Nitrous is a natural intercooler.
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Sounds cool, but I am worried about side effects -- don't want to shorten my engine life or anything. But definitely keep us posted
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yup, this rocks.

except that i'm not efi.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 12:47 PM   #10
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ill take a kit any idea what kind of timeframe were looking at here?
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The video is blocked at work. What turbo are you using?
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We're gonna do a lot of test rides and dynos trying to get the safest setup with the highest performance . Since the US market doesnt have a 95 octane fuel, we may turn down the boost a bit . unless you;re using nitrous like Racer X
We'll keep you guys updated - target hp increase is 30% - so we want to pass 40hp mark for safe daily use for the 250 , and maybe around 48hp for 300.
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Interesting, but skeptical that it'll be engineered correctly. Hope to goodness the boost threshold isn't 10k RPM like it is under free-rev in your video. That would make the turbo worthless around town.

I'll expect to see full RPM range dynos with AFR, and how you're adjusting ignition or can otherwise prove the engine isn't knocking with pump gas. Keep in mind our fuel is rated "AKI" as [R+M]/2, not just RON. On the east coast US, we have ~97 RON, or 93 AKI. The west coast US gets 91 AKI which is 95 RON, same as Indonesia.
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THanks for the information-that way we can adjust the boost the same as in Indones ia.
By maintaining the standard compression we are keeping drivability of the bike until the boost hits, it starts to spool around 5000rpm and hit full boost at 9000rpm. Power commander is use to adjust fuelling and ignition.
Thats why we are testing it extensively , to make sure its safe and reliable for daily use, to look for engine knocks and temperature spikes which can destroy the engine.

and with REVEXTEND feature from powercommander we can increase rev limits up to 14000rpm or more, we have done this to lots of 250
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Will this work with the 2011 ninja? Mine is efi with PCV and auto tune. Also can you give a ball park estimate of how much this will cost?
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cant wait, as long as youll ship to Oz of course we have 95 here also
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we ship anywhere in the world of course but priority will be the US market because our representative is there and he can offer warranty and tech support. but of course you can also contact us directly
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we ship anywhere in the world of course but priority will be the US market because our representative is there and he can offer warranty and tech support. but of course you can also contact us directly
Will this work with the 2011 ninja? Mine is efi with PCV and auto tune. Also can you give a ball park estimate of how much this will cost?
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Will this work with the 2011 ninja? Mine is efi with PCV and auto tune. Also can you give a ball park estimate of how much this will cost?
I believe it will work, if the engine positioning is the same. maybe some tweaking will be needed, but we will do this for you no problem . but you need a good dyno tuner to remap the PC5. Autotune is good for lower rpm ranges and throttles, but no good for higher rpm. You need a dyno tune to do it right
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2nd teaser video FREE RUN ON DYNO AFTER MAPPING

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I am very excited about this. I am building a whole new bike around a turbo fuel injection nitrous system. This will save me a lot of time and money over doing it from scratch.
I like that you are building it as a real world kit .
I just can't wait to see how the other forums react to it. They flame anyone who asked about nitrous or turbo.
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Will this work with the 2011 ninja? Mine is efi with PCV and auto tune. Also can you give a ball park estimate of how much this will cost?
Yes it will work, but you will need to set it up for your bike since the 2011 or better to say the Newgen has a higher cr and the ignition is more advanced and that makes it absolute necessary to set it up cos the setup for the 2013 models must not, but can blow up your engine.
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Yes it will work, but you will need to set it up for your bike since the 2011 or better to say the Newgen has a higher cr and the ignition is more advanced and that makes it absolute necessary to set it up cos the setup for the 2013 models must not, but can blow up your engine.
How can I set it up if I have no dyno etc...
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I am very excited about this. I am building a whole new bike around a turbo fuel injection nitrous system. This will save me a lot of time and money over doing it from scratch.
I like that you are building it as a real world kit .
I just can't wait to see how the other forums react to it. They flame anyone who asked about nitrous or turbo.
We tested the bike couple of times, and it put a smile on my face everytime the boost hit hard Things that we need to do last is testing and more testing, monitoring the engine parameters to make sure that it wont blow up under boost.

We won 3 race titles last year on a ninja 250 - so yes this is an engine that we really know very well. I dont like to talk much , but I want to show results and share with you guys .
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Yes it will work, but you will need to set it up for your bike since the 2011 or better to say the Newgen has a higher cr and the ignition is more advanced and that makes it absolute necessary to set it up cos the setup for the 2013 models must not, but can blow up your engine.
The 2011 250cc and this new 250cc FI ninja share the same compression ratio.
The 300c ninja has even a lower compression ratio of 10.6
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How can I set it up if I have no dyno etc...
That will be a problem . if you have the same exact bike and specs like ours then we can send you the pc5 map no problem. You just plug it in and go .
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I too know this engine. And I have a lot of respect for it. I set seven land speed records at Maxton and four last year in Ohio. Last week with nitrous a got a very strong 50-55 hp. And 24 ft lb of torque. This engine is a jewel.
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The 2011 250cc and this new 250cc FI ninja share the same compression ratio.
The 300c ninja has even a lower compression ratio of 10.6
Maybe the 11.3 from the 2013 and 11.6 from the newgen is no big difference, so you don't need to care about it.
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yes i want one but i have the Area P micro tuner that just has fuel adjust no timing adjustment.Is there any chance that would work?ninja 300

Also what would something like this cost? 500$ 1000$ 1500$
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the micro tuner is the same as DFC from dynojet, they are all made by Dynojet and can use PC5 maps. Yes you can use the micro tuner . So far we tested it no detonation and no problems without a timing retard . Just make sure that the tuner now whats hes doing and adjusting the AFR right for turbo application which is much richer than NA motor .

We're making this kit to be as simple as possible but still safe and reliable for the road. And we are looking for under $1500 price range. The good news for US customers is some parts were sourced from there, and we;re working with our US dealers for these parts, so for you who lives there can get this kit much cheaper or at least the same as our pricing here, cause we;re only sending the parts thats not available there.
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Im a potential customer! Ive built a few turbo mustangs and had thought about fabbing up somthing for my bike. For the price your asking Id be glad to buy one that is allready proven and tuned. Good work!!
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FIRST DYNO TESTING - 37,4HP comparison between standard , fs exhaust and turbocharging it


we're looking for 40hp+ so we're gonna work on this .
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The torque line is awsome. What are you doing for boost retard? Are you pulling the timing? I found power going up by regarding the ignition timing some.
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I still haven't retard the timing for this application until I hear a detonation, I did powerrun repeatedly at 100 percent throttle maybe more than 20 times ,this test is using a lower grade fuel, then on the last 3 runs I heard some detonation on higher rpm then we stop, we poured in some octane booster, and the detonations gone, hit 39hp one time but thats just spike, power stable at 37hp+ .So definitely we will retard the timing and adjust accordingly of course, Retarding the timing is the simplest solution and cheapest because the pc5 already has a built in ignition module.
A radiator upgrade is needed and we will make a bigger capacity radiator and will be an option for this kit .An intercooler setup is also on its way along with a stage 2 hiboost option .
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omg, this just made me want to get a ninja 300! subscribed.
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