Official 2013 Ninja 300 (and 250) Thread - Page 25

ninjaone · September 5th, 2012, 05:27 PM

Comparing claimed HP at the crank throughout the Ninja generations:

Ninja 300:
39 PS @ 11000 RPM
27 N-m @ 10000 RPM

Ninja 250 New Gen:
33 PS @ 11000 RPM
22 N-m @ 8200 RPM

Ninja 250 Pre Gen:
38 PS @ 11000 RPM
24.5 N-m @ 10000 RPM

Z300 · September 5th, 2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broken neck

You lucky sons of Australia...

You'll have the white one...

Pffttt... Not fair...

lol well i just got the bike 2 months ago 250r 6500$ now they seelling 300cc 6800$ gf life

Alex · September 5th, 2012, 07:51 PM

Looks about right, but the pre-gen number changed over the years. The 86/87 model had the most peak hp, and it got dialed back slightly for the '88 redesign. Then a few years in (I think '94) there were some more changes in dialing the timing back, and I thought the compression ratio as well. By the time it got to 2007, the rating wasn't 38 ps.

choneofakind · September 5th, 2012, 08:06 PM

They lowered the rev-limiter too

Compooky · September 5th, 2012, 08:16 PM

Would the Ninja 300 even do well in Australia? No longer selling a 250 there would be stupid due to the license restrictions.

Drdoonta · September 5th, 2012, 09:39 PM

I think the 300cc would be amazing but hopefully its power isnt past the restrictions for the licence id get one if i end up totalling my bike haha i dont want that to happen but damn that white looks so nice

choneofakind · September 5th, 2012, 09:49 PM

pause. Is the headlight on the left side really a fake? I'm confused.

Locksmiff · September 5th, 2012, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compooky

Would the Ninja 300 even do well in Australia? No longer selling a 250 there would be stupid due to the license restrictions.

I am led to believe its still LAMS approved. It's not restricted by engine size. Its restricted to HP.

Based off the below you will be fine

Max Power 29.0 kW / 11,000 rpm

Max Torque 27.0 N.m / 10,000 rpm

silentIm · September 5th, 2012, 11:48 PM

Ninja 300 breaks my heart..

dandj86 · September 5th, 2012, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locksmiff

I am led to believe its still LAMS approved. It's not restricted by engine size. Its restricted to HP.

Based off the below you will be fine

Max Power 29.0 kW / 11,000 rpm

Max Torque 27.0 N.m / 10,000 rpm

Yep it's learner legal, says so on the page that was linked earlier; http://www.kawasaki.com.au/ninja300/

Click on the "No Compromise" link on the above page and you'll see that it states "Learner Legal" across the top.

Also, the LAMS restriction is based on power-to-weight ratio rather than actual HP. The heavier the bike, the more HP it is allowed to have. LAMS approved bikes can also be no larger than 660cc in capacity (in NSW at least).

ninja250r81 · September 6th, 2012, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandj86

Yep it's learner legal, says so on the page that was linked earlier; http://www.kawasaki.com.au/ninja300/

Click on the "No Compromise" link on the above page and you'll see that it states "Learner Legal" across the top.

Also, the LAMS restriction is based on power-to-weight ratio rather than actual HP. The heavier the bike, the more HP it is allowed to have. LAMS approved bikes can also be no larger than 660cc in capacity (in NSW at least).

AND has to be under

150kw per tonne

RiderOnTheStorm · September 6th, 2012, 03:49 AM

I think all sportbikes should be described with an Australian accent.

In love with this bike. I can't wait to see what Sept 13 brings!

Chuffmonkey · September 6th, 2012, 10:37 AM

I just read this article (about the new Z800) and they had this to say about the North American 250:

Quote:

"Team Green has also trumped the quarter-liter market with the debut of the 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 300, a peppier clone of the Kawasaki Ninja 250R world-model that debuted last month (it looks like North American will have to make do with the mundane and carb’d version of the Ninja 250R, sad trombone)."

