AreaP Exhaust - Page 3

kbryant · April 5th, 2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Oorb

Oops

. So anyone know which end cap we get with our little 250? Or do we have a choice of flat end caps?!

Picture of the production Flat Conical End Cap. We CNC this from 6061 billet aluminum material.

M-Oorb · April 5th, 2009, 06:45 PM

Thanks a lot kerry for clearing this up. So if I'm not mistaken if you look at the pictures from the beg. of the thread then the green zx-10 has to current flat end cap whereas the black zx-10 uses a 2 piece that they no longer make(if im mistaken please correct me.) I personally like the 2 piece discontinued one better(isnt that that way it always works

) I'm sure there was some reason with going with this design but IMO I like the other one better. What is everyone elses belief...maybe we can convince him to change back

I wonder if there's a way to convince kerry to make a one off of the old ones...hmmm

kbryant · April 5th, 2009, 07:33 PM

My pleasure. No, we won't be going back to that original two piece design on our sportbike line. It was too heavy and much more complex to build/machine. We still utilize the design on some of our ATV/Offroad systems, where the two piece design houses a removable spark arrestor. The one piece is superior in all other ways, but if you "really" want one of the originals, I can probably come up with one for you.

Lurkable · April 23rd, 2009, 12:41 AM

I agree with Matt about the two piece end cap looking better (shown on black zx10). If I knew it was possible to get an 18" quiet core with that old style end cap I would order one...tomorrow.

Otherwise I would prefer the bent spout.

I wonder are there other significant differences between the two flat end caps besides weight and complexity?

kbryant · April 23rd, 2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurkable

I agree with Matt about the two piece end cap looking better (shown on black zx10). If I knew it was possible to get an 18" quiet core with that old style end cap I would order one...tomorrow.

Otherwise I would prefer the bent spout.

I wonder are there other significant differences between the two flat end caps besides weight and complexity?

I believe we have two or three sets left of the old style 2-piece style. We did actually just make a system for a customer with that style (along with a very short 9" carbon fiber muffler). But as indicated, after they are gone, that is all she wrote.

And no, there are no differences other than stated of weight and complexity.

thebulbousone · April 24th, 2009, 11:53 AM

finally took the plunge!!!! here's what i got in a box today and all i have to say is....i'm not usually speechless or short on words but Kerry hooked me up! 9" Area-P carbon fiber with the 2-piece conical end.... i'm still drooling... thanks TONS Kerry! (btw... check out the flush mount rear turn signals...)

Buffalony · April 24th, 2009, 09:50 PM

9" like whoa.
That sucker must be loud eh.

kkim · April 24th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebulbousone

finally took the plunge!!!! here's what i got in a box today and all i have to say is....i'm not usually speechless or short on words but Kerry hooked me up! 9" Area-P carbon fiber with the 2-piece conical end.... i'm still drooling... thanks TONS Kerry!

hey mason... looks great, but can you make it so we can see larger versions of the pics? they aren't clickable.

Lurkable · April 24th, 2009, 10:30 PM

Heh, and while you're at it post a video or sound clip.

thebulbousone · April 25th, 2009, 01:20 PM

will do.... on my way to take off the klean air system!!!

thebulbousone · April 25th, 2009, 06:04 PM

new pics up ^^^^^^^.... and its loud but not bad at all... video to follow..

Rocketman · April 26th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebulbousone

new pics up ^^^^^^^.... and its loud but not bad at all... video to follow..

Looks good..looking forward to a video.

tanman · April 27th, 2009, 12:03 PM

I'd like to sell my brand new Area P exhaust because i find it too loud, or i would like to trade the twelve inch can with someone who has an eighteen inch quiet-core exhaust. Thanks

Lurkable · April 29th, 2009, 09:48 PM

Kerry I must thank you... was a pleasure doing business with you.

It looks beautiful and sounds unbelievably sexy!

M-Oorb · April 30th, 2009, 08:37 AM

Andrew...lovin the 2 piece flat tip! I myself finally gave in a purchased a 15in cf exhaust with the 2in core and the last 2 piece flat tip that they had. I cant wait to get home from school in 2 weeks to put it on

.

thebulbousone · April 30th, 2009, 04:39 PM

2 piece flat tips rule!!!!!

