Speedometer calibration

eljay · August 30th, 2012, 11:14 AM

Is there a way to do it? I haven't done a time trial yet but I have a feeling mine is off by a bit. I know they usually overestimate, but I think mine is underestimating.

Back story:
I was riding behind a friend on an open stretch and we went WOT. I kept pace with him the whole time and didn't see my speedo tick over 140km/hr (87mph).

When we stopped later, he said wow we were doing 175. (~108mph).

So who is right? I'm pretty sure my 140 reading is wrong, though I doubt we were going 175 either. Maybe 150ish if I had to guess?

So back to original question, is there a way to calibrate it so I can at least get some inference from my speedo?

I'm 100% stock everything right now btw.

Jiggles · August 30th, 2012, 11:19 AM

What rpm were u at for 87mph?

Alex · August 30th, 2012, 11:20 AM

The easiest way to confirm speed is with a gps, mounted on the bars or even just slipped into the top pocket of a tankbag. Once the speedo error is learned though, there's not much to easily change so the speedometer shows the correct speed. With an electronic gauge, there are speedo calibration tools that you can put inline from the sensor to allow it to display correctly (speedohealer is a common one). But with our mechanically driven speedometer, that's not possible, without replacing the whole system with one that would rely on an electronic sensor.

eljay · August 30th, 2012, 11:27 AM

Probably a hair over 11k.
That's another thing, I don't seem to be able to get the revs up in 6th.
Sorry, I've only had the bike for almost a week after having a cbr250 so I'm just getting comfortable with the operational differences.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

What rpm were u at for 87mph?

eljay · August 30th, 2012, 11:28 AM

Thanks I should have thought of that. Even knowing what the error is would go a long way to helping out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

The easiest way to confirm speed is with a gps, mounted on the bars or even just slipped into the top pocket of a tankbag. Once the speedo error is learned though, there's not much to easily change so the speedometer shows the correct speed. With an electronic gauge, there are speedo calibration tools that you can put inline from the sensor to allow it to display correctly (speedohealer is a common one). But with our mechanically driven speedometer, that's not possible, without replacing the whole system with one that would rely on an electronic sensor.

Jiggles · August 30th, 2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eljay

Probably a hair over 11k.
That's another thing, I don't seem to be able to get the revs up in 6th.
Sorry, I've only had the bike for almost a week after having a cbr250 so I'm just getting comfortable with the operational differences.

You mean it won't go over 11k in 6th? This is why, your power goes byebye at that point

eljay · August 30th, 2012, 12:21 PM

hehe explained. now just need to get the gps on board and figure out what my speed is there.... and what to do to hop on that blue line...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

You mean it won't go over 11k in 6th? This is why, your power goes byebye at that point

Jiggles · August 30th, 2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eljay

hehe explained. now just need to get the gps on board and figure out what my speed is there.... and what to do to hop on that blue line...

Buy this 18 inch system

http://areapnolimits.com/products/Sl...-250R-2008.php

Panda · August 30th, 2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eljay

Sorry, I've only had the bike for almost a week after having a cbr250 so I'm just getting comfortable with the operational differences.

How come you switched away from the CBR?

eljay · August 30th, 2012, 01:00 PM

It didn't survive a pile driver lol. The price was right on my ninjawhen I got my insurance payout.

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Originally Posted by rPanda

How come you switched away from the CBR?

Old Lemon · August 30th, 2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Buy this 18 inch system

http://areapnolimits.com/products/Sl...-250R-2008.php

nobody wants your poopy area p. get a yoshi bro

Panda · August 30th, 2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eljay

It didn't survive a pile driver lol. The price was right on my ninjawhen I got my insurance payout.

What's your opinion on the CBR versus the Ninja? I almost got a CBR but the person I was going to buy it off of still had a lien on it and blah blah blah I ended up buying a Ninja instead.

Kind of curious what the CBR is like.

Jiggles · August 30th, 2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

nobody wants your poopy area p. get a yoshi bro

Nobody wants the best looking best sounding most powerful exhaust? Well I mean maybe retarded people wouldn't but why would u even go there

Old Lemon · August 30th, 2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Nobody wants the best looking best sounding most powerful exhaust? Well I mean maybe retarded people wouldn't but why would u even go there

trololololololol

Jiggles · August 30th, 2012, 05:16 PM

The Area P would look really great on Unregistered's bike. Unregistered should get one

Old Lemon · August 30th, 2012, 05:19 PM

the yoshi came with the bike when i bought it. and its a 700$ full system i think ill keep it

Asspire · August 30th, 2012, 05:22 PM

eljay's seen it, just gotta convince him to get one.

at 140 km/h on the dash mine is @ 10,000 rpm, but my gps says 129 km/h, never had it past 160 though, gotta show me that road

Asspire · August 30th, 2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

the yoshi came with the bike when i bought it. and its a 700$ full system i think ill keep it

but can your yoshi do this

Link to original page on YouTube.

Old Lemon · August 30th, 2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asspire

but can your yoshi do this

Link to original page on YouTube.

maybe? idk ive never been able to look at my pipe when it pops. Ive only had one HUGE pop when going like 10k rpms in first to no throttle. other than just little ones

Incognito · August 31st, 2012, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The Area P would look really great on Incognito's bike. Incognito should get one

I agree. You should buy one for me for my birthday.

