I despise USPS

subxero · May 24th, 2013, 09:53 AM

Start rant-

On numerous occasions i have fallen victim to the crappy USPS service. I try to avoid using them for anything if i can help it. Will often choose a different vender even at a higher cost if i notice that the cheaper one uses USPS in any form.

Few weeks ago i ordered jets, They never got delivered, It said unable to deliver as addressed. 1hr after this got posted i called USPS to find out where my package was and that it had to be in town at a center somewhere and i would just pick it up. They said "well that is not our policy, and it is most certainly already being sent back to the sender, there is no way you can get this package" Great, i really wanted this package like yesterday so i am super excited about waiting another week. Contacted sender, they said they will refund when they get the package back. Ok thats good, so i reorder so i can get my jets ASAP. A few days go by and finally get my jets i re ordered. 2 days later, I get the original order as well, WTF!? Just goes to show their customer service doesn't know what is going on, they have no info on your package, where it is, what it is doing, they are clueless and just tell you BS because they have no clue.

So ordered some parts for my dirtbike early last week. Normally if i order by Wednesday from anywhere east of Texas with ground i easily get packages by or on following Friday. So i ordered lots of stuff from various websites all on the same day. One in Texas, and 2 in TN. I received one from TN 2 days ago, the one from TX Yesterday, and the other from TN that has been in USPS hands has showed no movement since Wednesday 22nd. Despite being 2hrs away from my house on Wednesday the expected delivery is Tuesday 28th. I thought the package was coming UPS, but i should have looked closer to see that the shipper uses UPS in conjunction with USPS. So i call USPS and say look, there is no reason for this to take 3 days to travel 2hrs, when it traveled from TN to OH in 1 day (UPS leg) Then transferred to USPS in OH then from OH to NY then to PA in 2days, not to mention why it went from OH to Buffalo NY in the first place instead of just straight to PA. Please just tell me where my package is, what USPS office it is just sitting at collecting dust and I will walk there, pick it up and walk back to my place before USPS can deliver it using whatever methods they use these days? Obviously they have no information on the package and have no clue where it is, only that it is "in transit" which translates into, (we have no clue where it is, how it is being moved or if it is being moved at all, but we do know that you have not received it yet, and we can only tell you that because you personally just told us that)

End rant

Z-Trob · May 24th, 2013, 10:11 AM

yeah they are the worst couriers by far. i have had 3 orders now that have not made it to me which i have had to go pick up myself. they were labeled something like "unable to deliver as addressed" or some other BS like that. i get the package and clear as day it has the correct address of my house on it... UPS and Fed-ex can find my house just fine, but those other clowns don't seem to have a clue.

sLick415 · May 24th, 2013, 10:23 AM

I like usps. Only courier thats comes in the morning. Not freakin 5 in the afternoon.

subxero · May 24th, 2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sLick415

I like usps. Only courier thats comes in the morning. Not freakin 5 in the afternoon.

5 in the afternoon a day or 2 sooner

sLick415 · May 24th, 2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

5 in the afternoon a day or 2 sooner

Nah Im never home to get my packages from UPS. Usually just do will call.

antiant · May 24th, 2013, 01:39 PM

Before you rant, you should understand how the system works. Why did it say undeliverable as addressed? Did the shipper type or print the wrong address? How did the shipper send it, did they send it first class mail w/tracking? Express Mail, Priority Mail or Standard Post? Depending on the class of mail the shipper chooses, determines the amount of days you will receive your package. UPS and FEDEX have a contract with USPS. Those companies (again depends on the shipper and what they choose as it's usually cheaper for them) drop the packages off at the closest USPS facility, then USPS takes control of it and carries on the delivery.

Here's the thing, when UPS and FEDEX deliver them to USPS, it will tell the customer that the package was dropped off at the USPS facility, which confuses customers because those don't get processed (usually) until the next day. If you live in a large city with a huge population, then no, USPS can't just find your package if it hasn't been fully processed as these things are in bags, crates and so forth with a million of other people's packages. Also, the shipper and or tracking should give you the expected delivery date, if you want it faster, then you need to pay for that. Express Mail is the only class of mail that gives you a guaranteed delivery date or your money back, every other class of mail is "expected/estimated." If you have any questions about any of this, feel free to ask me.

