A Pre/New Gen Comparison

cullenjames · February 3rd, 2012, 02:11 PM

I'm sure somebody may have already beat me to the punch with showing this site, but I just wanted to make sure since I found it so helpful.

The author of the page goes over in detail each and every aspect of the two bikes that may or may not be selling points for a potential buyer. For anyone on the rocks about which Gen to get, like me, this page may help you come to a decision (even though I still don't know which one to get

).

http://www.theyeagergroup.com/Compar...ninja_250s.htm

Alex · February 3rd, 2012, 02:13 PM

Iron Ninjas!! Battle of the 250s!

akima · February 3rd, 2012, 02:46 PM

@cullenjames: I'll give that a read. Based on the words of the pre-2008 ninjette riders here though, I'd be very happy with that bike if I couldn't afford a newer one. I wanted a new/almost-new bike for my first bike to reduce the chance of getting a dodgy/faulty bike, so that kinda ruled out the pre-2008 ninjette for me. I didn't want to be forced into dealing with electrical/mechanical failures while simultaneously learning to ride: there's so much to learn even without those kind of problems!

Also the newer one looks prettier. I still likes the look of the older pre-2008 ninjette too though! <3 ninjettes!

cullenjames · February 3rd, 2012, 03:51 PM

@akima Those New Gens are fricking sexy... but based on the article, they're a little bit more difficult to do maintenance on (I can't confirm that).

I'm stuck with the dilemma, but I'm leaning towards a pre-gen since they're a bit cheaper, are typically more forgiving for a beginner, and get a bit getter gas mileage. But then they don't look quite as cool.

Also, if you ever plan on taking a girl on a ride, apparently the muffler positioning on the new-gens makes it difficult for the passenger on foot placement.

Definitely a good article, though.

akima · February 3rd, 2012, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cullenjames

Also, if you ever plan on taking a girl on a ride, apparently the muffler positioning on the new-gens makes it difficult for the passenger on foot placement.

LOL. So the muffler doesn't like women or something? If I have a guy passenger it wont try and get in the way of his feet?

sombo · February 3rd, 2012, 03:58 PM

Now now now akima, he's new and didn't know any better.

If you plan on doing two-up riding on a pre-gen I highly suggest getting at least a new-gen series rear shock and progressive fork springs installed. The pre-gen's suspension is a little too soft and the added weight of a passenger would easily bottom it out on small bumps and make it a bit more unsettled when riding.

johnjohn · February 3rd, 2012, 04:15 PM

Look for a real pre-gen, the ZZR 250H. Not a half hearted F model. More farkles that they left off the F to cheapen it for the masses.

cullenjames · February 3rd, 2012, 04:46 PM

Oops, is Akima a girl? If so my apologies, haha.

I was less talking about the suspension and anyone rider's/passenger's weight and more talking about foot placement in regards to the slightly higher angle on the New-gen. I might be wrong though. I know little to nothing and willingly admit to it.

MustangGuy · February 3rd, 2012, 05:52 PM

I got my pre-gen - a 2007, the last year - this past October and I love it - no complaints. If you end up getting a pre-gen, check it out well, of course, before you sign on the dotted line. I love the looks of it... I wouldn't say "classic" because it is too new to truely be classic, but it is definitely styling from a decade or so ago. The new-gens are beautifully styled... hopefully I will be getting one next year, but I still want to hang on to my pre-gen too. Happy hunting!

choneofakind · February 3rd, 2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjohn

Look for a real pre-gen, the ZZR 250H. Not a half hearted F model. More farkles that they left off the F to cheapen it for the masses.

There's more parts that are made for the F variation. Handles just as well/better with a few small things like J shock and fork springs and tires.

"A" · February 3rd, 2012, 06:07 PM

Majority of riders are not going to keep a Ninja 250 as their only bike, most new riders learn on the Ninja 250 then move on...

If I were a beginner rider looking for my first bike, I wouldn't waste my money on a post-gen Ninja 250 since there are plenty of pre-gens available at much lower prices.

The convenience of having a centerstand and lighter weight are far more important than "sexy" looks. To me post-gen Ninja 250 just looks like any other sportbike at a glance. If I want a sportbike, I would get a real sportbike to ride.

If Ninja 250 is going to be your first ride, get one that you don't mind crashing.. chances are high that you will dump your first bike.

Malicious Logic · February 3rd, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cullenjames

@akima Those New Gens are fricking sexy... but based on the article, they're a little bit more difficult to do maintenance on (I can't confirm that).

