Top speed 92 mph.. Sigh QQ

Joule · January 24th, 2012, 10:44 AM

Bought bike on 30th december and clocked at 1400 km.
I only removed snorkel and since it's fuel injected with o2 sensor, there was no need to do anything else.
So i tried to test it's full speed and in 6th gear it doesnt go beyond 145 kmph?
I even bend down for reducing air drag and my kerb weight is 60 kg XDDD

So i wonder what's wrong.. I expected it go beyond 170 kmph easily..
I even use premium 91 octAne fuel with friction busters. And i get my fuel from best and most renowed petrol pump.

Ugh.. This is irritating QQ

Anyone else facing such issue?

choneofakind · January 24th, 2012, 10:50 AM

Put the snorkel back in and try it. Many of us here have the US bike, so not much is readily known about the FI version.

Is gas measured on the RON system in India?

lgk · January 24th, 2012, 11:00 AM

change out the front sprocket

choneofakind · January 24th, 2012, 11:07 AM

Terminal velocity is a power thing. You're getting to the point where the power made by the bike is the same as the power of the wind you're going into on the surface of the vehicle. Changing the gearing without making any other modifications won't raise top speed. If you're really into top speed, get the bike on a dyno, and get the ECU reprogrammed (or use a Powercommander) so that you make as much power as possible. Changing gearing just moves the power band to a different speed, which doesn't do anything for top speed unless there's more power to be found there

lgk · January 24th, 2012, 11:13 AM

i thought he was close to hitting the redline

Joule · January 24th, 2012, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Put the snorkel back in and try it. Many of us here have the US bike, so not much is readily known about the FI version.

Is gas measured on the RON system in India?

I think i am gonna do that -..-
I don't really understand 'RON system' i googled it and found ron weasely

And what exactly you said.. I feel my bike lacks power..

Getting a dyno test is a pain.. I have to go 350 km away.
In india people prefer cars.. There are no bike shops here where i live.. Heck i couldn't even find rear tire of 150/70/17 size!! All asked me to go to 350 km away to delhi.
In my city, people have so many expensive cars but no expEnsive bikes.no one cares for bikes here QQ

Joule · January 24th, 2012, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgk

i thought he was close to hitting the redline

I reach that speed in 5th gear too and at 13k rpm.
6th gear.. I am stuck at 10-11k rpm -..-

And yes, i even have 30 psi in front tire and 35 in reAr -..-

akima · January 24th, 2012, 11:34 AM

My ninjette is fuel injected and I can get to 145 kmph with ~4000-5000 rpm left over. That was with the recommended 28psi in front and 32 in rear.

Next time I'm on the motorway I'll see how fast it will go and get back to you.

choneofakind · January 24th, 2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joule

I think i am gonna do that -..-
And what exactly you said.. I feel my bike lacks power..

Test it and see if it pulls harder with or without the snorkel.

About the RON, I only ask because in the US, we use a different system, so our 87 is like a RON 91. I was wondering if you were quoting a 91 RON number, or a 91 (RON+MON)/2

how octane level is measured

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

I'll see how fast it will go and get back to you.

Jiggles · January 24th, 2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joule

I reach that speed in 5th gear too and at 13k rpm.
6th gear.. I am stuck at 10-11k rpm -..-

And yes, i even have 30 psi in front tire and 35 in reAr -..-

if you bike produces the same power curve that our bikes do then you maximum horsepower is at 10k which explains why you cant go past that point in 6th. To go faster you would probably need a new exhaust system and get a power commander

akima · January 24th, 2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

if you bike produces the same power curve that our bikes do then you maximum horsepower is at 10k which explains why you cant go past that point in 6th. To go faster you would probably need a new exhaust system and get a power commander

Hmm... I never tried to get past about 10/11K in 60th. I'm super curious now. I've gotta give this a go on Sunday and see what the top speed is. I always expected it to be just about 100MPH

Jiggles · January 24th, 2012, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

Hmm... I never tried to get past about 10/11K in 60th. I'm super curious now. I've gotta give this a go on Sunday and see what the top speed is. I always expected it to be just about 100MPH

My top speed right now is 100mph, thats with a full exhaust and poorly tuned carbs

choneofakind · January 24th, 2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

10/11K in 60th.

