Kickstand issues?

Nemy · July 13th, 2009, 11:43 PM

Anyone else experience any problems with their kickstand/kickstand springs? Happened to me tonight when I was shifting up. Felt my toe get stuck on something then a second later the bike died on me. Apparently the kickstand spring came off and when it swung down it killed the engine... Good to know my kickstand switch works but it would've been better to have a spring that stays in place!

So when I was putting it back on I noticed how flimsy it is!!! The upper hook for the spring is BARELY connected and right at the edge of the holder! So when the stand is up, I can shift the spring around and remove it with my fingers and minimal force! Or is it just mine that is loose now that it has come off once? Either way it might warrant a trip to the dealership.

Here's a pic

Alex · July 14th, 2009, 12:29 PM

I'll take a peek at mine, but it does sound like there's an issue with yours at this point. It certainly shouldn't pop off that easily, as you found out it kills the engine immediately which can be mildly or seriously problematic depending where the bike is at the time.

Nemy · July 14th, 2009, 09:06 PM

Just an update - I rode all day today and it stayed on for low and high speeds... I'm just really conscious about tapping it with my foot...

but seriously.. noone else has had this issue? Can anyone just try tugging on their spring to see if it'll move/come off (when the stand is up)? If it does come off, it's not hard to get it back on... which is also a testament as to how easy mine can come off...

TrueFaith · July 15th, 2009, 06:32 AM

I don't see how it could be a problem if you're riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs like you're supposed to. Perhaps you just need to adjust your foot position a bit.

divingtigger · July 15th, 2009, 06:39 AM

What is the purpose of that safety switch? And is there a way to bypass it/is it recommended to bypass it? On my other bikes I would start it with it on it's stands to let it warm up a little while putting on my jacket/helmet/gloves, or do these bikes not need to be warmed up that much?

Really newb question from a guy who hasn't actually even riden his bike yet (still fixing it up)

TrueFaith · July 15th, 2009, 06:55 AM

Too many people crashing because they didn't remember to retract the stand when they started out. If you leave it down it will act as a pivot point in a left turn and can throw you off the bike. Obviously someone who "forgot" was hurt and sued a bike manufacturer and now they all just want to protect themselves from further lawsuits.

tjkamper · July 15th, 2009, 07:04 AM

I haven't had any problems.

Also I don't know why you would want to bypass the switch. It is only a safety thing and it has nothing to do with performance. I personally wouldn't want to forget about my stand and be able to ride off. There is never any need to have your stand down when the bike is in gear and the engine runs fine in nuetral with the stand down.

Why would you want to bypass the switch?

Nemy · July 15th, 2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFaith

I don't see how it could be a problem if you're riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs like you're supposed to. Perhaps you just need to adjust your foot position a bit.

The problem isn't riding position, like I said in the post it was when I was shifting. The woodcraft rearsets bring the shifter in closer to the bike and the stand spring is just a bit lower... it seems that another tap from the foot or even a pothole might dislodge it. That's what I'm trying to warn people about and see if anyone else has had a problem...

divingtigger · July 15th, 2009, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjkamper

I haven't had any problems.

Also I don't know why you would want to bypass the switch. It is only a safety thing and it has nothing to do with performance. I personally wouldn't want to forget about my stand and be able to ride off. There is never any need to have your stand down when the bike is in gear and the engine runs fine in nuetral with the stand down.

Why would you want to bypass the switch?

Oh ok, I didn't know that it was bypassed when in neutral. Haven't tried it. Bike would not start when I first brought it home.....thought that was the reason. Took it apart to repair it so I'm sure I'll notice something else eventually

postie1686 · July 15th, 2009, 11:48 AM

just looked at mine i would have to pull my spring off with a pliers. with were my feet sit i dont see how it could pull the spring off

Nemy · July 15th, 2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postie1686

just looked at mine i would have to pull my spring off with a pliers. with were my feet sit i dont see how it could pull the spring off

good to know. Thanks! I guess I'm heading to the stealership to see what they say....

July 13th, 2009, 11:43 PM	#1
Nemy ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Portland, OR Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 SE Ninja 250R Posts: 796	Kickstand issues? Anyone else experience any problems with their kickstand/kickstand springs? Happened to me tonight when I was shifting up. Felt my toe get stuck on something then a second later the bike died on me. Apparently the kickstand spring came off and when it swung down it killed the engine... Good to know my kickstand switch works but it would've been better to have a spring that stays in place! So when I was putting it back on I noticed how flimsy it is!!! The upper hook for the spring is BARELY connected and right at the edge of the holder! So when the stand is up, I can shift the spring around and remove it with my fingers and minimal force! Or is it just mine that is loose now that it has come off once? Either way it might warrant a trip to the dealership. Here's a pic

July 14th, 2009, 12:29 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I'll take a peek at mine, but it does sound like there's an issue with yours at this point. It certainly shouldn't pop off that easily, as you found out it kills the engine immediately which can be mildly or seriously problematic depending where the bike is at the time. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

July 15th, 2009, 07:04 AM	#7
tjkamper ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Travis Location: Warwick, RI Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I haven't had any problems. Also I don't know why you would want to bypass the switch. It is only a safety thing and it has nothing to do with performance. I personally wouldn't want to forget about my stand and be able to ride off. There is never any need to have your stand down when the bike is in gear and the engine runs fine in nuetral with the stand down. Why would you want to bypass the switch? __________________________________________________ Addicted to anything that has an engine and rolls.

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July 14th, 2009, 09:06 PM	#3
Nemy ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Portland, OR Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 SE Ninja 250R Posts: 796	Just an update - I rode all day today and it stayed on for low and high speeds... I'm just really conscious about tapping it with my foot... but seriously.. noone else has had this issue? Can anyone just try tugging on their spring to see if it'll move/come off (when the stand is up)? If it does come off, it's not hard to get it back on... which is also a testament as to how easy mine can come off...

July 15th, 2009, 06:32 AM	#4
TrueFaith ninjette.org sage Name: Wayne Location: Brookfield, MA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Honda CBR250R Posts: 585	I don't see how it could be a problem if you're riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs like you're supposed to. Perhaps you just need to adjust your foot position a bit.

July 15th, 2009, 06:39 AM	#5
divingtigger Pedal Power Name: Rob Location: Winterpeg (Winnipeg) Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja EX250R Posts: 401	What is the purpose of that safety switch? And is there a way to bypass it/is it recommended to bypass it? On my other bikes I would start it with it on it's stands to let it warm up a little while putting on my jacket/helmet/gloves, or do these bikes not need to be warmed up that much? Really newb question from a guy who hasn't actually even riden his bike yet (still fixing it up)

July 15th, 2009, 06:55 AM	#6
TrueFaith ninjette.org sage Name: Wayne Location: Brookfield, MA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Honda CBR250R Posts: 585	Too many people crashing because they didn't remember to retract the stand when they started out. If you leave it down it will act as a pivot point in a left turn and can throw you off the bike. Obviously someone who "forgot" was hurt and sued a bike manufacturer and now they all just want to protect themselves from further lawsuits.

July 15th, 2009, 11:48 AM	#10
postie1686 ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Cottage Grove Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): kawasaki ninja 250r Posts: 66	just looked at mine i would have to pull my spring off with a pliers. with were my feet sit i dont see how it could pull the spring off