I'm stuck with the dilemma, but I'm leaning towards a pre-gen since they're a bit cheaper, are typically more forgiving for a beginner, and get a bit getter gas mileage. But then they don't look quite as cool.

Also, if you ever plan on taking a girl on a ride, apparently the muffler positioning on the new-gens makes it difficult for the passenger on foot placement.

Definitely a good article, though.

How are the pre-gens any more forgiving for a beginner than the new-gens? And I'd assume it'd be just as tricky on a pre-gen for passenger footing considering they have 2 exhaust pipes to worry about and from the picture in that article, they look like they're mounted in a similar angle.

I personally can't stand the looks of the pre-gen. No, looks aren't everything but to some, they definitely matter. The fact that new-gen 250's look like any other sportbike at a glance is a MAJOR selling point for me as a beginner rider. Then again, maybe I should listen to "A" and get a 600 since I want a sport bike. Hope the reaper is ready for me..

sombo · February 3rd, 2012, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjohn

Look for a real pre-gen, the ZZR 250H. Not a half hearted F model. More farkles that they left off the F to cheapen it for the masses.

Half-hearted? What does that mean?

You do realize he's in the US where we don't have the ZZR? It would be more work and hassle for him to get a ZZR for use on the US roads than to just get a true pre-gen (ZZR is a mid-gen

) and just make any upgrades he thinks it needs.

Jono · February 3rd, 2012, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Logic

How are the pre-gens any more forgiving for a beginner than the new-gens?

I think they handle a drop better? But idk. I would describe it maybe not as less forgiving but it is easier to forgive cause you can buy cheap parts. <-- Not worded well. But from my recent experience and one reason why I bought the pregen was because it is so cheap to find used parts when you do crash it. And there are so many DIY and other helpful articles. But don't get me wrong the newgen is getting more and more support. And as they get older used parts will be much cheaper when people keep crashing their Ninjettes. The new gens are now 4 years old. That isn't all that new.

It is also easier to forgive yourself when you crash a pregen vs a newen because, Pregens become better looking when their front portion of the bike shatters into pieces. Can't say the same for a newgen.

Despite my pregens not so purty front end looks, I don't mind because I am not looking at the front of it when I am riding it.

Oh and best of all. It is cheaper! It is my first bike so I figured I would either drop it and/or crash it so why not buy a cheap, cool, practical bike. But I am also a college student who doesn't make a lot of money, but if I had the cash I probably would've bought a newgen. Just for it's sexy looks.

akima · February 4th, 2012, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

It is also easier to forgive yourself when you crash a pregen vs a newen because, Pregens become better looking when their front portion of the bike shatters into pieces.

Burst out laughing when I read that for some unknown reason! I think it's because the pre-2008 ninjette is a bit of an ugly duckling (BUT STILL LOVELY!), so the thought of it's fairings being smashed to pieces but it still retaining equal attractiveness is kinda funny! Poor things!

Quote:

Originally Posted by "A"

If I want a sportbike, I would get a real sportbike to ride.

sombo · February 4th, 2012, 03:10 PM

My pre-gen and I are NOT amused. In case you forgot, that's what almost all sport bikes looked like back in the late 80's to early 90's. It's not ugly, just outdated tyvm.

choneofakind · February 4th, 2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sombo

My pre-gen and I are NOT amused. In case you forgot, that's what almost all sport bikes looked like back in the late 80's to early 90's. It's not ugly, just outdated tyvm.

AMEN!!! Quoted for Truth!!

Mik is quite beautiful in my eyes thank you! I keep her clean and scratch free and give her new parts when I think they're needed! hmpf!

akima · February 4th, 2012, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sombo

My pre-gen and I are NOT amused. In case you forgot, that's what almost all sport bikes looked like back in the late 80's to early 90's. It's not ugly, just outdated tyvm.

lmao. Sorry Sombo's pre-gen! You're beautiful in your own... unique... kinda way

(I do actually like pre-gens btw!)

(On a completely unrelated note, I do actually quite like the ugly ducking.

)

Jono · February 4th, 2012, 03:56 PM

Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE my pregen but it is just not that pretty compared to the newgen. My bike was almost scratch free and was always very pretty before I crashed. I got many complements on her, but I am just not a big fan of the 80's/early 90's sportbike look.

Yasko · February 4th, 2012, 09:45 PM

I never thought I would own a pre gen, but by sure chance I found one like new for $1k. How could I pass that up? With the extra cash, I was able to get a Shoei, Oxtar boots, and all my other gear and bags right away.

The style has grown on me, and now I love the classic look of the pre gen. It's become very hard for me to part with this bike now, because it's so dang cheap to operate.

