DIY- Woodcraft Clipon Install - Page 11

kkim · May 9th, 2011, 07:14 PM

the turning radius of the bike remains the same, if that's what you're asking.

kingkang204 · May 9th, 2011, 07:24 PM

Oh, what I meant to ask was would a leverage effect come
Into place meaning that if you initiate a lean (same amount of push) on the stock and clip-ons would you get more lean out of the clip-ons because of the shorter bar length.

xer0x · June 29th, 2011, 07:37 PM

Just a fyi for drilling the holes in the woodcraft clip on bars. I used a 7/64 bit and it fit perfect and snug!

kkim · June 29th, 2011, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xer0x

Just a fyi for drilling the holes in the woodcraft clip on bars. I used a 7/64 bit and it fit perfect and snug!

7/64 or 7/32?

xer0x · June 29th, 2011, 09:39 PM

I used a 7/64, was a little more snug fit

kkim · June 30th, 2011, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xer0x

I used a 7/64, was a little more snug fit

thanks for the clarification. so, I guess anything between 7/32 and 7/64 will work.

ninjaknobs · July 2nd, 2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

Yeah, that's what I am hoping. Dunno... but the reach for me is sorta long. I'm pretty short and liked the cbr600s cause the reach over the tank was short compared to the other 600s. The 250 with the clipons just feels "large" now, with a long reach over the tank to the bars. I guess for taller riders, this would be an excellent mod to make the bike feel "bigger".

Nice installation walkthrough!
I installed mine a few months back and love them. CNC machined, perfect fit.. excellent quality. Took some time, and like you said its not something you rush/do half-ass. Being a short rider myself it is still comfortable being more stretched over the tank. I noticed now their is more weight on your hands/wrists, but i wouldn't go back to the stock set-up. Canyon riding is better now, i lean over the tank and hang off slightly and my arms aren't as bent and cramped as before

ninjaknobs · July 2nd, 2011, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkang204

Oh, what I meant to ask was would a leverage effect come
Into place meaning that if you initiate a lean (same amount of push) on the stock and clip-ons would you get more lean out of the clip-ons because of the shorter bar length.

You can have the woodcraft clip-ons the same width as stock if you like, i personally narrowed them about a half inch per side max. The wider you have the bars.. the more leverage you have to turn the bike and less effort needed. Since its a light bike it was never an issue

gt_turbo · July 16th, 2011, 08:05 AM

can anyone confirm if these preload adjuster will work with woodcraft slip ons? are there any other preferred preload adjuster manufacturers?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-09...Q5fAccessories

Zombiphone · July 16th, 2011, 08:18 AM

They do, indeed. The woodcrafts are precisely what they're running in the pictures in the auction as well.

I don't know of any other make of preload adjusters, but I don't currently have any qualms with those slingshot racing ones.

ratlab · July 16th, 2011, 10:21 PM

slingshot adjusters seem to be pretty nice-i installed those and my wc clip-ons at the same time-i would prefer the clip-ons to be lower with a more downward angle, but i can't see anyway to do that without cutting the the fairing

Nemesis · July 22nd, 2011, 09:58 AM

Question for those who purchase these: Anyone else notice you can't angle these more than 45 degrees (or whatever the maximum angle is) because of the riser tower hitting the triple clamp?

The woodcraft clipons on my 600RR don't have that problem.

Vampyre · July 22nd, 2011, 10:21 AM

Yes I noticed, but that is what we have to live with. I do not find it an issue. Much more angle and it would hit stuff anyway.

EddieNewYork · July 22nd, 2011, 10:56 AM

Question... how does one tell if they have the universal WC clip ons or the ones specificly desinged for the 250? I have a set, but don't know which ones I have.

Domagoj · July 23rd, 2011, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieNewYork

Question... how does one tell if they have the universal WC clip ons or the ones specificly desinged for the 250? I have a set, but don't know which ones I have.

Well, the clamps should have 2.5" rise. Bars are always the same, so no problems there.

Another measurement is 37mm, but I am not sure if that is the clamp inner diameter or clamp height. Never gave it much thought... I will measure them when I get to my bike tomorrow.
If you know the part number of your clip-ons, it should be 12-4537.

edit:
If the clamps fit your fork, (37mm diameter) you should be ok.

gt_turbo · July 24th, 2011, 06:23 PM

ordered my woodcraft clip-ons from richard, very fast shipping and great price!