NealWright · May 24th, 2013, 04:31 PM

I prefer USPS ... Priority Mail is the best value out there! 2-3 day delivery, online tracking, and seldom spend over $10.

For deliveries ... I prefer USPS, but it does help to have a good relationship with your route carrier.

Thanks, Neal

voidrider · May 24th, 2013, 07:02 PM

We have a "hidden house" that is off the street the address is on, up an alleyway...

UPS finds us, I have had perhaps 2-3 shipments that were delayed out of perhaps a hundred.

Fed Ex, seem to find the house about a third of the time. The last time they turned the parcel over to the USPS to deliver!!! So that came in days late and was related to a contract I was working. FUN! NOT!

The other couriers out there....OMG, probably can't find our town...

j98sprint · June 30th, 2013, 05:55 PM

I work for these clowns. Management is incompetent, as is most of the government. Complain, a lot. Nothing gets corrected without lots of complaints.

However, Priority mail is a good value.

JohnnyBravo · June 30th, 2013, 06:37 PM

I like the postal service better than FedEx... If I wanted my boxes thrown in the middle of the walkway of my apartments I'd do it myself! The post office puts them in a mailbox, ups rings the bell or leaves them in the front office.

ChaoSS · July 4th, 2013, 05:14 AM

I like USPS. Get something sent to my PO box and I can pick it up at my convenience. Get something from UPS or FedEx they drive around the cul de sac and chuck it over my fence. So, if I happen to notice it, I'll get it, or if I get notification that it's been delivered, I can go look in the weeds. If it isn't something that can be broken, of course.

Soujyu · July 4th, 2013, 07:32 AM

The only time I trust USPS is for EMS/Express Mail. Think about it, the more money you pay, the more likely you'll get good service.

I don't even trust Priority Mail, for goodness sake!

I use DHL and FedEx a lot myself for shipping from overseas stores, particularly from Taiwan, Japan, and Hong Kong.

baxtc1 · July 4th, 2013, 02:19 PM

Everything I buy from America is sent usps, I can track it accross America, but once it hits Australia it falls off the planet, not heard of again until it lands on the door step.

Daks · July 8th, 2013, 09:26 PM

I use USPS to mail things because I like the old timey feel of Post Offices o:

A lot of **** can go wrong with the mail and they haven't ****ed up for me yet.
Meanwhile UPS has robbed my family of an heirloom painting by what we assume was breaking the glass in the frame it was in, destroying it as damaged and then saying they came 3 separate times when someone was always home those three days
The painting was one of three my mimi gave to her children when she passed. She didn't have money but this painting was hanging in their childhood home and went to my uncle.

He never got it. They never owned up and claimed it was his fault.

So yeah, as far as what brown can do for me, they can go **** themselves.

ajcadoo · July 14th, 2013, 02:59 PM

USPS = government run. They could care less if your precious gift item/shopping purchase is delivered. It has no effect on them.

They have a monopoly on cheap delivery services. I work at a retail shipping outlet and it is unbelievable the amount of people who complain about USPS. Most don't realize that they technically aren't liable for items that are lost/misdelivered unless it is insured.

Remember: if you have expensive/valuable goods needing transport: always insure it through UPS/FedEx. They are private enterprises. Their business model requires at least decent service.