M-Oorb · April 30th, 2009, 05:22 PM

That gives me an idea for a new thread...

Ohh Snap · June 9th, 2009, 10:35 AM

the only place to purchase it is through their website?

kkim · June 9th, 2009, 11:38 AM

yes.

Tubesock · June 9th, 2009, 05:01 PM

Wow I'm really glad someone posted something on this thread because the end cap was the only thing stopping me from getting an Area P exhaust and now I know it comes with a different end cap I'll be all over it!

miks · June 9th, 2009, 08:58 PM

Can't you buy an exhaust from "Race bike rentals" (sp?)

NJD022588 · June 10th, 2009, 07:49 AM

Yep. Only the standard 12" can and in carbon fiber, I believe.

RaceBikeRentals · June 10th, 2009, 01:03 PM

I'll check with Kerry at Area-P and see if I can add the long can and the flat cap. Shouldn't be a problem.

Ohh Snap · June 12th, 2009, 01:34 PM

i wish they made slipons

kkim · June 12th, 2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohh Snap

i wish they made slipons

good lord, why??

kbryant · June 12th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohh Snap

i wish they made slipons

No plans to ever offer one. When we were doing our R&D on the full system, we did prototype a Slip-On and tested it extensively. It made slightly less than 1 hp, with a Dynojet Kit. It simply made no sense at all to manufacture it.

Ohh Snap · June 12th, 2009, 02:03 PM

I understand that. Right now money is tight and i want something nice fairly cheap and quick, the full system i believe is about $500?

That was the only reason, i want some sound to begin with, but will get FULL exhaust over the summer.

kkim · June 12th, 2009, 02:05 PM

modify your stock can or find a used slip on.

Ohh Snap · June 12th, 2009, 02:07 PM

Im trying to find a used slip on, no luck so far, at least on Craigslist.

I dont want the stock exhaust there

EDIT: What happens if i take my stock exhaust out, will it run like ****?

kkim · June 12th, 2009, 02:13 PM

how's this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-...Q5fAccessories

personally, I'd just wait till I had enough money to buy an AP system. hey wait... I did!

Ohh Snap · June 12th, 2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

how's this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-...Q5fAccessories

personally, I'd just wait till I had enough money to buy an AP system. hey wait... I did!

Thanks for that K.

I've been reading and researching and looked all over ebay, i found a couple deals but really add $200 more and i can get an AreaP Full.

So i guess its a matter of what comes first. and if i have cash in my hand, which when i do is usually bad, because they run away from me

kkim · June 12th, 2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohh Snap

So i guess its a matter of what comes first. and if i have cash in my hand, which when i do is usually bad, because they run away from me

Learn to DIY to fix that hole in your pocket.

You're not the first or last that will ever have leaky pockets, but it's entirely within your power to repair it.

Ohh Snap · June 12th, 2009, 02:36 PM

Well i will install it myself

wayanlam · June 25th, 2009, 11:59 PM

Kerry, could we get a Db reading for a 15" quiet core by chance?

i just listened to the 18" vs stock exhaust that Kim posted http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22790 and i really like the sound. however i prefer the looks of the 15" flat end, specially the old 2 piece ends are all gone

damn u M-Oorb! rofl...

thanks guys for this thread, and kkm for linking me here, since now im definitely set on getting an AP.

Hokie11 · June 26th, 2009, 04:34 AM

i am sold now with teh flat end piece and 15" qc cf. now just funds...

Snake · June 26th, 2009, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohh Snap

Well i will install it myself

Let us know how hard of a process it is. I want to install mine myself to save money.

kbryant · June 26th, 2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayanlam

Kerry, could we get a Db reading for a 15" quiet core by chance?

No sound readings available on the special order configurations. But I would calculate it to be about 2 dbA or so louder than the 18" long quiet core muffler with turn down exit tip.

RaceBikeRentals · June 29th, 2009, 11:02 AM

FYI, I have added the "Quiet" long core Area P exhausts, as well as the flat tip option to the RaceBikeRentals store

Purspeed · June 29th, 2009, 06:29 PM

The quality of Area-P's products and the raw amount of hours that go into create the 'perfect' system is awe-inspiring.