How come my ninja didn't have that option when I bought it????

dubojr1 · January 24th, 2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

My top speed right now is 100mph, thats with a full exhaust and poorly tuned carbs

Is that indicated or actual?

akima · January 24th, 2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

How come my ninja didn't have that option when I bought it????

See, this is why you should read the manual!

Wellll... to get the extra gears you have to give the dash board a tug. The whole things folds back on a hinge and there are lots of flip-switches that you use to get the other gears.

There's also a wheelie button... the manual says only to use that button when you're late for work... it's dangerous to use it otherwise.

choneofakind · January 24th, 2012, 01:19 PM

Jiggles · January 24th, 2012, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Is that indicated or actual?

Indicated

I don't currently have a way to accurately measure my true speed while riding. However I do feel like my speedo is quite accurate based on the indicated speed and the speed of other cars on the freeway. i.e. I'll be passing cars in very light traffic on the freeway while going 70-75mph indicated. If it's off at all then it's only by a very small percentage. Now my pregen on the other hand, that things speedo is waaaayyyyyyy off. At least 10% or more

onetruevibe · January 24th, 2012, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

See, this is why you should read the manual!

Wellll... to get the extra gears you have to give the dash board a tug. The whole things folds back on a hinge and there are lots of flip-switches that you use to get the other gears.

There's also a wheelie button... the manual says only to use that button when you're late for work... it's dangerous to use it otherwise.

My toilet has the same set up.

Joule · January 24th, 2012, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onetruevibe

My toilet has the same set up.

Pics or it didn't haPpen!!

We want to see a racing toilet seat!!

choneofakind · January 24th, 2012, 11:17 PM

this?

Slono · January 24th, 2012, 11:43 PM

My bike only indicates 150km/h max. But I found out early on that its optimistic because when I'm travelling at 65 km/h on the streets I get people honking at me. So I'm pretty much getting the same results as the OP. I'm 180 lbs though, so probably heavier than the OP is...and that's in full tuck wearing a backpack full of things. If I wasn't wearing a backpack I might be able to gain a few more ticks on my speedo.

Joule · January 25th, 2012, 02:49 AM

156 kmph with snorkel on

cuz · January 25th, 2012, 04:17 AM

and i complain about my 115 hope you find a solution

SteveL · January 25th, 2012, 04:41 AM

Just less than 100mph real is about right it’s only 33 ps after all don’t expect miracles.

Steve

NDspd · January 25th, 2012, 05:11 AM

I've hit 102 indicated, but that was going down a large bridge. On a flat with no obstacles, I always top out at 90-95 depending on the air temperature and humidity. Funny enough it does change the speed, only a little though.

choneofakind · January 25th, 2012, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joule

156 kmph with snorkel on

So this means all you FI guys and gals shouldn't mess with your intake/exhaust unless you have a power commander or you get the ecu reprogrammed to work with higher flow intake and exhaust...

lgk · January 26th, 2012, 01:30 PM

is the factory ecu able to be flashed?

choneofakind · January 26th, 2012, 02:42 PM

Yeah there's a member here who said his was in the shop to have it reflashed. Forget what his name was though...

The guy from Denmark or somewhere with a green 08...

akima · January 26th, 2012, 02:43 PM

I'm going to see how fast mine goes on Sunday. Is it bad to go into the red area of the tach and stay there for, say, 5 mins?

Jiggles · January 26th, 2012, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

I'm going to see how fast mine goes on Sunday. Is it bad to go into the red area of the tach and stay there for, say, 5 mins?

I believe there is an issue with oil delivery at a certain sustained RPM but kawasaki placed the rev limiter below that point so you can't break it.

Rev away little squirrel

akima · January 26th, 2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I believe there is an issue with oil delivery at a certain sustained RPM but kawasaki placed the rev limiter below that point so you can't break it.

Rev away little squirrel

Yey! Ok.

I'm gonna be the world's fastest ~~indian~~ ninjette squirrel!

choneofakind · January 26th, 2012, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I believe there is an issue with oil delivery at a certain sustained RPM but kawasaki placed the rev limiter below that point so you can't break it.