May 24th, 2013, 09:53 AM	#1
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	I despise USPS Start rant- On numerous occasions i have fallen victim to the crappy USPS service. I try to avoid using them for anything if i can help it. Will often choose a different vender even at a higher cost if i notice that the cheaper one uses USPS in any form. Few weeks ago i ordered jets, They never got delivered, It said unable to deliver as addressed. 1hr after this got posted i called USPS to find out where my package was and that it had to be in town at a center somewhere and i would just pick it up. They said "well that is not our policy, and it is most certainly already being sent back to the sender, there is no way you can get this package" Great, i really wanted this package like yesterday so i am super excited about waiting another week. Contacted sender, they said they will refund when they get the package back. Ok thats good, so i reorder so i can get my jets ASAP. A few days go by and finally get my jets i re ordered. 2 days later, I get the original order as well, WTF!? Just goes to show their customer service doesn't know what is going on, they have no info on your package, where it is, what it is doing, they are clueless and just tell you BS because they have no clue. So ordered some parts for my dirtbike early last week. Normally if i order by Wednesday from anywhere east of Texas with ground i easily get packages by or on following Friday. So i ordered lots of stuff from various websites all on the same day. One in Texas, and 2 in TN. I received one from TN 2 days ago, the one from TX Yesterday, and the other from TN that has been in USPS hands has showed no movement since Wednesday 22nd. Despite being 2hrs away from my house on Wednesday the expected delivery is Tuesday 28th. I thought the package was coming UPS, but i should have looked closer to see that the shipper uses UPS in conjunction with USPS. So i call USPS and say look, there is no reason for this to take 3 days to travel 2hrs, when it traveled from TN to OH in 1 day (UPS leg) Then transferred to USPS in OH then from OH to NY then to PA in 2days, not to mention why it went from OH to Buffalo NY in the first place instead of just straight to PA. Please just tell me where my package is, what USPS office it is just sitting at collecting dust and I will walk there, pick it up and walk back to my place before USPS can deliver it using whatever methods they use these days? Obviously they have no information on the package and have no clue where it is, only that it is "in transit" which translates into, (we have no clue where it is, how it is being moved or if it is being moved at all, but we do know that you have not received it yet, and we can only tell you that because you personally just told us that) End rant

May 24th, 2013, 10:11 AM	#2
Z-Trob ninjette.org member Name: Zach Location: Allentown PA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 99 250, 06 Speed Triple, 2009 husky 510SMR Posts: 36	yeah they are the worst couriers by far. i have had 3 orders now that have not made it to me which i have had to go pick up myself. they were labeled something like "unable to deliver as addressed" or some other BS like that. i get the package and clear as day it has the correct address of my house on it... UPS and Fed-ex can find my house just fine, but those other clowns don't seem to have a clue. __________________________________________________ Muzzy, Pods, 112 mains w/ 2 washers, fender delete, polished rims/tripple tree, WC clip-ons, adjustable levers, soupy's dogbones

June 30th, 2013, 06:37 PM	#10
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I like the postal service better than FedEx... If I wanted my boxes thrown in the middle of the walkway of my apartments I'd do it myself! The post office puts them in a mailbox, ups rings the bell or leaves them in the front office. __________________________________________________

July 4th, 2013, 07:32 AM	#12
Soujyu ninjette.org sage Name: W Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (sold), 2012 Tuono V4R Posts: 512	The only time I trust USPS is for EMS/Express Mail. Think about it, the more money you pay, the more likely you'll get good service. I don't even trust Priority Mail, for goodness sake! I use DHL and FedEx a lot myself for shipping from overseas stores, particularly from Taiwan, Japan, and Hong Kong. __________________________________________________ 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R - "Aria" (sold) 2012 Aprilia Tuono V4R - "Perrine" Proof that Harleys and Ninjettes are friendly with each other

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May 24th, 2013, 10:23 AM	#3
sLick415 ninjette.org guru Name: Danny Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 263	I like usps. Only courier thats comes in the morning. Not freakin 5 in the afternoon.