If you can find me a company that has the expertise, R&D, and true care about squeezing every bit of horsepower of the the Ninja 250r, I will be impressed.

My Area-P exhaust is a work of art in its execution and the pinnacle of design. Each section of tubing has been bent and mated to larger and smaller diameter tubing to achieve the perfect "pulse" for exiting exhaust gasses.

This means creating a system so that exhaust gas velocities are 'right on' to maximize horsepower...harmonics play a big role.

You cannot simply get a larger diameter tubing, bend it to fit, add brackets and call it a day. I think that Area-P's technology gets lost in the arguments because many riders judge a system by appearance and published data (which may have credibilty issues if coming from companies other than Area-P).

Bottom line, Area-P's exhaust will make your bike happy.

April 5th, 2009, 06:45 PM	#82
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	Thanks a lot kerry for clearing this up. So if I'm not mistaken if you look at the pictures from the beg. of the thread then the green zx-10 has to current flat end cap whereas the black zx-10 uses a 2 piece that they no longer make(if im mistaken please correct me.) I personally like the 2 piece discontinued one better(isnt that that way it always works) I'm sure there was some reason with going with this design but IMO I like the other one better. What is everyone elses belief...maybe we can convince him to change back I wonder if there's a way to convince kerry to make a one off of the old ones...hmmm

April 24th, 2009, 09:50 PM	#87
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	9" like whoa. That sucker must be loud eh. __________________________________________________

April 27th, 2009, 12:03 PM	#93
tanman ninjette.org newbie Name: Tanner Location: New Jersey Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250r Posts: 1	Area P 12" carbon fiber for the 08-09 Ninja 250r for sale. I'd like to sell my brand new Area P exhaust because i find it too loud, or i would like to trade the twelve inch can with someone who has an eighteen inch quiet-core exhaust. Thanks

June 9th, 2009, 05:01 PM	#100
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	Wow I'm really glad someone posted something on this thread because the end cap was the only thing stopping me from getting an Area P exhaust and now I know it comes with a different end cap I'll be all over it! __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

June 9th, 2009, 08:58 PM	#101
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	Can't you buy an exhaust from "Race bike rentals" (sp?) __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

April 5th, 2009, 07:33 PM	#83
kbryant Area P Name: Kerry Location: SoCal & South Florida Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Too many to list Posts: 439	My pleasure. No, we won't be going back to that original two piece design on our sportbike line. It was too heavy and much more complex to build/machine. We still utilize the design on some of our ATV/Offroad systems, where the two piece design houses a removable spark arrestor. The one piece is superior in all other ways, but if you "really" want one of the originals, I can probably come up with one for you.

April 23rd, 2009, 12:41 AM	#84
Lurkable 250Arrrgh! Name: Andrew Location: San Francisco Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250R, 2001 996 Posts: 143	I agree with Matt about the two piece end cap looking better (shown on black zx10). If I knew it was possible to get an 18" quiet core with that old style end cap I would order one...tomorrow. Otherwise I would prefer the bent spout. I wonder are there other significant differences between the two flat end caps besides weight and complexity?

April 24th, 2009, 10:30 PM	#89
Lurkable 250Arrrgh! Name: Andrew Location: San Francisco Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250R, 2001 996 Posts: 143	Heh, and while you're at it post a video or sound clip.

April 25th, 2009, 01:20 PM	#90
thebulbousone ninjette.org member Name: mason Location: columbus, ohio Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 42	will do.... on my way to take off the klean air system!!!

April 25th, 2009, 06:04 PM	#91
thebulbousone ninjette.org member Name: mason Location: columbus, ohio Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 42	new pics up ^^^^^^^.... and its loud but not bad at all... video to follow..

April 29th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#94
Lurkable 250Arrrgh! Name: Andrew Location: San Francisco Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250R, 2001 996 Posts: 143	Kerry I must thank you... was a pleasure doing business with you. It looks beautiful and sounds unbelievably sexy!

April 30th, 2009, 08:37 AM	#95
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	Andrew...lovin the 2 piece flat tip! I myself finally gave in a purchased a 15in cf exhaust with the 2in core and the last 2 piece flat tip that they had. I cant wait to get home from school in 2 weeks to put it on .

