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View Poll Results: Which foot do you put down during a stop (red light)?
Always my left foot 21 21.21%
Always my right foot 6 6.06%
Depends on the situation, but usually left 51 51.52%
Depends on the situation, but usually right 11 11.11%
I put both feet down! 14 14.14%
I can trackstand. Both feet on pegs while trackstanding 3 3.03%
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 07:53 PM   #41
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I always put the right one down for pretty much what moto has said, and i also like to let my hand take a break from the clutch lever when possible.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 07:55 PM   #42
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Depends on the stop reason and time. If I have some reason to stand on the rear brake (e.g. stop on an incline) then I put the left down, if I'm 'covered' and in neutral I put the right down so I can shift into first more quickly. If I'm stopped for more than 5 or so seconds both feet go down usually (and if on an incline I use the front brake)
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 08:08 PM   #43
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........What is your escape route in that situation?
Point the bike in the direction of the closest-to-you crossing traffic (~45 degrees to the right or left (one-way right to left crossing traffic), so you can bank and try merging into that traffic.

That is a difficult but useful exercise: starting turning sharp from a total stop.
This is difficult because the centrifugal effect of the acceleration tends to throw you off out of the turn (in essence, that is equivalent to counter-steering) while you need leaning toward the center of the turn.

Flashing the brake light always help catch the attention of the approaching rider; however, red-runners crossing the intersection that you cannot see (big truck blocking your view) are your major actual danger.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 09:19 PM   #44
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:04 PM   #45
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That is a difficult but useful exercise: starting turning sharp from a total stop.
This is difficult because the centrifugal effect of the acceleration tends to throw you off out of the turn (in essence, that is equivalent to counter-steering) while you need leaning toward the center of the turn.
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The only time I really put my right foot down on a motorbike is when I'm stopped at a light or at any strip mall exit and have to make a sharp right turn immediately from a stop. This way, I can lean the bike a bit even before I have to accelerate out to make that sharp 90 degree turn. Makes the turn so much easier and so much tighter (at least for me).
This is EXACTLY what I was trying to say!!! You just explained it so much better If I need to make a right turn from a complete stop (out of a shopping center parking lot) it really helps when I'm already leaning the bike to the right (with my right foot on the ground) and with the handlebars turned to the right. This way when I accelerate, the bike will naturally want to stand upright. But since I'm "one step ahead of the bike" by leaning it over before I accelerate, it stabilizes itself and I just pull hard into the tight right turn without going wide. Hope that makes sense.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 11:54 PM   #46
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^ makes perfect sense.

I remember seeing this video some time ago and getting some good visual tips from it:

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Old April 23rd, 2014, 02:41 AM   #47
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I'm going to try that! That's one thing I'm kinda BAD at. An over wide turned out into a lane from a parking lot or side street.
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 04:00 AM   #48
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 07:20 AM   #49
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I do the same thing, but I like to do with the front brake lever. I hit it like I'm rapid-firing a paintball gun
Samesies.

Left first, then both down once I'm stopped, then right while I put it in neutral to pick my nose and adjust stuff, both then lean to one side or the other while contemplating why the red light is so long, then the quick shuffle into first and feet up. I'm sure it's quite a show for those around Me.
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 07:30 AM   #50
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I usually put my left foot down (not always). I like to flash the brake light with my right foot when there's a car coming to a stop behind me. I want to make sure he sees me.
Your brake light doesn't work with both brakes?
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 07:39 AM   #51
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Your brake light doesn't work with both brakes?
I would be it does, but I sometimes use my foot to flash the brake lights when my hand needs a rest. I feel where he is coming from.
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 11:42 AM   #52
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Who are the 2 trackstanders then?! Fess up!
U guys that trackstand, do u do it seated or standing on pegs?

On my mountain and road bikes, I can only do it standing (if it has to be longer than 30 seconds) . However, for my track bike (fixed gear transmission) I can do it seated and stay in that position for a few minutes.

The secret is to turn the front wheel up towards the crown of the road (usually left for us in the US).

I'll try it soon with the ninjette since the fairings are currently off
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 12:17 PM   #54
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I'm a munchkin, so if it's a short stop, I'll track stand. If it's a prolonged stop, most of the time it's a butt scoot to the left (right on the brake), and left foot down. The exception being when the surface is dipped on the left, then I'll scoot to the right.
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Hmm, must practice this trackstand stuff.....
The 300 is so well balanced, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort. I practiced it on the patio until I got the hang of it. It makes brief stops so much easier for us shorties.
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My goal is to trackstand for a full minute. But I'll prob have to do it standing on the pegs....defeats the purpose. More work =(
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I'm going to try that! That's one thing I'm kinda BAD at. An over wide turned out into a lane from a parking lot or side street.
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I think i lost some confidence with being off the bike for so long. Some parking lot practise is probably a very good idea.
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I always use one foot or toe now. Generally if its flat ground I use my right foot down. Up hills or down hills I put my left down so I can be on the brake. The 848 is a bit taller so I have to pick a side before I stop. I actually can't get both feet down and touching at all.
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I think i lost some confidence with being off the bike for so long. Some parking lot practise is probably a very good idea.
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Right foot down always for me. I like to use both brakes when coming to a stop(MSF class) and hold on to the front brake whenever I'm at the red light. That way I can shift to neutral pending traffic wait time or I can stay in 1st if I need to quickly move.
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quick question, if you're one of the people putting your right foot down are you goofy footed on a snowboard/skateboard? if you put the left down are you regular?
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I'm regular (snowboarding) and put left foot down on motorbike 95% of the time. Yet on a bicycle (road and mountain), I put right foot down 95% of the time. But but but but on my track bike (fixed gear), I put my left foot down.

