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Old February 17th, 2015, 10:08 AM   #1
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My clothes fell off! Pregen cafe build

It started. I never liked the pregen looks, sorry fellow Ninjetters!

I started by collecting parts. Got a muzzy header,K&N, single gauge, headlight, 1992 zx600 front and rear end and wheels, zx6rr radial brake master,2009 gsxr shock, making a custom seat.

Most of the mods planned are purely for aesthetic reasons, some will make exactly zero sense to some.

I already fitted the front end from the zx600 with the All Balls swap kit.
I wanted the dual disks and taller wider front and possible wider rear tire. Pics on that coming soon.
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Old February 17th, 2015, 10:14 AM   #2
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That being said, Are you selling your fairing???


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Old February 17th, 2015, 04:47 PM   #4
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I'm always a huge fan of making your bike the way you want it!



That being said, Are you selling your fairing???


Lol we need a nice red one
anyone that wants something can pm only please!
There will be a fs thread, just dont want to turn this one into that.
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what kind of seat are you thinking? Flat, or a hump?
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Old February 17th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #6
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what kind of seat are you thinking? Flat, or a hump?
I need to do 2 up so its going to be flat but with a poofy leather hump.
My 9 year old likes a ride in the morning to the bus stop, about an 1/8 of a mile straight shot down the street. So just a safe perch for her.

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sweet, cant wait to see how the wheel swap looks, any ideas on color
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sweet, cant wait to see how the wheel swap looks, any ideas on color
I actually got the triple fork and wheel on just did not take pics because i had to rush and forgot. In about week i will chop the seat frame and try to fit the swinger and rear wheel.
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Some pics. Just messing with the clip ons.And the front end is on. Tomorrow I should have the aluminium swinger fitted, the frame cut and the gauge mounted. new tire shown is a diablo scooter 140 70 16 going on the 3 inch wide zx rim.
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updated pics

I still gotta get the sawzzall out, but here are some updates rear tire is a 140 70 16 going to fit that on a the zx600 3 inch wide rim so should not pinch badly:
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Looking sweet cant wait to see more. I keep looking for a 2-1, but no luck yet. Glad to see they are being found.
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Looking sweet cant wait to see more. I keep looking for a 2-1, but no luck yet. Glad to see they are being found.
I posted a "want to buy" here at ninjette and a member hooked me up. Very nice piece.

Hope to get to narrow swinger pivot this weekend and line up rear. A sneak peek:
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Hm well I may have to try that. I could also make a 2-1 but it wouldn't be as nice as the muzzy. I have my rear almost completely collected. Newgen swingarm swap, and gsxr600 shock mounted. What are you doing for a swing arm.
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Newgen swingarm swap, and gsxr600 shock mounted. What are you doing for a swing arm.
Sounds like a good setup, running a zx600r swinger - 1992 I have to narrow the pivot mount by like 1/2 inch. May be able to get away with reusing the stock zx600 needle bearings by pounding in deeper- the factory machined about 3/8th deeper than necessary on each side. The pivot bolt on the zx is 17mm vs ninjette's 15mm, thinking about boring out or using some bushing adapters.

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I was also looking into running ex500 later model wheels since they are so cheap. Was afraid of spacing though. I think I am just going to put out the cash for the lighter new wheels. Last thing I need is the wheels. Never tried centering a wheel that wasn't original on the swingarm so not sure how it is done. Was the front end and rear cheaper than doing the newgen swap?
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I was also looking into running ex500 later model wheels since they are so cheap. Was afraid of spacing though. I think I am just going to put out the cash for the lighter new wheels. Last thing I need is the wheels. Never tried centering a wheel that wasn't original on the swingarm so not sure how it is done. Was the front end and rear cheaper than doing the newgen swap?
I paid $150 for front&rear incl. ignition locks wheels etc.
I mainly chose this as seemed like pretty straight forward swap to get dual front brakes. I like the wheel color scheme too.
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Never tried centering a wheel that wasn't original on the swingarm so not sure how it is done.
Spacers cut to the dimension needed.
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My two bro inlaws came by and i decided to recruit them to chop away. We narrowed the swinger pivot and mocked the swinger. Fitted the gsxr shock. The ninjette rear sprocket fit the 600 wheel perfetly. Just have to space out the dogbones with washers as the 600 swinger mount points are a bit further apart. Otherwise perfect fit.

