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Old May 17th, 2018, 03:56 PM   #1
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Was the MSF course too quick for you?

Hi all.

I signed up for an MSF course in a few weeks, but as it usually does, my social/general anxiety about all things is kicking in. My main concern is that there won't be enough time for me to really feel comfortable with certain maneuver they will be teaching before the instructors move on to another one.

I have driven a manual transmission car for almost 10 years, so I'm pretty confident in learning to shift; I just have to get the muscle memory and foot/hand coordination down.

Did you feel like there was enough time throughout the course to try each of the things they taught, or did it feel a bit rushed?

I won't even mention having to take a skills test with everyone watching, it goes without saying that my brain is pooping itself thinking about that.

Not sure if it matters, but the course I'll be taking is the one offered by Delta College in MI.

Thanks in advance.
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Old May 17th, 2018, 04:28 PM   #2
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Stop thinking so hard, you're making this more difficult than it has to be. The MSF course is literally intended to be a course for beginners. You're a beginner. You'll do fine.
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Old May 17th, 2018, 04:29 PM   #3
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Hi Zavier,

I can tell you first hand, its fast paced. You get about 3-4 hours tops to get used to the friction zone. It might sound impossible, instead of focusing on the negative... focus on the positive. The course is set up for YOUR SUCCESS, not to fail you. Go in with an open mind and common sense, you will come out will a cert for your endorsement and have some experience to build upon.

Its not a be all, end all course. Its a launch pad.

Good luck and for Pete sake... don't forget to have fun.

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Old May 18th, 2018, 08:28 AM   #4
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Hi Zavier,

I can tell you first hand, its fast paced. you get about 3-4 hours tops to get used to the friction zone. It might sound impossible, instead of focusing on the negative... focus on the positive. The course is set up for YOUR SUCCESS, not to fail you. Go in with an open mind and common sense, you will come out will a cert for your enforcement and have some experience to build upon.

Its not and be all, end all course. Its a launch pad.

Good luck and for Pete sake... don't forget to have fun.


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Old May 18th, 2018, 08:50 AM   #5
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It will be fine.

Don't think about how you may look to others if struggling with a certain aspect of the training. Focus on the material and learning to operate the controls proficiently.

Everyone there is learning. Because you have experience with a manual transmission you are already way ahead, so keep that in-mind if you start to feel nervous or anxious.

When you complete the course you will be a more competent rider than most on the road.

There is still plenty to learn, so always be open-minded. Learn to anticipate what's coming, have an escape plan, and remove yourself from a situation that doesn't feel right.

And have fun!

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Old May 18th, 2018, 09:38 AM   #6
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I can say that it has gotten a lot better since the new format. More on bike time and less classroom.

I also, agree with everyone else, and would like to add: your learning does not end in 2 days. You should take an active role in practicing your newly learned skills often, and in a safe environment.
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Old May 18th, 2018, 09:56 AM   #7
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I had enough time to practice the skills. Breathe. It's ok. Like everybody else says, everybody in the class is learning. And yes, they want you to succeed. Breathe.
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Old May 18th, 2018, 10:22 AM   #8
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MSF is short and it is supposed to only provide basics. That is does. You really don't need more than 2-3 exercises to get comfortable with friction zone. I constantly see students who have never driven manual and have no experience using clutch getting pretty confident by the end of day 1 and singing inside their helmets on day 2

relax and enjoy
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Old May 18th, 2018, 01:31 PM   #9
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Yes, MSF time is for learning ideas, basic mental stuff. Then you'll spend next couple months actually practicing those skills and developing muscle memory that makes it more automatic. Things like braking, shifting, stopping and putting foot down, etc. It takes hundreds, thousands of hours of practice after MSF to master the skills taught. So don't worry about becoming an expert rider in one day, you'll do fine.
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