2012 Ninja 250 is FINALLY OUT! - Page 3

Xoulrath · August 19th, 2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by etiainen

...wish there was EFI though

This.

I got excited when I saw this post. I thought maybe EFI had been added. Instead, IMO, Kawasaki gives the ugliest color offerings yet and charges more for the bike. Used '08s and '09s never looked better to prospective buyers.

Honko · August 19th, 2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranor

While I don't mind the vinyl I think there should always be the option of solid colours available... Thankfully here in Europe the 2011 range included pearl white as a solid colour I wonder that the 2012 colours will be like for Europe...

EDIT: Added pic :P

So they made a solid pearl white available without the vinyls, but it still has the black tail....

greatwhiteninja · August 19th, 2011, 03:50 PM

they look like they run a black front fender though..unless his is CF.

nightmarechevy · August 19th, 2011, 04:50 PM

I have several pics of my 2012 candy lime green 250 on my photobucket page.

http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...evy/ninja250r/

Heed · August 19th, 2011, 07:03 PM

I don't like the graphics, but the Candy Lime Green looks nice.

nickjpass · August 19th, 2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FF0000

Maybe it's just me, but I REALLY don't like the look of sport bikes these days. The old 80's-90's bike look much more aesthetically pleasing to me. I'll stick with my pre-gen.

I can see why your are saying that. I adore older bikes that had stylish "banana" seats. The boxy seats today look very old. I thought new stuff meant curves? Look at the mustang. It went from, straight, and un-curved. To curved. Why are motorcycles going backwards? Honda totally has lost it in designing there bikes. Kawasaki still has a chance.

TheMojoRider · August 19th, 2011, 10:23 PM

holy smokes! BNG!

Ranor · August 20th, 2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by greatwhiteninja

they look like they run a black front fender though..unless his is CF.

Yea Tail and Front Fender are both stock and they come in black on the white model...

Mr.E · August 20th, 2011, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranor

Yea Tail and Front Fender are both stock and they come in black on the white model...

I honestly like that picture alot. You truely caught the pearl look that many pictures seem to dull out.

LazyMaxy · August 20th, 2011, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by reaubideux

Meh.. don't really care for the graphics on the black and red/black.

Agreed kinda poser-ish

miss_syn · August 20th, 2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by etiainen

SIGH...2008 had the BEST colours hands down, I'm sorry, but I think simplicity wins sometimes...wish there was EFI though

Also I guess this candy green is different than the '08 lime green?

I agree with you on the colors. Maybe I'm just boring though.

ally99 · August 20th, 2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranor

While I don't mind the vinyl I think there should always be the option of solid colours available... Thankfully here in Europe the 2011 range included pearl white as a solid colour I wonder that the 2012 colours will be like for Europe...

LOVE it!

choneofakind · August 20th, 2011, 09:24 AM

I love the more simplistic designs!

etiainen · August 20th, 2011, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xoulrath

This.

I got excited when I saw this post. I thought maybe EFI had been added. Instead, IMO, Kawasaki gives the ugliest color offerings yet and charges more for the bike. Used '08s and '09s never looked better to prospective buyers.

Agreed 100%! I think '08 may have been the best colour year offered. Not to mention, the actual hardware in the bikes is essentially the same, why pay > $400 more?

Doesn't make any sense to me. I'd say new riders who want to buy new are going to have a harder time justifying a brand new 2012 Ninja 250. I think if I was buying from the dealer and I had a choice between the 2012 Ninja and the 2011 CBR250R, I would probably just go for the Honda, because EFI and newer technology would sway me over.

(I'm a commuter the higher MPG is enticing

)

Also having fuel, temp, and everything else right there is nice. Also why pay over $400 more for old tech?

I think $3,999 as the MSRP kept things competitive...and reasonable

Now if that price jump included EFI, I'd be more inclined to trade-in.

etiainen · August 20th, 2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miss_syn

I agree with you on the colors. Maybe I'm just boring though.

I think solid colours just give a bike a more pleasing feel. Least that's what I think. I think going overboard in styling detracts from the bike's overall look and feel.

(Kawasaki...MAKE A DAMN ALL WHITE 250...IT WOULD SEEEEELLLLL!!!)