Now I need to find a good place to find needle bearings hardened axle and or bushings to finalize the rear install.
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So, ninja 600 swingarm like my old one, and you just have to cut come material off the ends? Did you use the 600 linkage. Or the 250?I'm trying to throw a different swingarm on my bike for a wider wheel. May have to get another one!
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So, ninja 600 swingarm like my old one, and you just have to cut come material off the ends? Did you use the 600 linkage. Or the 250?I'm trying to throw a different swingarm on my bike for a wider wheel. May have to get another one!

Also when you narrow the 600 swinger there may be enough room to press in the 600 stock bearing but no room for the seals. I will look for maye a narrower bearing that may have a built in race to fit the 250 hardware.
I used the ninjette linkage just need to get some washers for the bottom dogbones mount. I have non -stock dogbones I am sure the prior owner lowered the bike.

Going to see if i can use the ninjette brake caliper since it's newer and smaller. Rear wheel axles seem about same thickness between the 250/600.
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Thanks for the info. The axles are both 17 mm, I'll be picking one up to hope to make my wheel work!
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Seems this Suzuki bearing might work with ninjette stock axle bolt and bushing 09263-22017
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Plan to fit the swinger:

Use ninjette hardened 22mm bushing and stock bolt.

Ordered a bearing with built in seals HK2229UU Needle Bearing 22x28x29 TLA2229UU Needle Bearings from amazon

ordered a bushing from 28mmx33mmX45mm bushing from bronzebushings.com- will trim the length to fit within overall width.

Main issue I see is that the bronze bushing will be press fit- like the stock bearing is. BUT the new bearing is going freely slide into new bushing. My solution is to sort of mushroom the end inside so that the bearing will not slide towards inside of swinger. The frame will not allow the bearing to slide out. My guess is the shock and linkages will keep swinger centered from moving from side to side.
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swinger goods came in

Pic:Top is the zx600r swing arm pivot bolt then the bearing bushing then the ninjette pivot bushing. The bottom items left to right are the bronze bushing i bought, then zx600 swinger bearing, then the bearing I bought, then the bearing and bushing installed on the ninjette stock swinger axle hardened bearing bushing. The one missing item is the ninjette swinger pivot bolt which is thinner than the zx600s. Fit is excellent!
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Played with wires a bit. Should be pretty straightforward to hide all that crap under the seat. Also worked on the seat pan. Its made of 1 1/2x 1 1/2 aluminum angle from Lowes and a piece of old aluminum sign. This way did not need to mess with bending the sides, i will use screws to hold it together. The blue tape shows the end of the driver seat area and where the cushioned hump will be.

New tires getting installed and balanced this weekend. Not looking forward to that.
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The stocker is 21.25 ish inches the zx600r is 22.25 ish as measured from the center of the pivot. So 1 inch longer. Going to finalize swinger install this coming weekend also.
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Diy Mounted new tires front and rear. ordered new brake lines and seals. need to figure out headlight mount & gauge mount, finalize seat pan and framen support. Hardest parts of build are done though. Will update once something meaningful happens soon.
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Welded seat support braces. I used a hoop from a bar stool then mig welded.
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I would have loved to do a front end swap, I just to heavy for a stock 250 setup. but I didn't know about all those all balls swap kits or I would have..... Next winter.... Or maybey I'll need more power by then, this one is fun for now.
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Played with wires a bit. Should be pretty straightforward to hide all that crap under the seat. Also worked on the swat pan. Its made of 1 1/2x 1 1/2 aluminum angle from Lowes and a piece of old aluminum sign. This way dis not need to mess with bending the sides, i will use screws to hold it together. The blue tape shows the end of the seat and where the hump will be.

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Those are some nice airfilters...where did you get them?
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