Much to my surprise, I get a lot of complements from young guys.

massacremasses · February 4th, 2012, 10:07 PM

newgen FTW!!!

eff the haters!!

choneofakind · February 4th, 2012, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

newgen FTW!!!

eff the haters!!

*waves around all that money that he didn't spend on a newgen* $1600 for a bike with 6300 miles. Check please

massacremasses · February 4th, 2012, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

*waves around all that money that he didn't spend on a newgen* $1600 for a bike with 6300 miles. Check please

$2500 for a bike with 3000 miles!!

choneofakind · February 4th, 2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

$2500

$900 son!

massacremasses · February 4th, 2012, 10:34 PM

3300 less miles and how many years newer?

choneofakind · February 4th, 2012, 10:52 PM

puuu-leeeaase! 3000 miles??

that's nothing. and it was sitting in a garage. Age doesn't make a difference unless it was outside.

AlanDog · February 4th, 2012, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

newgen FTW!!!

Well, we'll have to drag race when you get it going... we can trade bikes and try, too (if you're willing)... oh crap, I have 15/45 gearing! Definitely slower off the line vs. stock gearing... You'll smoke me. Well, it'd be fun to try.

choneofakind · February 4th, 2012, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanDog

oh crap, I have 15/45 gearing! Definitely slower off the line vs. stock gearing... You'll smoke me. Well, it'd be fun to try.

Lemme get this one sometime. I got 14/47 gearing, and he's got 25lbs on me, and his bike has 20 lbs on my bike

I wanna take Justin DOOOWWWN!

*cracks neck as menacingly as possible*

massacremasses · February 5th, 2012, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanDog

Well, we'll have to drag race when you get it going... we can trade bikes and try, too (if you're willing)... oh crap, I have 15/45 gearing! Definitely slower off the line vs. stock gearing... You'll smoke me. Well, it'd be fun to try.

haha Im down Alan! We can help Cullen decide which one he wants

cullenjames · February 5th, 2012, 03:15 PM

I think I'm leaning towards a pre-gen as of the moment. Better technology, no choke, can actually see how much you have left in the tank, way sexier. I think I'd prefer more power mid-range rather than top-end since I plan on eventually graduating to the twistys.

choneofakind · February 5th, 2012, 03:30 PM

cullenjames you mean a new-gen?

btw, they still have a choke and carbs. And both newgen and pregen are plenty fun in the twisties. The newgen is just a little better package right out of the box. Both bikes need some modifications, but both are still fun.

You don't need to see how much you have left in the tank. That's what the reserve is for

the temp gauge is important though, and the newgens don't have those

cullenjames · February 5th, 2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

cullenjames you mean a new-gen?

Yes, I'm an idiot.

Thought they upgraded to fuel injection for the new-gens. O well, it's not difficult, just tedious on cold mornings...

I like that you don't have to purchase a new seat cowl on the new-gens. My bike will be my baby and I won't overheat her.

choneofakind · February 5th, 2012, 03:51 PM

Fuel injection is on the European models.

Alex · February 5th, 2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cullenjames

I like that you don't have to purchase a new seat cowl on the new-gens. My bike will be my baby and I won't overheat her.

Huh? The seat cowl is an optional accessory on the new gen's , and is unavailable on the pregens. I don't know what it has to do with overheating.

cullenjames · February 5th, 2012, 04:12 PM

I want fuel injection.

Those were two separate thoughts. I'm going to baby my bike so I won't have to worry about it overheating.

Jono · February 5th, 2012, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cullenjames

I want fuel injection.

Those were two separate thoughts. I'm going to baby my bike so I won't have to worry about it overheating.

CBR 250 is FI.

The still can get pretty hot if your stuck in bad traffic and it is 100 degrees out. But it still shouldn't over heat. It is nice to see the temp though. Specially when it is cold out and you want to know if the engine is warm enough to rev up high! I don't ask a lot from my ninja when she is still cold. Same for my car. Let em warm up!

FrugalNinja250 · February 5th, 2012, 04:47 PM

My only thoughts WRT which gen is better for me:

I like the pregen because they're much less expensive to buy with very low miles, and more importantly, because the valve adjustments require only labor, no parts. Though the newgen's valve adjustment interval is longer (7,500mi vs 6000mi) the process requires purchasing shims on the newgen. It also requires removing cams and subsequent time spent making sure cam timing is correct upon reassembly. Plus, you have to purchase or otherwise obtain shims.