Maybe it's still just rumour and maybe they're doing to place more differentiation between the 250 and the 300 (displacement and FI means more likely to buy the 300).

headshrink · September 6th, 2012, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

To the OP, I sincerely apologize for not believing you.

Who knew trolls had insider information.

LOL, I've had to eat crow myself many times.... a couple times even here.

I believed the rumor was a possibility because I had received the Kawi owners' servey that addressed displacement; BUT I really thought FI in the would have gotten attention first in the USA . However, I'm sure the surveys weren't all filled out by DIYers.

headshrink · September 6th, 2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

As far as a 300 with 39hp; I'd probably never buy something with that much power. It's only going to get you in trouble.

I know, right? It's just irresponsible of Kawi to put that kind of power in the hands of unsuspecting consumers!

ninjaone · September 6th, 2012, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Looks about right, but the pre-gen number changed over the years. The 86/87 model had the most peak hp, and it got dialed back slightly for the '88 redesign. Then a few years in (I think '94) there were some more changes in dialing the timing back, and I thought the compression ratio as well. By the time it got to 2007, the rating wasn't 38 ps.

If anything it shows how much emissions have choked output on these motors. It takes a 50cc increase to get back to where we were in 1986 power wise, and of course a large helping of extra weight to go along with it.

I'm guessing these new Ninja 300 will really scream with an aftermarket exhaust + power commander.

gt_turbo · September 6th, 2012, 03:03 PM

it's not the first time technology from the track has been applied to street bikes. slipper clutches will definitely make the bike more noob friendly and at the same time a bonus for track riders. personally i enjoy blipping the throttle, but i see no negatives here. everybody wins.

LoD575 · September 6th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

and it's all for LOD575

What do I have to take blame for now?

sheH4TEme2 · September 6th, 2012, 04:51 PM

Nice, I'm excited.

choneofakind · September 6th, 2012, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoD575

What do I have to take blame for now?

Goom · September 6th, 2012, 06:19 PM

I hope we don't get this. I'm not ready to trade my bike in or take on another bike yet. lol

Z300 · September 6th, 2012, 09:31 PM

well i went to the dealer yesterday he said 7800$ or 8000$+ abs

but i know he was talking bs!

ninja250r81 · September 7th, 2012, 01:09 AM

YAS, you sure its BS.

i was looking at some paperwork that read dealerships will be selling around that price.

Drdoonta · September 7th, 2012, 01:32 AM

Also it being a 300 could raise the price abit and its efi so i dunno

Z300 · September 7th, 2012, 02:00 AM

idk but i heard someone else say the dealership told them 6800

300 · September 7th, 2012, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja yas

idk but i heard someone else say the dealership told them 6800

Someone who isn't me got quoted $6990 on road for non-ABS, $7490 on road for ABS...

Edit: Source

AlbernDc · September 9th, 2012, 02:33 PM

Hi I just joined
And this is crazy
So here's my first post
Watch it maybe?

Link to original page on YouTube.

Watch teh volume guys
Salam dari Indonesia

Jiggles · September 9th, 2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlbernDc

Hi I just joined
And this is crazy
So here's my first post
Watch it maybe?

Link to original page on YouTube.

Watch teh volume guys
Salam dari Indonesia

I give your hearing 2 weeks at the most

Stamatos · September 9th, 2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlbernDc

Hi I just joined
And this is crazy
So here's my first post
Watch it maybe?

Link to original page on YouTube.

Watch teh volume guys
Salam dari Indonesia

Pretty bike but ugh, that sounds terrible.

Now should I trade in my '12 250 for a 300 or just save up for a couple years and get a 650 and keep both?

Jiggles · September 9th, 2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stamatos

Pretty bike but ugh, that sounds terrible.

Now should I trade in my '12 250 for a 300 or just save up for a couple years and get a 650 and keep both?

Keep the 250, save up for a few years, skip the 650 and get the 1000

Kstorm21 · September 9th, 2012, 04:13 PM

@Jiggles....so not funny!!! How long has that been there?

