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Old May 22nd, 2014, 06:01 PM   #1
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Made in America, $6800, 84 mpg.

Not my cup of tea, but could be a cool change-up from 2 wheels.

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 06:03 PM   #2
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Haha, it's like a covered Can-Am Spyder with better fuel economy. I may be able to dig that for some rainy days...
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i like how they say "composite body panels" instead of "Fiberglass shell"
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3 cyl, 900cc SOHC engine.

The engine will deliver 55 horsepower and have 55 ft.-lb. of torque.

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I think if they can pull this off and keep the price down, they really could revolutionize entry-level transportation in the USA.

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 06:21 PM   #9
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55 hp, 1200 lbs I think, with A/C =

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Not quite...

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Yeah, he showed these at CES. The three-wheel concept never seems to last, from the old BMW and Mezerschmidt models forward. There was a Bellevue,WA startup a few years ago that disappeared. I wish them the best, but I'm not pre-ordering one.

I'm also following Lit Motors and Arcimoto, the latter of which may already be dead; theIR website has not been updated for over a year.

The 4 wheel cage is just an inefficient design, but it's really hard to bring anything new to the established auto market.
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Haha, it's like a covered Can-Am Spyder with better fuel economy. I may be able to dig that for some rainy days...
At half the price of the basic Spyder...

But ok, it's still unpleasantly looking...

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one of the guys that went to james Bay with me got in on the kickstarter for this. when the cars come out he gets one!
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do they even bother crash testing it?
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do they even bother crash testing it?
If it is registered as a motorcycle it may not require a crash test. But required or not, they still could do such a test.

I just don't see how they can keep to that price point. If these sell well, I expect the price to go nuts in a hurry.
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Squezze my MV 800 Triple in there. 125 hp at 60ft of torque mmmm.
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they say that they are expecting a 5-star crash test rating
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MMMMmmm, yup. This could so be my rainy day alternative.
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their site says it's "engineered to a 5-star crash test safety rating" meaning that it has never, and will never, be tested.

This thing is a rolling death trap. I'd rather be on a motorcycle where I have a chance of being thrown than in this thing that will just confine me until I squish after being hit by a 5k lb SUV.
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3 wheeled cars have been done... just my opinion, but it didn't seem to work too well

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Hmmm, might be cool and different to tool around in.
There is a lot of potential for upgrading everything on it.
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Fact is it is absolutely hideous, they are deluded if they think the public will flock to that. It will fail.

THIS is what you want to do the 70mpg small car trick
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Fact is it is absolutely hideous, they are deluded if they think the public will flock to that. It will fail.

THIS is what you want to do the 70mpg small car trick
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...running-costs/
They have 18k people waiting in line to purchase one, dunno if it will be a failure but only time will tell, and for something less than 7k brand new is a pretty good bargain if you ask me even if it is an ugly duckling.
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similar sales figures to
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I'll stick to the Fiat. In fact for $6800 I'll buy something really cool used (with change).
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I see no reason it wouldn't be able to do decently in at least a head-on impact. There's plenty of space upfront to be the crumple zone.

Side impacts look like a different story.

I'd give one a test drive (or ride?) and consider it as something small for around town/fun back roads. Looks like it could stand to be lowered about 1" though.


@Kscreations08, that video has a delta configuration with terrible weighting and is just not stable through turns. The OP is a tadpole configuration. Tadpoles are much easier to design so that they're stable with minimal effort. Delta can be done, as shown by alex.s, but that car is brilliant beyond brilliant and the suspension/weight balance is meticulously designed for stability and is an engineering marvel.
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I see no reason it wouldn't be able to do decently in at least a head-on impact. There's plenty of space upfront to be the crumple zone.

Side impacts look like a different story.
Not quite sure I think it will fair well in these tests.

well, actually in the small overlap test, you might just shear off the front wheel and keep going until you hit something else.

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^^ they might have do do the overlap test so the corner obstacle hits the main body of the vehicle. I think just shearing off a wheel would be cheating.
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The Elio comes standard with a 3 year/36000 mile warranty!
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Looks like the Corbin Sparrow, which was a failure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers_Motors_NmG

I suspect this thing will fail for much the same reasons.
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Let's be real, the sparrow also looked like something out of a Dr Suess movie and was electric. As the Zero Motorcycle thread has blown up about, EV's have some barriers to break before being successful.

This Elio is gas powered, looks like a cross between a can-am and a ford focus, and could be either a hit or a miss. I think it will all come down to how it performs and handles. If it can get out of it's own way with power, handle like a sporty small car, and still offer 500-ish miles to a small tank off gas, it might be a hit. If I could make it a great handling fun vehicle, I'd be just as happy commuting in it as I would be railing some corners and goofing around town with it. it has potential. Unfortunately, they've not yet posted any info on the engine that I can find. :/
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I'd totally use this to travel long distance to my Mtb races. Better milage then the 250 with climate control for not much more $. I'll wait till they work out the bugs which there's sure to be plenty of in this day and age of get it out there and let the consumers test it for us.
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Dude. I would totally rock one of these. In fact, Starting in September, I have a 100mi/day commute for the next two years, and starting to get nervous about only having my bike in the winter. Hmmm. Solution?
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If the ELIO can actually be made and sold as advertised and the company was profitable and thrived it would be great. I'm skeptical that it will ever actually be produced. They are promising a lot for a very low price and we all know that something too good to be true probably isn't.
I like the idea but they would still face a lot od f challenges selling in large quantities in the US. Unfortunately it looks to me like another attempt to collect lots of investor funds up front and then go bankrupt.
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Unfortunately it looks to me like another attempt to collect lots of investor funds up front and then go bankrupt.
I would actually be pretty surprised if it's a scam. They have now purchased a factory, have iterated their prototype 4 times, and they have partnered with some pretty big names: Pepboys will be providing service for the vehicles, and Continental will be providing the 'Infotainment' system.

Don't get me wrong -- it's still possible that they will fail or that they are trying to sell investors a big golden bridge; but at this point, they've had to convince some pretty impressive companies to lend their name to the product, so that gives me some hope that this thing will happen.

We'll know soon, regardless, as they've announced a proposed hiring date for factory workers as Q4 of this year. If they don't end up hiring anyone, I guess we'll know.
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Cheesy video aside, this bad boy has some potential. Looks like it's FWD, comments on the video (super reliable, I know ) mention a 0.9L engine making 55hp, so it's not exactly a fire breather. But it looks great as a second small car for around town. I love how this thing looks.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this to actually make it to market. It would be a good candidate for a little enclosed vehicle if I ever wanted to go moto-only and needed a way to carry a bicycle/commute in the rain (or maybe even light winter duty) etc etc that has a manual tranny.

I bet it needs some coilovers/brakes/sticky front tires and a Ford Ecoboost 1.0L or Kawi ZX6R engine swap when it comes out.

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