That's an issue with pregens that were made before they lowered the rev limiter to 14,000 rpm, like mine which goes to 14,500, and there are older ones than mine that go to 15,000

you'll be fine akima. Just watch that temp light.

akima · January 27th, 2012, 01:54 PM

I just found a gps speedometer app on my phone that will record my max speed. Looking forward to my speed run on Sunday! Hope it goes to 100 indicated... then I can tell people "my bike does AT LEAST 100MPH... probably tops out at like 300" ^_^

hackeron · February 2nd, 2012, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

I just found a gps speedometer app on my phone that will record my max speed. Looking forward to my speed run on Sunday! Hope it goes to 100 indicated... then I can tell people "my bike does AT LEAST 100MPH... probably tops out at like 300" ^_^

So? - how did it go?

My FI 250R goes 107MPH (172km/hr) indicated - I tried changing the OEM exhaust to a BlueFlame Slip-On but that had no effect on my top speed. I weigh around 75kg (165 pounds, 11.8 stone).

When I ride 2 up with my girlfriend, total weight around 125kg (275 pounds, 19.7 stone), my maximum speed is around 100mph (160km/hr) indicated.

Not sure why you guys have such poor performance

EDIT: One thing that sucked about 2-up is economy went down from about 70mpg solo to 58.5mpg riding 2-up - check my fuelly.

NDspd · February 2nd, 2012, 09:56 AM

Damn man, I do wish I could get that performance. You're only 20 pounds lighter than me, although you have the FI, maybe that's the reason...I have no clue.

Can't wait to get a 600cc, but I'll always love my ninja

choneofakind · February 2nd, 2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackeron

When I ride 2 up with my girlfriend, total weight around 125kg (275 pounds, 19.7 stone), my maximum speed is around 100mph (160km/hr) indicated.

geez how long was that road??? Last time I had a passenger who wanted to go fast, it took forever to get to 85 and then we ran out of road. Sounded glorious though. It also might have helped if I downshifted

wait. 100 indicated is about 91. eh nevermind.

hackeron · February 2nd, 2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

geez how long was that road??? Last time I had a passenger who wanted to go fast, it took forever to get to 85 and then we ran out of road. Sounded glorious though. It also might have helped if I downshifted

wait. 100 indicated is about 91. eh nevermind.

It was a 60mile ride 2-up, going 85mph indicated for the most part and accelerating to 100mph to overtake maybe every few minutes. Was roughly an hour ride on the M11 - on the way back went 107mph indicated for most of the journey.

Not sure what the indicated is, but when I go to 70mph indicated, I go the same speed as cars on the road, when I go 60mph I go the same speed as lorries on the road, so if the speedo is off, it seems to be off by the exact same amount as everyone else's speedo on the road. I will test the top speed with GPS at some point though

NickNYC · February 2nd, 2012, 11:06 AM

Check. 0 when your standing still?

hackeron · February 2nd, 2012, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickNYC

Check. 0 when your standing still?

Instrument cluster standing still can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdFJTXGoBmo - stays firmly on 0

Pyro · February 2nd, 2012, 12:05 PM

Close to sea level taking the snorkel off is probably not neccesary. If you're high above sea level it might help though.

Any idea how high you are?

Also - your bike is still pretty low on kms, might loosen up a bit over time and get more speed out of it.

---

I've got no idea what my top is

Cruised pretty well at 140km/h indicated, although I needed a bit of a downhill to get to 160km/h.

I'll take it on the highway again sometime after I've done the 15000km service.

January 24th, 2012, 10:44 AM	#1
Joule ninjette.org member Name: Tej Location: Ludhiana, India Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: 102	Top speed 92 mph.. Sigh QQ Bought bike on 30th december and clocked at 1400 km. I only removed snorkel and since it's fuel injected with o2 sensor, there was no need to do anything else. So i tried to test it's full speed and in 6th gear it doesnt go beyond 145 kmph? I even bend down for reducing air drag and my kerb weight is 60 kg XDDD So i wonder what's wrong.. I expected it go beyond 170 kmph easily.. I even use premium 91 octAne fuel with friction busters. And i get my fuel from best and most renowed petrol pump. Ugh.. This is irritating QQ Anyone else facing such issue? __________________________________________________ dat road rash game

January 25th, 2012, 02:49 AM	#22
Joule ninjette.org member Name: Tej Location: Ludhiana, India Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: 102	156 kmph with snorkel on __________________________________________________ dat road rash game

January 25th, 2012, 04:17 AM	#23
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	and i complain about my 115 hope you find a solution __________________________________________________ THE GOOD LIFE

January 25th, 2012, 04:41 AM	#24
SteveL old git Name: Steve Location: Geneve Switzerland Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): BMW K1300S Posts: 479	Just less than 100mph real is about right it’s only 33 ps after all don’t expect miracles. Steve __________________________________________________ Some mistakes are too much fun to make only once.