. installed them yesterday with the help of the DIY master KKim. install went pretty smooth. stripped out 2 hex heads that hold the brackets to forks, while attempting to check that the bolts were tight. becareful and don't strip the heads like me.

but it's ok, i rode my bike over the weekend for half an hour ride on the high way and then some twistys today. i like the new position, allows you to tuck much better. and definitely a lot easier to flick in the corners. i think this is a must do if you enjoy the twistys.

only thing is i might have to re-route my brake line as it seems to hit the gauge cluster at full turn. and there is a tiny bit of rubbing on the fairing from the throttle cables. but my paint job is not that great anyhow, got the bike used so i can live with that.

edit: there is really noticeable wobble in my handle bars when i take my hands off while travelling at about 40-60 mph. maybe my air pressure is off, or the tire needs to be balanced. tires are still the originals and bike is sitting at 6000 miles. thinking about changing them out, but i don't know what's best. i'd like to get new tires that will maintain the awesome handling characteristics for the twistys. don't really care for the "bigger" back tire look.

luken18 · August 13th, 2011, 11:40 PM

Thanks so much for posting this!!! I studied it to help with putting on my clip on handle bars. I love them!!

LoD575 · August 29th, 2011, 09:25 PM

Got my clip ons installed today but still working out final fitment tweaks. Also did the zip-tie throttle mod, replaced factory grips, and installed shorty levers.

Hopefully will be able to finish tweaking tomorrow.

Can't wait to ride it.

THE BIG SITT · September 12th, 2011, 12:41 PM

So since we can't view these pictures anymore, are there any DIYs for these that include pictures?

Momaru · September 12th, 2011, 02:38 PM

I'm working on getting the pics back up from a hardcopy I have of the original. Check back in a few days.

Crriiissss · September 22nd, 2011, 07:07 PM

Any luck with the hard copies? I should be getting mine in a couple of days and could really use the help..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momaru

I'm working on getting the pics back up from a hardcopy I have of the original. Check back in a few days.

Momaru · September 22nd, 2011, 07:52 PM

Well, erm. I posted all of the photos in an album (here). Just waiting on Alex to integrate them into the OP.

In case he doesn't get to it in time, you can just go to the album. The pics are in reverse order, so start on the last pic on the last page. The last 11 pics (or first 11 you see when you follow the link) are for the bar end DIY that also disappeared.

Alex · September 22nd, 2011, 08:53 PM

Hi Paul - I've been negligent.

I will get to it, I promise, but it might be a little while.

Momaru · September 22nd, 2011, 09:21 PM

Negligent my foot! I know you're a busy guy, Mr. "118 posts this week" and there's a lot to do here as the admin.

Thanks for working so hard to restore these DIYs. If I can help more, just let me know.

kobachi · September 25th, 2011, 08:59 AM

THE BIG SITT · September 25th, 2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momaru

Well, erm. I posted all of the photos in an album (here). Just waiting on Alex to integrate them into the OP.

In case he doesn't get to it in time, you can just go to the album. The pics are in reverse order, so start on the last pic on the last page. The last 11 pics (or first 11 you see when you follow the link) are for the bar end DIY that also disappeared.

Alex · September 26th, 2011, 11:29 PM

All pics have been replaced in the first few posts. Big thanks to Paul for finding 'em, recreating them, and cataloging them correctly.

ninja250 · September 27th, 2011, 05:38 AM

Paul is good people.

THE BIG SITT · October 19th, 2011, 12:54 PM

Those of you who have done this, how long do you think it took you from start to finish?

Liuser · October 19th, 2011, 12:57 PM

A little under 3 hours... I tend to take my time though.

THE BIG SITT · October 19th, 2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liuser

A little under 3 hours... I tend to take my time though.

Ouch… My local dealer quoted me $60-$80 for the job…. hmmmmmmm

Liuser · October 19th, 2011, 03:21 PM

You can do it yourself, it's not all that difficult. I don't have that much experience working on these things myself.