Another question would be, if you ride both motorbikes and a bicycles, are your front brakes both controlled with the right lever? Or do you have the left lever as your front brake on a bicycle (universally accepted in the States).
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^^^ amateur flatland bmx. We always tore the brakes off. If you need to stop, stuff your shoe in the tire. I wouldn't suggest trying that on the ninja though.




Also... Started trying that Captain Crash lean over to turn right

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Practice makes perfect. Do it wrong and its like being on a bucking bronco. Almost had a 2 mile an hour high side in a parking lot yesterday lol





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Practice makes perfect. Do it wrong and its like being on a bucking bronco. Almost had a 2 mile an hour high side in a parking lot yesterday lol
How the hell did you do that?! The only way I can imagine that happening is if you engaged the clutch a very low revs causing the engine to sputter and almost stall. Because you'd be leaned over when this happened, to save it, you would have to very quickly disengage clutch bring revs up high, re-engage clutch and surge forward (while at an angle) throwing the bike around a bit. That what happened? I had something similar happen once.
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How the hell did you do that?! The only way I can imagine that happening is if you engaged the clutch a very low revs causing the engine to sputter and almost stall. Because you'd be leaned over when this happened, to save it, you would have to very quickly disengage clutch bring revs up high, re-engage clutch and surge forward (while at an angle) throwing the bike around a bit. That what happened? I had something similar happen once.
Thats just about right. Play by play. Keep in mind that when you pull that clutch in, the bike drops further in. Momentary "ohshitgottasaveit", little bit too much throttle and let that clutch lever out too fast and the bike SHOOTS vertical it came up so fast it threw my right foot off the peg. buuutttt... I didn't drop it and I didn't fall off Who on here keeps quoting the Bruce Lee "Be like water" thing? lol smooooth
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Thats just about right. Play by play. Keep in mind that when you pull that clutch in, the bike drops further in. Momentary "ohshitgottasaveit", little bit too much throttle and let that clutch lever out too fast and the bike SHOOTS vertical it came up so fast it threw my right foot off the peg. buuutttt... I didn't drop it and I didn't fall off Who on here keeps quoting the Bruce Lee "Be like water" thing? lol smooooth
Awesome that you saved it! Never give up!

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Not sure who said it in here. Probably the same person as the "be like water" person.
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I'm a right footer, most of the time.

Like Motofool, I like to have control of the transmission, my right hand stays on the brake lever to control rolling and flashing the brake light. I come to a complete stop, drop the right foot down, and leave my left by the shifter, ready to shift to neutral. I'm ready roll on and take off if necessary until the cars behind me have stopped. Once the cars behind me have safely come to a stop, I switch to neutral and double-foot it, hands on or off the bars, depending on the slope of the road I'm stopped on. A lot of times, I like to bounce from left to right to keep myself occupied... adhd.

unless it's cold out, and then my hands always stay on the bars because of my heated grips.
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Thats just about right. Play by play. Keep in mind that when you pull that clutch in, the bike drops further in. Momentary "ohshitgottasaveit", little bit too much throttle and let that clutch lever out too fast and the bike SHOOTS vertical it came up so fast it threw my right foot off the peg. buuutttt... I didn't drop it and I didn't fall off Who on here keeps quoting the Bruce Lee "Be like water" thing? lol smooooth
Kevin,

Next time, try using only throttle and rear brake, leaving the clutch and front brake alone.

Throttle opening can be kept more or less constant while you modulate the rear brake: more brake makes the bike fall into the turn, less brake stands the bike up and out of the turn.

Rolling on a straight line, you can move at almost 0 mph using the same technique.

P.S.- Note what foot Capt Crash puts down.

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From my horse experience I have learned to always vary this and practice on both sides, whether you like it or not.
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"are you a lefty or a righty" or something?

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Old May 12th, 2014, 01:00 PM   #78
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MSF taught me to use the left so that I could keep my right foot on the rear brake as long as possible for emergency stops. In the real world, this has translated to me doing it most of the time unless I have reason to to one or the other.
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Old May 12th, 2014, 01:41 PM   #79
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I noticed another rider yesterday. He was in front of me with a naked 650 (Gladius). When approaching the red light, he put his left foot down when stopped.

Since this is a long light, he shifted into neutral when he saw me fully stopped behind him. Then he put both feet down.

When the light turned green, he shifted into 1st and put his left foot back down while putting his right back on the peg. Mind you we are on a flat road. Then rolled forward.

So much shuffling! I wonder why he didn't just take off with his right foot on the ground when the light turned green.
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Old May 12th, 2014, 01:53 PM   #80
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^ I do pretty much that exact same shuffle! It doesn't feel tiresome to me.
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