Replacement parts such as fairings and tank are becoming extremely high for the pregen compared to the newgen. It's not uncommon to see folks asking several hundred dollars for tanks and fairings with extensive damage. It's been almost six years since the last pregen rolled off the assembly line so this is to be expected.

Personally, I like the pregen's looks over the newgen. To me, the newgen "angry stinger in the air" body look is very unappealing.

choneofakind · February 5th, 2012, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I don't know what it has to do with overheating.

He's talking about the temp gauge on pre-gen's vs the newgens not having a temp gauge because I mentioned the pregens having a temp gauge.

cullenjames the temp gauge is nice to know when the bike is up to temp, rather than when it's overheating. Just because you baby it doesn't mean it won't over heat. They cool better when they're under load and being worked. Without the temp gauge, there's really no way of knowing when the bike is up to temp.

massacremasses · February 6th, 2012, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

He's talking about the temp gauge on pre-gen's vs the newgens not having a temp gauge because I mentioned the pregens having a temp gauge.

cullenjames the temp gauge is nice to know when the bike is up to temp, rather than when it's overheating. Just because you baby it doesn't mean it won't over heat. They cool better when they're under load and being worked. Without the temp gauge, there's really no way of knowing when the bike is up to temp.

get a koso digital gauge with a temp gauge stuckon the side. Problem solved.

250rr · February 6th, 2012, 10:11 AM

"Personally, I like the pregen's looks over the newgen. To me, the newgen "angry stinger in the air" body look is very unappealing."

That's why there are two body styles, that angry stinger is the main reason I think the newgen looks better!

February 3rd, 2012, 02:11 PM	#1
cullenjames ninjette.org member Name: Cullen Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 32	A Pre/New Gen Comparison I'm sure somebody may have already beat me to the punch with showing this site, but I just wanted to make sure since I found it so helpful. The author of the page goes over in detail each and every aspect of the two bikes that may or may not be selling points for a potential buyer. For anyone on the rocks about which Gen to get, like me, this page may help you come to a decision (even though I still don't know which one to get ). http://www.theyeagergroup.com/Compar...ninja_250s.htm

February 3rd, 2012, 02:13 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Iron Ninjas!! Battle of the 250s! __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

February 4th, 2012, 10:07 PM	#21
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	newgen FTW!!! eff the haters!! __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

February 4th, 2012, 10:34 PM	#25
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	3300 less miles and how many years newer? __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

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akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	@cullenjames: I'll give that a read. Based on the words of the pre-2008 ninjette riders here though, I'd be very happy with that bike if I couldn't afford a newer one. I wanted a new/almost-new bike for my first bike to reduce the chance of getting a dodgy/faulty bike, so that kinda ruled out the pre-2008 ninjette for me. I didn't want to be forced into dealing with electrical/mechanical failures while simultaneously learning to ride: there's so much to learn even without those kind of problems! Also the newer one looks prettier. I still likes the look of the older pre-2008 ninjette too though! <3 ninjettes!

February 3rd, 2012, 03:51 PM	#4
cullenjames ninjette.org member Name: Cullen Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 32	@akima Those New Gens are fricking sexy... but based on the article, they're a little bit more difficult to do maintenance on (I can't confirm that). I'm stuck with the dilemma, but I'm leaning towards a pre-gen since they're a bit cheaper, are typically more forgiving for a beginner, and get a bit getter gas mileage. But then they don't look quite as cool. Also, if you ever plan on taking a girl on a ride, apparently the muffler positioning on the new-gens makes it difficult for the passenger on foot placement. Definitely a good article, though.

February 3rd, 2012, 03:58 PM	#6
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	Now now now akima, he's new and didn't know any better. If you plan on doing two-up riding on a pre-gen I highly suggest getting at least a new-gen series rear shock and progressive fork springs installed. The pre-gen's suspension is a little too soft and the added weight of a passenger would easily bottom it out on small bumps and make it a bit more unsettled when riding.

February 3rd, 2012, 04:15 PM	#7
johnjohn ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Caledonia, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): Honda, Buell, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha Posts: 170	Look for a real pre-gen, the ZZR 250H. Not a half hearted F model. More farkles that they left off the F to cheapen it for the masses.

February 3rd, 2012, 04:46 PM	#8
cullenjames ninjette.org member Name: Cullen Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 32	Oops, is Akima a girl? If so my apologies, haha. I was less talking about the suspension and anyone rider's/passenger's weight and more talking about foot placement in regards to the slightly higher angle on the New-gen. I might be wrong though. I know little to nothing and willingly admit to it.