Jiggles · August 31st, 2012, 01:43 AM

Sure thing bud

Sonofswin · August 31st, 2012, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The Area P would look really great on [ you ]'s bike. [ you ] should get one

Hahahaa, never seen that bit of HTML before. Very clever.

But yeah, the AreaP would look good on my bike & I should have picked it up instead of going the cheaper route. I do like the sound and performance of my Tyga system though, just wish they hadn't melted my damn fairings.

Gui_Arruda_BR · August 31st, 2012, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The Area P would look really great on Unregistered's bike. Unregistered should get one

Maaan, I've never seen an Area P. here in Brazil... but, there's a full system for the ninjettes that most of the riders in Copa Ninja (Ninja cup, only 250's on the grid), it's called Jeskap gp pro. The sound is amazing! and we're talking about a big improvement in HP / torque, te system is perfect. the slip on is made in titanium and the remaining is made in carbon steel (not sure of it, but it's something like it hahahaha)

@Jiggles, if you want to send me a Area P for free, I'll be glad to test and advertise it here hahahahaha

edit: that html surprised me! hahahahahaha what kind of sorcery is that!?! oO hahahaha

eljay · August 31st, 2012, 06:18 AM

The CBR is really nice. Everyone already knows the high end torque is not there there way it is on the ninja though. It shoots off the line way better though.
It's a single cylinder and it works like one.
I like how the ninja just goes faster.
Build quality-wise, the Honda is hands down better. It just feels better under you. It's like comparing a new Accord to an ummm I don't know, old Cavalier or something. The EFI and other whizbang stuff is more comforting too.

Running carbs is going to be fun though! Arr I didn't know there was so much back and forth with jetting and shimming until I got on here.

Regarding exhaust, I'm not doing anything wild anytime soon, have to pay for the bike first. I had the danmoto GP on the CBR and loved it, looks and sound and was considering just getting that for fun in the meantime.

Area P results look like desirable outcomes, so maybe later in the winter I'll fiddle with it, Asspire you're gonna help me right? His blue flame is pretty sick, I've seen that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rPanda

What's your opinion on the CBR versus the Ninja? I almost got a CBR but the person I was going to buy it off of still had a lien on it and blah blah blah I ended up buying a Ninja instead.

Kind of curious what the CBR is like.

Somchai · August 31st, 2012, 06:19 AM

Thx Jiggles, but you know my exhaust is the Leovince, best quality and one of the most powerful.
And it has what's most important, equal length in the manifold - this is what you get the most power from.
The oem for cylinder 1 is 30mm longer then cylinder 2...

Aufitt · September 1st, 2012, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The Area P would look really great on Unregistered's bike. Unregistered should get one

Akrapovic only on mine.. all else are ghey.

Jiggles · September 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM

No one can blame you for wanting an inferior product

thomason2wheels · September 6th, 2012, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The Area P would look really great on Unregistered's bike. Unregistered should get one

Mine already has a yosh on it i think....should be picking it up next week i hope. 2009 mean green with less than 1100 miles.....does 3200 sound like a good price for showroom condition?

By the way, i dont think there is anyone that wants nude pics of an old guy.... not even granny. :-)

August 30th, 2012, 11:14 AM	#1
eljay ex cbr Name: eljay Location: toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 27	Speedometer calibration Is there a way to do it? I haven't done a time trial yet but I have a feeling mine is off by a bit. I know they usually overestimate, but I think mine is underestimating. Back story: I was riding behind a friend on an open stretch and we went WOT. I kept pace with him the whole time and didn't see my speedo tick over 140km/hr (87mph). When we stopped later, he said wow we were doing 175. (~108mph). So who is right? I'm pretty sure my 140 reading is wrong, though I doubt we were going 175 either. Maybe 150ish if I had to guess? So back to original question, is there a way to calibrate it so I can at least get some inference from my speedo? I'm 100% stock everything right now btw. Last futzed with by eljay; August 30th, 2012 at 11:15 AM. Reason: clarify there are no mods done.

August 30th, 2012, 11:19 AM	#2
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	What rpm were u at for 87mph? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 30th, 2012, 11:20 AM	#3
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The easiest way to confirm speed is with a gps, mounted on the bars or even just slipped into the top pocket of a tankbag. Once the speedo error is learned though, there's not much to easily change so the speedometer shows the correct speed. With an electronic gauge, there are speedo calibration tools that you can put inline from the sensor to allow it to display correctly (speedohealer is a common one). But with our mechanically driven speedometer, that's not possible, without replacing the whole system with one that would rely on an electronic sensor. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 30th, 2012, 05:16 PM	#15
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	The Area P would look really great on Unregistered's bike. Unregistered should get one __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 31st, 2012, 01:43 AM	#21
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Sure thing bud __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 30th, 2012, 05:19 PM	#16
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	the yoshi came with the bike when i bought it. and its a 700$ full system i think ill keep it

August 30th, 2012, 05:22 PM	#17
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	eljay's seen it, just gotta convince him to get one. at 140 km/h on the dash mine is @ 10,000 rpm, but my gps says 129 km/h, never had it past 160 though, gotta show me that road

August 31st, 2012, 06:19 AM	#25
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Thx Jiggles, but you know my exhaust is the Leovince, best quality and one of the most powerful. And it has what's most important, equal length in the manifold - this is what you get the most power from. The oem for cylinder 1 is 30mm longer then cylinder 2...

September 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM	#27
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	No one can blame you for wanting an inferior product __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

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