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mike12 · July 6th, 2013, 08:36 AM

Well since FL offers test rides i may have to ride them before i make an ultimatum. The CBR's torque is appealing and i do like its style. A tuned CBR could ultimately over power any tuned 300 as well. we will have to see.

Jiggles · July 6th, 2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

It sounds to me like either bike would be good for you. I chose the 300 for it's aggressive looks, light weight, and sporty demeanor. Plus Kawi's reputation for making a fun small bike.

While you might be able to bridge the hp/weight ratio between the two bike you won't be able to make up for the Honda making twice the torque. As a commuter it would probably be the better bike, just too boring for me.

Torque and hp are essentially the same thing. They are multiplications of eachother. But, torque is a number that is almost meaningless without rpm, combine it with rpms and you get hp. Compare the hp curves of these two bikes and W/ the 300 w/ area p and I'll bet that the Honda makes more power everywhere but not by much.

The 300 makes up for half the torque with twice the rpms (or close to it

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mike12 · July 6th, 2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Torque and hp are essentially the same thing. They are multiplications of eachother. But, torque is a number that is almost meaningless without rpm, combine it with rpms and you get hp. Compare the hp curves of these two bikes and W/ the 300 w/ area p and I'll bet that the Honda makes more power everywhere but not by much.

The 300 makes up for half the torque with twice the rpms (or close to it

)

this is true lol

ninjamunky85 · July 6th, 2013, 10:40 AM

Yeah, but it takes time to get to those high rpm's. The Honda is going to be quicker off the line, that's my point. In the twisties it's not going to make a difference.

Jiggles · July 6th, 2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Yeah, but it takes time to get to those high rpm's. The Honda is going to be quicker off the line, that's my point. In the twisties it's not going to make a difference.

Actually that depends on gearing. If they were geared the same then that would be true but most likely they are not. Faster off the line? Not necessarily. They will both do wheelies with a little clutch work

KawiKid860 · July 6th, 2013, 03:32 PM

You're going to get "bored" of anything's power, that's why it doesn't make sense to buy a bike just based on it's straight line performance. Get a turbo ZX14 if you want to stay entertained for the longest.

snowbandit · July 22nd, 2013, 05:49 PM

Buy a 300, put a $k into it to increase the hp and torque, and get it tuned the way you like. You'll love it.
Less than half the insurance, still less money, it's a refined bike, and you'll have it ready for what ever kind of aggression you'd like to throw at it- because you customized to the way to want it ridden.

July 6th, 2013, 10:40 AM	#44
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	Yeah, but it takes time to get to those high rpm's. The Honda is going to be quicker off the line, that's my point. In the twisties it's not going to make a difference. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

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July 6th, 2013, 08:36 AM	#41
mike12 ninjette.org member Name: michael Location: chesapeake va Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 ninja 250R SE Posts: 97	Well since FL offers test rides i may have to ride them before i make an ultimatum. The CBR's torque is appealing and i do like its style. A tuned CBR could ultimately over power any tuned 300 as well. we will have to see.

July 6th, 2013, 03:32 PM	#46
KawiKid860 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Murphey Location: Eastern Washington Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Honda 919, 2004 Ninja 500R NAKED Posts: A lot.	You're going to get "bored" of anything's power, that's why it doesn't make sense to buy a bike just based on it's straight line performance. Get a turbo ZX14 if you want to stay entertained for the longest.

July 22nd, 2013, 05:49 PM	#47
snowbandit Friendly Graffiti Artist Name: Andrew Location: Idaho Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 300 SE w/ ABS Posts: 28	Buy a 300, put a $k into it to increase the hp and torque, and get it tuned the way you like. You'll love it. Less than half the insurance, still less money, it's a refined bike, and you'll have it ready for what ever kind of aggression you'd like to throw at it- because you customized to the way to want it ridden.