Quote:

Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 1000, 2011 Ninja 250, Faster than Kstorm21's 250

Jiggles · September 9th, 2012, 04:15 PM

About as long as the nude pics in my sig

Kstorm21 · September 9th, 2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

About as long as the nude pics in my sig

WOW!!! Didn't see that one either! Not sure if I should be flattered or pissed?

choneofakind · September 9th, 2012, 04:20 PM

haha, it's just the "you" function. Everyone gets confused.

Kstorm21 · September 9th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

haha, it's just the "you" function. Everyone gets confused.

What's the "you" function?

Jiggles · September 9th, 2012, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

WOW!!! Didn't see that one either! Not sure if I should be flattered or pissed?

Either way take a pic of your reaction, I need to add more to the gallery

choneofakind · September 9th, 2012, 04:30 PM

quote this post to see what I mean.

Unregistered

Kstorm21 · September 9th, 2012, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Either way take a pic of your reaction, I need to add more to the gallery

I'll get that right to ya.

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

quote this post to see what I mean.

Unregistered

I see.

LoneRonin · September 11th, 2012, 10:57 AM

its still early but does anyone think the Woodcraft clip ons will fit on this? Can any of you overseas guys confirm?

alex.s · September 11th, 2012, 11:39 AM

love the slipper addition. in fact, love everything about it except for the 300cc part... why 300cc? i suppose if they keep the 250 engine for racing its not an issue... but if they ditch the 250 for 300 only i'll be sad

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September 5th, 2012, 05:27 PM	#961
ninjaone ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Phx Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): CBR Posts: 145	Comparing claimed HP at the crank throughout the Ninja generations: Ninja 300: 39 PS @ 11000 RPM 27 N-m @ 10000 RPM Ninja 250 New Gen: 33 PS @ 11000 RPM 22 N-m @ 8200 RPM Ninja 250 Pre Gen: 38 PS @ 11000 RPM 24.5 N-m @ 10000 RPM

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choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	They lowered the rev-limiter too

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September 5th, 2012, 09:39 PM	#966
Drdoonta ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Blue mountains Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 ninja 250r Posts: 56	I think the 300cc would be amazing but hopefully its power isnt past the restrictions for the licence id get one if i end up totalling my bike haha i dont want that to happen but damn that white looks so nice

September 5th, 2012, 09:49 PM	#967
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	pause. Is the headlight on the left side really a fake? I'm confused.

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RiderOnTheStorm ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: El Paso, TX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Blue 08 250 - Blue Magic Posts: 162	I think all sportbikes should be described with an Australian accent. In love with this bike. I can't wait to see what Sept 13 brings!

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gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	it's not the first time technology from the track has been applied to street bikes. slipper clutches will definitely make the bike more noob friendly and at the same time a bonus for track riders. personally i enjoy blipping the throttle, but i see no negatives here. everybody wins.

September 6th, 2012, 04:51 PM	#979
sheH4TEme2 ninjette.org member Name: Diefullah Location: youtube.com/sheh4teme2 Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 18	Nice, I'm excited.

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Goom ninjette.org guru Name: Eric Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1976 CB550 Cafe, 2011 Ninja 250, 1999 Honda CR125 Posts: 264	I hope we don't get this. I'm not ready to trade my bike in or take on another bike yet. lol

September 6th, 2012, 09:31 PM	#982
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	well i went to the dealer yesterday he said 7800$ or 8000$+ abs but i know he was talking bs!

September 7th, 2012, 01:09 AM	#983
ninja250r81 ninjette.org guru Name: scott Location: australia Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r se Posts: 435	YAS, you sure its BS. i was looking at some paperwork that read dealerships will be selling around that price.

September 7th, 2012, 02:00 AM	#985
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	idk but i heard someone else say the dealership told them 6800

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choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	haha, it's just the "you" function. Everyone gets confused.

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choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	quote this post to see what I mean. Unregistered

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alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	love the slipper addition. in fact, love everything about it except for the 300cc part... why 300cc? i suppose if they keep the 250 engine for racing its not an issue... but if they ditch the 250 for 300 only i'll be sad __________________________________________________

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