Sorry for the caps:P

backinthesaddleagain · August 20th, 2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bonbon76

Love this helmet!!! I was looking at this exact one about 2 months ago... I totally agree with you on the scheme. Id be all over it!

Make your own. Ingredients: 1 white bike, dozens of sharpies. Saw this bike in person, really cool.

backinthesaddleagain · August 20th, 2011, 06:05 PM

not a big decals person. in my opinion even my cbr looks better as a 2010 in solid black. mine (2009) has the silver stripes.

nickjpass · August 20th, 2011, 06:10 PM

How long would the Sharpie last :0

backinthesaddleagain · August 20th, 2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

How long would the Sharpie last :0

I forget how many she used.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=37725.0

headshrink · August 20th, 2011, 07:17 PM

I don't think Kawi is REALLY listening to us.... even after the survey a year or two ago, they have made NO changes. It's not like they have to engineer/figure out how to do EFI! For me, $4K was the price point where I would have gone with the 650r, but I got mine in 08, when $3.5K was only after a recent $500 increase!

CThunder-blue · August 20th, 2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by headshrink

I don't think Kawi is REALLY listening to us.... even after the survey a year or two ago, they have made NO changes. It's not like they have to engineer/figure out how to do EFI! For me, $4K was the price point where I would have gone with the 650r, but I got mine in 08, when $3.5K was only after a recent $500 increase!

They will continue to ignore consumers until their sales fall below that of competitors. Then they'll ask themselves why and do research. Until then, we'll probably have carbs for the next 2 decades or until C.A.R.B. mandates another better mpg/cleaner smog bike.

BTW, no blue = insta-fail. I like the candy lime green, but I wouldn't pay for it. Don't much care for red and the graphics on the black are awful.

808yewtube · August 21st, 2011, 01:27 AM

I wish they made them the same height as the 2007 for us extreme shorties!

CZroe · August 21st, 2011, 01:41 AM

Has the 2011 CBR250 price been announced? The USD to Yen is at it's worst since before WWII! I HIGHLY doubt it will retain the $4K MSRP.

ally99 · August 21st, 2011, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CThunder-blue

BTW, no blue = insta-fail. I like the candy lime green, but I wouldn't pay for it. Don't much care for red and the graphics on the black are awful.

Completely agree with this! I do like the new candy lime green, but WTF happened to blue? It's the fastest color, after all! You just don't do away with the fastest color!

etiainen · August 21st, 2011, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

Has the 2011 CBR250 price been announced? The USD to Yen is at it's worst since before WWII! I HIGHLY doubt it will retain the $4K MSRP.

I assume you mean 2012?

No, I don't think it has, but I"m not sure. I had thought that in the other parts of the world the CBR250R is MUCH cheaper than the 250(FI).

Even if the conversion rate is the case, then they'd end up probably being priced the same.

But even at that increased price you'd get a lot more, least when it comes to new technology.

(and the valve checks not at 7500, my first is coming up, and as interested as I am in learning how to do it, the ever approaching cloud of college classwork looms ahead too

)

Jepoy005 · August 21st, 2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etiainen

Agreed 100%! I think '08 may have been the best colour year offered. Not to mention, the actual hardware in the bikes is essentially the same, why pay > $400 more?

Doesn't make any sense to me. I'd say new riders who want to buy new are going to have a harder time justifying a brand new 2012 Ninja 250. I think if I was buying from the dealer and I had a choice between the 2012 Ninja and the 2011 CBR250R, I would probably just go for the Honda, because EFI and newer technology would sway me over.

(I'm a commuter the higher MPG is enticing

)

Also having fuel, temp, and everything else right there is nice. Also why pay over $400 more for old tech?

I think $3,999 as the MSRP kept things competitive...and reasonable

Now if that price jump included EFI, I'd be more inclined to trade-in.

I think the reason why the ninja 250 is around 4500 right now is because japan have a better stock market than us at the moment.

HOPEFULLY this is not the FIXED amount for the 2012 250.

I wont be getting mines until february so i hope the price will slightly drop.

Alex · August 21st, 2011, 08:22 AM

Once the MSRP is announced, it will stay that way all year. The actual selling price depends on the demand in the local area. If there are people to buy them at MSRP+, the discounts are few and far between. If there aren't and the dealers want to discount to move bikes, one can save a bit.