The main 2 challenges that I encountered were:

1. Getting the handlebar grips off. Get a heatgun to melt/heat the glue so that it is more malleable. Then use a long screw driver with a wrench/clamp at the end so that it acts as pivot so that you have leverage to turn that sucker. I used dish washing soap with some water as others advised to get it to slip off easily.

2. Disassembling the left handlebar where the clutch cable resided so that you can put it on the new clip-ons was a bit scary for me. Remember where everything goes so you can put it back together.

k-os · October 19th, 2011, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liuser

You can do it yourself, it's not all that difficult. I don't have that much experience working on these things myself.

The main 2 challenges that I encountered were:

1. Getting the handlebar grips off. Get a heatgun to melt/heat the glue so that it is more malleable. Then use a long screw driver with a wrench/clamp at the end so that it acts as pivot so that you have leverage to turn that sucker. I used dish washing soap with some water as others advised to get it to slip off easily.

2. Disassembling the left handlebar where the clutch cable resided so that you can put it on the new clip-ons was a bit scary for me. Remember where everything goes so you can put it back together.

A very easy way to get the grips off is to blast some air underneath them with an air compressor and they'll lift and slide right down.

THE BIG SITT · November 1st, 2011, 06:24 PM

Finally had them installed today. I Just had the dealer do it haha… I wanted to ensure I could ride it today (70 degrees on November 1st!) so I just said screw it and had the professionals install it.

I must say, the new clip-ons are awesome! I love the new position!

But what have you guys done to cover the holes on the top of the forks? It looks kinda awkward with nothing there. I saw the preload fork adjusters, but $105 seems a little steep...

kevheads · November 1st, 2011, 06:35 PM

I here ya BIG SITT, I'm still off work from surgery but couldn't pass up this weather for Nov. 1st. Not many more riding days left here in the mid-west.

RedOctober · November 1st, 2011, 07:57 PM

Took about 2 hours to install today. Just got back from a testdrive...bike feels completely different, must easier to flick it around. With my height, 5'10", stock bars made my hands bend at the elbow which I think is why some of the force when trying to countersteer went into the downward motion (I've noticed this with myself). Now, hands are stretched out, any movement flicks it. And my lower back is telling me that my posture has changed as well

Install itself went fine. Had to drill out the left handlebar bolt after stripping the head, but no biggie. The rest went pretty simple.

Momaru · November 3rd, 2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BIG SITT

Finally had them installed today. I Just had the dealer do it haha… I wanted to ensure I could ride it today (70 degrees on November 1st!) so I just said screw it and had the professionals install it.

I must say, the new clip-ons are awesome! I love the new position!

But what have you guys done to cover the holes on the top of the forks? It looks kinda awkward with nothing there. I saw the preload fork adjusters, but $105 seems a little steep...

I wound up ordering some of the fork caps from Shinto for $20... They arrived almost a year after I placed the order. Not bad for the price and look pretty decent, but worthless for what I wanted 'em for because my forks started to rust while waiting, wound up having to replace the seals.

Think there's other suppliers out there now.

THE BIG SITT · November 3rd, 2011, 06:18 PM

Man those Shinto guys don't seem to have a very good reputation. I guessing they're the company people always talk about but never mention the name?

CZroe · November 5th, 2011, 03:14 AM

Wow. Are you guys saying that the forks will rust frim the inside without caps? I need to cap 'em then. I thought they looked kinda cool the way they were!

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BIG SITT

Man those Shinto guys don't seem to have a very good reputation. I guessing they're the company people always talk about but never mention the name?

Yep.

gogoKawi · November 5th, 2011, 04:08 PM

kkim, thanks for the DIY. I just installed mine after about 2 hours of messing around to make sure everything was lined up right. But great instructions.

The only issue I had was with the screw that holds the clutch lever. It snapped while unscrewing it. It was always a little wobbly, but I wasn't expecting it to break. Everything else was great. Thanks again for the great DIY!