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January 24th, 2012, 10:50 AM	#2
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Put the snorkel back in and try it. Many of us here have the US bike, so not much is readily known about the FI version. Is gas measured on the RON system in India?

January 24th, 2012, 11:00 AM	#3
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	change out the front sprocket

January 24th, 2012, 11:07 AM	#4
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Terminal velocity is a power thing. You're getting to the point where the power made by the bike is the same as the power of the wind you're going into on the surface of the vehicle. Changing the gearing without making any other modifications won't raise top speed. If you're really into top speed, get the bike on a dyno, and get the ECU reprogrammed (or use a Powercommander) so that you make as much power as possible. Changing gearing just moves the power band to a different speed, which doesn't do anything for top speed unless there's more power to be found there

January 24th, 2012, 11:13 AM	#5
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	i thought he was close to hitting the redline

January 24th, 2012, 11:34 AM	#8
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	My ninjette is fuel injected and I can get to 145 kmph with ~4000-5000 rpm left over. That was with the recommended 28psi in front and 32 in rear. Next time I'm on the motorway I'll see how fast it will go and get back to you.

January 24th, 2012, 01:19 PM	#16
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January 24th, 2012, 11:17 PM	#20
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	this?

January 24th, 2012, 11:43 PM	#21
Slono ninjette.org guru Name: Solon Location: Toronto, Ontario Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (sold), 2007 SV650s (deer wrecked), 2010 Suzuki SV650S Posts: 334	My bike only indicates 150km/h max. But I found out early on that its optimistic because when I'm travelling at 65 km/h on the streets I get people honking at me. So I'm pretty much getting the same results as the OP. I'm 180 lbs though, so probably heavier than the OP is...and that's in full tuck wearing a backpack full of things. If I wasn't wearing a backpack I might be able to gain a few more ticks on my speedo.

January 25th, 2012, 05:11 AM	#25
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	I've hit 102 indicated, but that was going down a large bridge. On a flat with no obstacles, I always top out at 90-95 depending on the air temperature and humidity. Funny enough it does change the speed, only a little though.

January 26th, 2012, 01:30 PM	#27
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	is the factory ecu able to be flashed?

January 26th, 2012, 02:42 PM	#28
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Yeah there's a member here who said his was in the shop to have it reflashed. Forget what his name was though... The guy from Denmark or somewhere with a green 08...

January 26th, 2012, 02:43 PM	#29
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	I'm going to see how fast mine goes on Sunday. Is it bad to go into the red area of the tach and stay there for, say, 5 mins?

January 27th, 2012, 01:54 PM	#33
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	I just found a gps speedometer app on my phone that will record my max speed. Looking forward to my speed run on Sunday! Hope it goes to 100 indicated... then I can tell people "my bike does AT LEAST 100MPH... probably tops out at like 300" ^_^

February 2nd, 2012, 09:56 AM	#35
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	Damn man, I do wish I could get that performance. You're only 20 pounds lighter than me, although you have the FI, maybe that's the reason...I have no clue. Can't wait to get a 600cc, but I'll always love my ninja

February 2nd, 2012, 11:06 AM	#38
NickNYC ninjette.org guru Name: Nick Location: Brooklyn Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): :( Posts: 275	Check. 0 when your standing still?

February 2nd, 2012, 12:05 PM	#40
Pyro ninjette.org member Name: Werner Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX-250K Posts: 48	Close to sea level taking the snorkel off is probably not neccesary. If you're high above sea level it might help though. Any idea how high you are? Also - your bike is still pretty low on kms, might loosen up a bit over time and get more speed out of it. --- I've got no idea what my top is Cruised pretty well at 140km/h indicated, although I needed a bit of a downhill to get to 160km/h. I'll take it on the highway again sometime after I've done the 15000km service.