Boom King · August 21st, 2011, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jepoy005

I think the reason why the ninja 250 is around 4500 right now is because japan have a better stock market than us at the moment.

HOPEFULLY this is not the FIXED amount for the 2012 250.

I wont be getting mines until february so i hope the price will slightly drop.

Like Alex said, the MSRP will stay the same, however, what you may get is a Kawasaki manufacturers incentive in your area that in effect, lowers the MSRP. You get the bike at a lower price and Kawasaki off-sets your dealer's cost of buying that bike.

rusninja · August 21st, 2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nightmarechevy

damn! you have all the good toys x]

Jepoy005 · August 21st, 2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Boom King

Like Alex said, the MSRP will stay the same, however, what you may get is a Kawasaki manufacturers incentive in your area that in effect, lowers the MSRP. You get the bike at a lower price and Kawasaki off-sets your dealer's cost of buying that bike.

dang that sux! haha i wish i get some kind of an incentive or i could just bargain my way down! hahahaa

nightmarechevy · August 21st, 2011, 11:03 AM

Thanks. The wife is already making claim to this one so when she gets her license and MSF course I will probably give her this one and get a ZX6R. I'm lucky to have a wife that likes fast toys as much as I do.

etiainen · August 21st, 2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nightmarechevy

Thanks. The wife is already making claim to this one so when she gets her license and MSF course I will probably give her this one and get a ZX6R. I'm lucky to have a wife that likes fast toys as much as I do.

Lucky

headshrink · August 21st, 2011, 12:35 PM

That looks like the green that was on the 650r, in.... 2010 I THINK. I really like that green.

etiainen · August 21st, 2011, 01:09 PM

Sorry, can't agree, I think the 2008 green is superior!

HAHA

Feels more Kawa to me is all.

But to each his own, I'd still take a pure white bike over any other.

Heed · August 21st, 2011, 01:17 PM

Anyone else disappointed in the graphics? :/

I think they're ugly, but they should be optional -- at least offer a solid black color.

How can Kawasaki not give the $4449 '12 fuel injection while the CBR250R (MSRP $3999) is fuel injected as standard?

headshrink · August 21st, 2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heed

Anyone else disappointed in the graphics? :/

Always.

The absolute WORST was, I think, the 2011 (or was it 2010) green with the 80s checkering. Made me wonder if a disgruntled employee designed it before getting fired.

The graphics on the 2012 black reminds me of the FZ6R when it came out (2009?) with that awful giant yellow star graphic. The new ninja isn't THAT bad though.

One thing I have always liked about the Kawi paint schemes, is the solid colors. I think it looks more classy.

etiainen · August 21st, 2011, 01:31 PM

Solid colours win for sure!!!

Oh well:/ I'm definitely happy with my colour, I just wish I could get some new tech into there....I've heard about some definite progress in putting an EFI kit there. Slap that and a Koso RX-2 in there and maybe I'll be ok. Of course, I feel at that point, why couldn't I just get a new bike?

(Poor college kid budget though, not sure if any of that stuff is going to happen)

choneofakind · August 21st, 2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jepoy005

price went up by 400.... haahha hopefully its worth the increase! maybe fuel injected!

When I talked to the Kawi guy at ticket to ride, he said that FI would increase the price by at least 1000 or so. He said they were trying to work out a price but expect it in the US within the next few years

etiainen · August 21st, 2011, 01:37 PM

I would be ok with a 5k MSRP if I got modern gauges and EFI. It would be the perfect bike for me(though my bike is basically already the perfect bike

)

People would still buy them, even if they cost more and had EFI. New demand is going up and not going down, and new riders are increasing day by day. I think a modern ninja would be a sales winner(even though it already is)

EDIT:

Especially in when things like MPG numbers look good. Next summer when fuel prices go even higher, having higher MPG numbers will appeal even more!

As a commuter who essentially only uses a bike to get around, if I saw the MPG numbers for both the Ninja 250 and CBR 250, I'd be really hard pressed to pick up the Ninja over the Honda

DOUBLE EDIT:

I don't think that putting out lean running carbs for better numbers is a good solution....I don't think shimming is a big deal, but it puts off the beginner market.

greatwhiteninja · August 21st, 2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

Make your own. Ingredients: 1 white bike, dozens of sharpies. Saw this bike in person, really cool.

they actually use sharpie paint pens.. most popular ive seen was a lambo gallardo done by some artist , cant rember.. had like 300hrs hrs or some crazy number in drawing on the car..loL! then i believe they clear coated over it to protect it..