June 29th, 2011, 07:37 PM	#403
xer0x ninjette.org newbie Name: Anthony Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r Posts: 4	Just a fyi for drilling the holes in the woodcraft clip on bars. I used a 7/64 bit and it fit perfect and snug! __________________________________________________ AP 18" CF Race Exhaust,K&N R-0990,Factory Pro Jet Kit,Kleen Air System Removed, Woodcraft Clipons, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Galfer Brake Lines, EBC HH Brake Pads, Shogun Frame Sliders

June 29th, 2011, 09:39 PM	#405
xer0x ninjette.org newbie Name: Anthony Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r Posts: 4	I used a 7/64, was a little more snug fit __________________________________________________ AP 18" CF Race Exhaust,K&N R-0990,Factory Pro Jet Kit,Kleen Air System Removed, Woodcraft Clipons, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Galfer Brake Lines, EBC HH Brake Pads, Shogun Frame Sliders

July 24th, 2011, 06:23 PM	#416
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	ordered my woodcraft clip-ons from richard, very fast shipping and great price! . installed them yesterday with the help of the DIY master KKim. install went pretty smooth. stripped out 2 hex heads that hold the brackets to forks, while attempting to check that the bolts were tight. becareful and don't strip the heads like me. but it's ok, i rode my bike over the weekend for half an hour ride on the high way and then some twistys today. i like the new position, allows you to tuck much better. and definitely a lot easier to flick in the corners. i think this is a must do if you enjoy the twistys. only thing is i might have to re-route my brake line as it seems to hit the gauge cluster at full turn. and there is a tiny bit of rubbing on the fairing from the throttle cables. but my paint job is not that great anyhow, got the bike used so i can live with that. edit: there is really noticeable wobble in my handle bars when i take my hands off while travelling at about 40-60 mph. maybe my air pressure is off, or the tire needs to be balanced. tires are still the originals and bike is sitting at 6000 miles. thinking about changing them out, but i don't know what's best. i'd like to get new tires that will maintain the awesome handling characteristics for the twistys. don't really care for the "bigger" back tire look. Last futzed with by gt_turbo; July 25th, 2011 at 06:15 AM.

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September 22nd, 2011, 07:52 PM	#422
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	Well, erm. I posted all of the photos in an album (here). Just waiting on Alex to integrate them into the OP. In case he doesn't get to it in time, you can just go to the album. The pics are in reverse order, so start on the last pic on the last page. The last 11 pics (or first 11 you see when you follow the link) are for the bar end DIY that also disappeared. __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

May 9th, 2011, 07:14 PM	#401
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	the turning radius of the bike remains the same, if that's what you're asking.

May 9th, 2011, 07:24 PM	#402
kingkang204 ninjette.org guru Name: Matthew Location: Washington Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): Bike-less, Can I ride yours? Posts: 318	Oh, what I meant to ask was would a leverage effect come Into place meaning that if you initiate a lean (same amount of push) on the stock and clip-ons would you get more lean out of the clip-ons because of the shorter bar length.

July 16th, 2011, 08:05 AM	#409
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	can anyone confirm if these preload adjuster will work with woodcraft slip ons? are there any other preferred preload adjuster manufacturers? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-09...Q5fAccessories

July 16th, 2011, 08:18 AM	#410
Zombiphone CVMA/AFM #72 Name: Tiffani Location: Los Angeles, Ca Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Racebike), 2015 FZ-07(Tourer), 2001 KX65(LOL bike) Posts: A lot.	They do, indeed. The woodcrafts are precisely what they're running in the pictures in the auction as well. I don't know of any other make of preload adjusters, but I don't currently have any qualms with those slingshot racing ones.

July 16th, 2011, 10:21 PM	#411
ratlab ratlab Name: reese Location: tracy, ca Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): gsxr1000,R3x2,RC390,FZ07,XR100 Posts: 132	slingshot adjusters seem to be pretty nice-i installed those and my wc clip-ons at the same time-i would prefer the clip-ons to be lower with a more downward angle, but i can't see anyway to do that without cutting the the fairing

July 22nd, 2011, 09:58 AM	#412
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	Question for those who purchase these: Anyone else notice you can't angle these more than 45 degrees (or whatever the maximum angle is) because of the riser tower hitting the triple clamp? The woodcraft clipons on my 600RR don't have that problem.

July 22nd, 2011, 10:21 AM	#413
Vampyre ninjette.org sage Name: Joseph Location: Winter Park, FL Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R Black, 2005 ZX-6R Blue Posts: 623	Yes I noticed, but that is what we have to live with. I do not find it an issue. Much more angle and it would hit stuff anyway.

