need help really quick (rtv setting soon!!)

nickjpass · July 13th, 2014, 01:33 AM

There isn't enough clearance for me to get to two bolts on my cylinder head cover out of six with my torque wrench. The only thing that will fit is a little breaker bar I have. I don't want to guess the torque...but I may have to. Bad or good ?

nickjpass · July 13th, 2014, 01:51 AM

What if tighten down pretty well and later go back and tighten using a torque wrench that will fit ? No way I'd be able to do it soon. The rtv fully sets in 24 hours, so will it be had if I go and do it in say six ?

verboten1 · July 13th, 2014, 08:01 AM

Just don't over tighten. It's aluminum, I usually do it til it's tight, but not really yanking on it.

Ninjinsky · July 13th, 2014, 08:27 AM

Tighten one of the reachables with the torque wrench then undo it and redo it to the same position (exact angle of wrench handle) a couple of times with a normal socket to get a "feel memory" for the torque
Then quickly do the 2 to the same "feel" .
Usually with aluminium err on the less side

Motofool · July 13th, 2014, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

.........I don't want to guess the torque...but I may have to. Bad or good ?

What is the recommended torque and how much lever your tool has?

nickjpass · July 13th, 2014, 02:56 PM

I ended up trying to guess the torque...it was setting too quick.

87 in lbs

cuong-nutz · July 13th, 2014, 06:09 PM

Couldn't you just have pulled the cover off until you had the right tool? It's just rtv. You could just scrape and redo.

Rifleman · July 13th, 2014, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

Tighten one of the reachables with the torque wrench then undo it and redo it to the same position (exact angle of wrench handle) a couple of times with a normal socket to get a "feel memory" for the torque
Then quickly do the 2 to the same "feel" .
Usually with aluminium err on the less side

Yep, "calibrate" your arm... it can be done and done accurately

nickjpass · July 14th, 2014, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Couldn't you just have pulled the cover off until you had the right tool? It's just rtv. You could just scrape and redo.

That didn't cross my mind.

I couldn't find torque wrench small enough anyway.

adouglas · July 14th, 2014, 05:21 AM

VERY VERY VERY rough rule of thumb...

Pulling with one finger till it starts to get a bit uncomfortable (like, fingernail getting pale) = about 10 ft lbs
Two fingers, 20
Thee, 30

Rinse and repeat

Use for emergencies only.

The "calibrate your arm" described above is a great idea.

July 13th, 2014, 01:33 AM	#1
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	need help really quick (rtv setting soon!!) There isn't enough clearance for me to get to two bolts on my cylinder head cover out of six with my torque wrench. The only thing that will fit is a little breaker bar I have. I don't want to guess the torque...but I may have to. Bad or good ? __________________________________________________

July 13th, 2014, 01:51 AM	#2
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	What if tighten down pretty well and later go back and tighten using a torque wrench that will fit ? No way I'd be able to do it soon. The rtv fully sets in 24 hours, so will it be had if I go and do it in say six ? __________________________________________________

July 13th, 2014, 08:01 AM	#3
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July 13th, 2014, 08:27 AM	#4
Ninjinsky ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: UK Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, Yamaha RS200 (classic) Posts: A lot.	Tighten one of the reachables with the torque wrench then undo it and redo it to the same position (exact angle of wrench handle) a couple of times with a normal socket to get a "feel memory" for the torque Then quickly do the 2 to the same "feel" . Usually with aluminium err on the less side

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