February 3rd, 2012, 05:52 PM	#9
MustangGuy ninjette.org member Name: Roy Location: Cathedral City, CA Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 650 Posts: 164	I got my pre-gen - a 2007, the last year - this past October and I love it - no complaints. If you end up getting a pre-gen, check it out well, of course, before you sign on the dotted line. I love the looks of it... I wouldn't say "classic" because it is too new to truely be classic, but it is definitely styling from a decade or so ago. The new-gens are beautifully styled... hopefully I will be getting one next year, but I still want to hang on to my pre-gen too. Happy hunting!

February 3rd, 2012, 06:07 PM	#11
"A" vampire Name: A Location: IT Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2 many 2 list Posts: A lot.	Majority of riders are not going to keep a Ninja 250 as their only bike, most new riders learn on the Ninja 250 then move on... If I were a beginner rider looking for my first bike, I wouldn't waste my money on a post-gen Ninja 250 since there are plenty of pre-gens available at much lower prices. The convenience of having a centerstand and lighter weight are far more important than "sexy" looks. To me post-gen Ninja 250 just looks like any other sportbike at a glance. If I want a sportbike, I would get a real sportbike to ride. If Ninja 250 is going to be your first ride, get one that you don't mind crashing.. chances are high that you will dump your first bike.

February 4th, 2012, 03:10 PM	#16
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	My pre-gen and I are NOT amused. In case you forgot, that's what almost all sport bikes looked like back in the late 80's to early 90's. It's not ugly, just outdated tyvm.

February 4th, 2012, 03:56 PM	#19
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE my pregen but it is just not that pretty compared to the newgen. My bike was almost scratch free and was always very pretty before I crashed. I got many complements on her, but I am just not a big fan of the 80's/early 90's sportbike look.

February 4th, 2012, 09:45 PM	#20
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I never thought I would own a pre gen, but by sure chance I found one like new for $1k. How could I pass that up? With the extra cash, I was able to get a Shoei, Oxtar boots, and all my other gear and bags right away. The style has grown on me, and now I love the classic look of the pre gen. It's become very hard for me to part with this bike now, because it's so dang cheap to operate. Much to my surprise, I get a lot of complements from young guys.

February 4th, 2012, 10:52 PM	#26
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	puuu-leeeaase! 3000 miles?? that's nothing. and it was sitting in a garage. Age doesn't make a difference unless it was outside.

February 5th, 2012, 03:15 PM	#30
cullenjames ninjette.org member Name: Cullen Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 32	I think I'm leaning towards a pre-gen as of the moment. Better technology, no choke, can actually see how much you have left in the tank, way sexier. I think I'd prefer more power mid-range rather than top-end since I plan on eventually graduating to the twistys.

February 5th, 2012, 03:30 PM	#31
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	cullenjames you mean a new-gen? btw, they still have a choke and carbs. And both newgen and pregen are plenty fun in the twisties. The newgen is just a little better package right out of the box. Both bikes need some modifications, but both are still fun. You don't need to see how much you have left in the tank. That's what the reserve is for the temp gauge is important though, and the newgens don't have those

February 5th, 2012, 03:51 PM	#33
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Fuel injection is on the European models.

February 5th, 2012, 04:12 PM	#35
cullenjames ninjette.org member Name: Cullen Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 32	I want fuel injection. Those were two separate thoughts. I'm going to baby my bike so I won't have to worry about it overheating.

February 5th, 2012, 04:47 PM	#37
FrugalNinja250 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Frugal Location: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: A lot.	My only thoughts WRT which gen is better for me: I like the pregen because they're much less expensive to buy with very low miles, and more importantly, because the valve adjustments require only labor, no parts. Though the newgen's valve adjustment interval is longer (7,500mi vs 6000mi) the process requires purchasing shims on the newgen. It also requires removing cams and subsequent time spent making sure cam timing is correct upon reassembly. Plus, you have to purchase or otherwise obtain shims. Replacement parts such as fairings and tank are becoming extremely high for the pregen compared to the newgen. It's not uncommon to see folks asking several hundred dollars for tanks and fairings with extensive damage. It's been almost six years since the last pregen rolled off the assembly line so this is to be expected. Personally, I like the pregen's looks over the newgen. To me, the newgen "angry stinger in the air" body look is very unappealing.

February 6th, 2012, 10:11 AM	#40
250rr ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Mark Location: Portland Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): Cheap Italian Suit. Otherwise known as Dew Kitty Posts: A lot.	"Personally, I like the pregen's looks over the newgen. To me, the newgen "angry stinger in the air" body look is very unappealing." That's why there are two body styles, that angry stinger is the main reason I think the newgen looks better!