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August 20th, 2011, 07:17 PM	#100
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I don't think Kawi is REALLY listening to us.... even after the survey a year or two ago, they have made NO changes. It's not like they have to engineer/figure out how to do EFI! For me, $4K was the price point where I would have gone with the 650r, but I got mine in 08, when $3.5K was only after a recent $500 increase! __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

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August 21st, 2011, 11:03 AM	#111
nightmarechevy ninjette.org member Name: Matt Location: San Angelo, TX Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 ZX6R Posts: 77	Thanks. The wife is already making claim to this one so when she gets her license and MSF course I will probably give her this one and get a ZX6R. I'm lucky to have a wife that likes fast toys as much as I do. __________________________________________________ 2012 Ninja 250 - SOLD 2007 Ninja ZX6R- 2 Bros exhaust, Puig w/s, OES sliders, hid high/low

August 19th, 2011, 04:50 PM	#84
nightmarechevy ninjette.org member Name: Matt Location: San Angelo, TX Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 ZX6R Posts: 77	I have several pics of my 2012 candy lime green 250 on my photobucket page. http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...evy/ninja250r/

August 19th, 2011, 07:03 PM	#85
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	I don't like the graphics, but the Candy Lime Green looks nice.

August 19th, 2011, 10:23 PM	#87
TheMojoRider ninjette.org member Name: Ninja Location: CA Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja! Posts: 77	holy smokes! BNG!

August 20th, 2011, 09:24 AM	#93
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I love the more simplistic designs!

August 20th, 2011, 06:05 PM	#97
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	not a big decals person. in my opinion even my cbr looks better as a 2010 in solid black. mine (2009) has the silver stripes.

August 21st, 2011, 01:27 AM	#102
808yewtube ninjette.org member Name: mrs808 Location: Honolulu Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250EX Posts: 134	I wish they made them the same height as the 2007 for us extreme shorties!

August 21st, 2011, 01:41 AM	#103
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Has the 2011 CBR250 price been announced? The USD to Yen is at it's worst since before WWII! I HIGHLY doubt it will retain the $4K MSRP.

August 21st, 2011, 12:35 PM	#113
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	That looks like the green that was on the 650r, in.... 2010 I THINK. I really like that green. __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

August 21st, 2011, 01:09 PM	#114
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Sorry, can't agree, I think the 2008 green is superior! HAHA Feels more Kawa to me is all. But to each his own, I'd still take a pure white bike over any other.

August 21st, 2011, 01:17 PM	#115
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	Anyone else disappointed in the graphics? :/ I think they're ugly, but they should be optional -- at least offer a solid black color. How can Kawasaki not give the $4449 '12 fuel injection while the CBR250R (MSRP $3999) is fuel injected as standard?

August 21st, 2011, 01:31 PM	#117
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Solid colours win for sure!!! Oh well:/ I'm definitely happy with my colour, I just wish I could get some new tech into there....I've heard about some definite progress in putting an EFI kit there. Slap that and a Koso RX-2 in there and maybe I'll be ok. Of course, I feel at that point, why couldn't I just get a new bike? (Poor college kid budget though, not sure if any of that stuff is going to happen)

August 21st, 2011, 01:37 PM	#119
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	I would be ok with a 5k MSRP if I got modern gauges and EFI. It would be the perfect bike for me(though my bike is basically already the perfect bike) People would still buy them, even if they cost more and had EFI. New demand is going up and not going down, and new riders are increasing day by day. I think a modern ninja would be a sales winner(even though it already is) EDIT: Especially in when things like MPG numbers look good. Next summer when fuel prices go even higher, having higher MPG numbers will appeal even more! As a commuter who essentially only uses a bike to get around, if I saw the MPG numbers for both the Ninja 250 and CBR 250, I'd be really hard pressed to pick up the Ninja over the Honda DOUBLE EDIT: I don't think that putting out lean running carbs for better numbers is a good solution....I don't think shimming is a big deal, but it puts off the beginner market.

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