July 22nd, 2011, 10:56 AM	#414
EddieNewYork "Hey, That's My Bike" Name: Eddie Location: Pasadena, CA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 88 Honda ZB50, 01 Honda Monkey, 07 CRF50, Honda CBR 600RR Phoenix Edition Posts: 188	Question... how does one tell if they have the universal WC clip ons or the ones specificly desinged for the 250? I have a set, but don't know which ones I have.

August 13th, 2011, 11:40 PM	#417
luken18 ninjette.org newbie Name: Luke Location: tasmania, australia Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250 special edition Posts: 1	Thanks so much for posting this!!! I studied it to help with putting on my clip on handle bars. I love them!!

August 29th, 2011, 09:25 PM	#418
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	Got my clip ons installed today but still working out final fitment tweaks. Also did the zip-tie throttle mod, replaced factory grips, and installed shorty levers. Hopefully will be able to finish tweaking tomorrow. Can't wait to ride it.

September 12th, 2011, 12:41 PM	#419
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	So since we can't view these pictures anymore, are there any DIYs for these that include pictures?

September 22nd, 2011, 08:53 PM	#423
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September 22nd, 2011, 09:21 PM	#424
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	Negligent my foot! I know you're a busy guy, Mr. "118 posts this week" and there's a lot to do here as the admin. Thanks for working so hard to restore these DIYs. If I can help more, just let me know. __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

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October 19th, 2011, 12:54 PM	#429
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	Those of you who have done this, how long do you think it took you from start to finish?

October 19th, 2011, 12:57 PM	#430
Liuser ninjette.org member Name: Dean Location: Santa Barbara Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r Posts: 18	A little under 3 hours... I tend to take my time though.

October 19th, 2011, 03:21 PM	#432
Liuser ninjette.org member Name: Dean Location: Santa Barbara Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r Posts: 18	You can do it yourself, it's not all that difficult. I don't have that much experience working on these things myself. The main 2 challenges that I encountered were: 1. Getting the handlebar grips off. Get a heatgun to melt/heat the glue so that it is more malleable. Then use a long screw driver with a wrench/clamp at the end so that it acts as pivot so that you have leverage to turn that sucker. I used dish washing soap with some water as others advised to get it to slip off easily. 2. Disassembling the left handlebar where the clutch cable resided so that you can put it on the new clip-ons was a bit scary for me. Remember where everything goes so you can put it back together.

November 1st, 2011, 06:24 PM	#434
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	Finally had them installed today. I Just had the dealer do it haha… I wanted to ensure I could ride it today (70 degrees on November 1st!) so I just said screw it and had the professionals install it. I must say, the new clip-ons are awesome! I love the new position! But what have you guys done to cover the holes on the top of the forks? It looks kinda awkward with nothing there. I saw the preload fork adjusters, but $105 seems a little steep...

November 1st, 2011, 06:35 PM	#435
kevheads ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: central Illinois Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Green 250R Posts: 346	I here ya BIG SITT, I'm still off work from surgery but couldn't pass up this weather for Nov. 1st. Not many more riding days left here in the mid-west.

November 1st, 2011, 07:57 PM	#436
RedOctober ninjette.org member Name: Andrei Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2008 Daytona 675 Posts: 212	Wowzers Took about 2 hours to install today. Just got back from a testdrive...bike feels completely different, must easier to flick it around. With my height, 5'10", stock bars made my hands bend at the elbow which I think is why some of the force when trying to countersteer went into the downward motion (I've noticed this with myself). Now, hands are stretched out, any movement flicks it. And my lower back is telling me that my posture has changed as well Install itself went fine. Had to drill out the left handlebar bolt after stripping the head, but no biggie. The rest went pretty simple.

November 3rd, 2011, 06:18 PM	#438
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	Man those Shinto guys don't seem to have a very good reputation. I guessing they're the company people always talk about but never mention the name?

November 5th, 2011, 04:08 PM	#440
gogoKawi ninjette.org sage Name: Dre Location: DMV Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300, 2008 ZX6, 2011 Ninja 1000 Posts: 622	kkim, thanks for the DIY. I just installed mine after about 2 hours of messing around to make sure everything was lined up right. But great instructions. The only issue I had was with the screw that holds the clutch lever. It snapped while unscrewing it. It was always a little wobbly, but I wasn't expecting it to break. Everything else was great. Thanks again for the great DIY!

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