May 24th, 2013, 01:39 PM	#6
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	Before you rant, you should understand how the system works. Why did it say undeliverable as addressed? Did the shipper type or print the wrong address? How did the shipper send it, did they send it first class mail w/tracking? Express Mail, Priority Mail or Standard Post? Depending on the class of mail the shipper chooses, determines the amount of days you will receive your package. UPS and FEDEX have a contract with USPS. Those companies (again depends on the shipper and what they choose as it's usually cheaper for them) drop the packages off at the closest USPS facility, then USPS takes control of it and carries on the delivery. Here's the thing, when UPS and FEDEX deliver them to USPS, it will tell the customer that the package was dropped off at the USPS facility, which confuses customers because those don't get processed (usually) until the next day. If you live in a large city with a huge population, then no, USPS can't just find your package if it hasn't been fully processed as these things are in bags, crates and so forth with a million of other people's packages. Also, the shipper and or tracking should give you the expected delivery date, if you want it faster, then you need to pay for that. Express Mail is the only class of mail that gives you a guaranteed delivery date or your money back, every other class of mail is "expected/estimated." If you have any questions about any of this, feel free to ask me.

May 24th, 2013, 04:31 PM	#7
NealWright ninjette.org member Name: Neal Location: Indiana Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Ninja 250 Posts: 40	I prefer USPS ... Priority Mail is the best value out there! 2-3 day delivery, online tracking, and seldom spend over $10. For deliveries ... I prefer USPS, but it does help to have a good relationship with your route carrier. Thanks, Neal

May 24th, 2013, 07:02 PM	#8
voidrider ninjette.org member Name: Sam Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 1996 Kawasaki Ninja 250, 2000 Kawasaki Super Sherpa Posts: 79	We have a "hidden house" that is off the street the address is on, up an alleyway... UPS finds us, I have had perhaps 2-3 shipments that were delayed out of perhaps a hundred. Fed Ex, seem to find the house about a third of the time. The last time they turned the parcel over to the USPS to deliver!!! So that came in days late and was related to a contract I was working. FUN! NOT! The other couriers out there....OMG, probably can't find our town...

June 30th, 2013, 05:55 PM	#9
j98sprint ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Crossville, Tn. Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): '02 Ninja 250, '98 Triumph Sprint 900, '69 H-D Sportster XLCH 900 Posts: 80	I work for these clowns. Management is incompetent, as is most of the government. Complain, a lot. Nothing gets corrected without lots of complaints. However, Priority mail is a good value.

July 4th, 2013, 05:14 AM	#11
ChaoSS ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Goshen CA Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 red 250 ninja Posts: 740	I like USPS. Get something sent to my PO box and I can pick it up at my convenience. Get something from UPS or FedEx they drive around the cul de sac and chuck it over my fence. So, if I happen to notice it, I'll get it, or if I get notification that it's been delivered, I can go look in the weeds. If it isn't something that can be broken, of course.

July 4th, 2013, 02:19 PM	#13
baxtc1 ninjette.org member Name: Robert Location: South of you blokes. Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '92 GPX 250 (Gone and replaced with '08 V-Strom), 2005 Suzuki C50. Posts: 186	Everything I buy from America is sent usps, I can track it accross America, but once it hits Australia it falls off the planet, not heard of again until it lands on the door step.

July 8th, 2013, 09:26 PM	#14
Daks Jersey Devil Name: Daks Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '06 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	I use USPS to mail things because I like the old timey feel of Post Offices o: A lot of ** can go wrong with the mail and they haven't ed up for me yet. Meanwhile UPS has robbed my family of an heirloom painting by what we assume was breaking the glass in the frame it was in, destroying it as damaged and then saying they came 3 separate times when someone was always home those three days The painting was one of three my mimi gave to her children when she passed. She didn't have money but this painting was hanging in their childhood home and went to my uncle. He never got it. They never owned up and claimed it was his fault. So yeah, as far as what brown can do for me, they can go ** themselves.

July 14th, 2013, 02:59 PM	#15
ajcadoo Towster ['__'`,-, Name: Josh Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Green Ninja 250 SE Posts: 379	USPS = government run. They could care less if your precious gift item/shopping purchase is delivered. It has no effect on them. They have a monopoly on cheap delivery services. I work at a retail shipping outlet and it is unbelievable the amount of people who complain about USPS. Most don't realize that they technically aren't liable for items that are lost/misdelivered unless it is insured. Remember: if you have expensive/valuable goods needing transport: always insure it through UPS/FedEx. They are private enterprises. Their business model requires at least decent service.