April 30th, 2009, 04:39 PM	#96
thebulbousone ninjette.org member Name: mason Location: columbus, ohio Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 42	2 piece flat tips rule!!!!!

April 30th, 2009, 05:22 PM	#97
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	That gives me an idea for a new thread...

June 9th, 2009, 10:35 AM	#98
Ohh Snap 420 President Name: John Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja grass color Posts: 96	the only place to purchase it is through their website?

June 9th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#99
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	yes.

June 10th, 2009, 07:49 AM	#102
NJD022588 ============ Name: Nick Location: Occoquan, VA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 518	Yep. Only the standard 12" can and in carbon fiber, I believe.

June 10th, 2009, 01:03 PM	#103
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	I'll check with Kerry at Area-P and see if I can add the long can and the flat cap. Shouldn't be a problem. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

June 12th, 2009, 01:34 PM	#104
Ohh Snap 420 President Name: John Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja grass color Posts: 96	i wish they made slipons

June 12th, 2009, 02:03 PM	#107
Ohh Snap 420 President Name: John Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja grass color Posts: 96	I understand that. Right now money is tight and i want something nice fairly cheap and quick, the full system i believe is about $500? That was the only reason, i want some sound to begin with, but will get FULL exhaust over the summer.

June 12th, 2009, 02:05 PM	#108
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	modify your stock can or find a used slip on.

June 12th, 2009, 02:07 PM	#109
Ohh Snap 420 President Name: John Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja grass color Posts: 96	Im trying to find a used slip on, no luck so far, at least on Craigslist. I dont want the stock exhaust there EDIT: What happens if i take my stock exhaust out, will it run like ****?

June 12th, 2009, 02:13 PM	#110
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	how's this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-...Q5fAccessories personally, I'd just wait till I had enough money to buy an AP system. hey wait... I did!

June 12th, 2009, 02:36 PM	#113
Ohh Snap 420 President Name: John Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja grass color Posts: 96	Well i will install it myself

June 25th, 2009, 11:59 PM	#114
wayanlam ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Wayan Location: Bali - Indonesia Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Z250 Posts: A lot.	Kerry, could we get a Db reading for a 15" quiet core by chance? i just listened to the 18" vs stock exhaust that Kim posted http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22790 and i really like the sound. however i prefer the looks of the 15" flat end, specially the old 2 piece ends are all gone damn u M-Oorb! rofl... thanks guys for this thread, and kkm for linking me here, since now im definitely set on getting an AP.

June 26th, 2009, 04:34 AM	#115
Hokie11 ninjette.org member Name: Vinh Location: Maryland Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Black 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 153	i am sold now with teh flat end piece and 15" qc cf. now just funds... __________________________________________________ Black 09 Ninja 250R\|Shogun Crash Kit\|Woodcraft Full Rearsets\|Proton Flush LEDs\|De-Snorkeled\|Shimmed\|K&N\|Red Rim Tape\|ProGrips\|Puig\|10K HIDs\|15T Front

June 29th, 2009, 11:02 AM	#118
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	FYI, I have added the "Quiet" long core Area P exhausts, as well as the flat tip option to the RaceBikeRentals store __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

June 29th, 2009, 06:29 PM	#119
Purspeed ninjette.org guru Name: Purspeed Location: Los Angeles, CA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	The quality of Area-P's products and the raw amount of hours that go into create the 'perfect' system is awe-inspiring. If you can find me a company that has the expertise, R&D, and true care about squeezing every bit of horsepower of the the Ninja 250r, I will be impressed. My Area-P exhaust is a work of art in its execution and the pinnacle of design. Each section of tubing has been bent and mated to larger and smaller diameter tubing to achieve the perfect "pulse" for exiting exhaust gasses. This means creating a system so that exhaust gas velocities are 'right on' to maximize horsepower...harmonics play a big role. You cannot simply get a larger diameter tubing, bend it to fit, add brackets and call it a day. I think that Area-P's technology gets lost in the arguments because many riders judge a system by appearance and published data (which may have credibilty issues if coming from companies other than Area-P). Bottom line, Area-P's exhaust will make your bike happy. __________________________________________________ "This is my Ninja. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." ~ Purspeed (ca. Nov, 2008)

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