Why won't they sell us a bike?

verboten1 · May 25th, 2015, 06:52 AM

We've been to 3 dealers, and contacted 2 others, and they will not follow through on a 2015 Versys 650 LT.

We pretty much walked in and said

The only thing I can think is since it was my wife's money/bike I let her take lead.

We were even looking used at one place, and the guy walked away from us and never came back. I didn't realize it took so much work to buy a bike!

ForceofWill · May 25th, 2015, 06:55 AM

I hate dealers like that. I'm not going to work to give you my money yet most of them won't even get off their butt.

verboten1 · May 25th, 2015, 06:59 AM

I usually pull up to the house of where I am buying a bike, had them money, load up and leave. This sucks.

snot · May 25th, 2015, 06:31 PM

Odd, maybe call ahead and ask if they are selling bikes or just showing them..

good luck.

alex.s · May 25th, 2015, 06:33 PM

does the conversation go something like "take my money!... but i want to pay this price which is below what you're offering me, but i say it's fair in the middle of summer when the same bike can easily be sold at a higher price. also i want to finance it, and i want 0 down with 0% interest... also 0 apr."

cbinker · May 25th, 2015, 08:19 PM

are you low balling them? this is prime time selling season, someone will pay reasonable $$$ for the bike. I remember when kawasaki revamped the 250 in 08, people were paying a hefty sum for a 3500 bike.

verboten1 · May 25th, 2015, 08:56 PM

Low balling? We haven't even gotten a single dollar figure! I know what msrp is, because we researched it. Beyond that, nothing!

xorbe · May 26th, 2015, 01:53 AM

Same problem a while back trying to buy a new Fit with multiple Honda dealers. No quotes, no call backs, no interested sales people.

InvisiBill · May 26th, 2015, 10:37 AM

They obviously don't want your money. Help them out and take it elsewhere. Though it sounds like you're running out of other places to take it at this point...

Perhaps walk in with a wad of cash and wave it around? Like others have said, I can see them preferring to not sell you the bike super-cheap, when they should be able to sell it to someone else for full price. But if they're just ignoring you before numbers are even discussed, it sounds like a pretty horrible business. I was under the impression that it was the salesguy's job to sell things.

DEFY · May 26th, 2015, 10:50 AM

You even bring up numbers at all in your convo, like saying that you believe it should only cost around *blah* based off your estimates online. I'd just start by asking if they are capable of getting the bike in for you and then eventually work into price when they see your interested. But I do believe the whole walking away if they don't even have interest in doing their job when you are making it far easier on them by saying what you want and not having to poke around forever looking.

cbinker · May 26th, 2015, 11:17 AM

try sitting on a bike and starting it up. see how they react.

crazymadbastard · May 26th, 2015, 11:46 AM

lolz

Mjj · May 26th, 2015, 12:43 PM

Several years back, after an arduous period of indecision on my part, I finally decided I was going to buy a Volks Passat. So I walked into the dealership where I had done a test drive a month or so before and waited to be pounced on. Nothing happened. Finally walked up to the reception desk and said I needed to talk to someone about buying a Passat. She said, sorry we don't have any to sell. And no other sales people came up to talk to me. None.

I spun a slow 360 looking at all the cars they had for sale. Then I left, never to return. BTW this would have been a cash transaction, so, well, beats the heck out of me what the problem was.

How weird is that? Just like your experience I have no explanation.

You know, when I have a choice, I now only do business with people/companies that appreciate the business I have to offer. If there is no respect or just plain courtesy, I move on to the next vendor. And I reciprocate by being loyal and understanding that they need to make some money on the transaction.

Life's too short to support jerks. Plus, there is a lot of good folks out there. You may have to try a couple to find them, but they most certainly are there.

crazymadbastard · May 26th, 2015, 12:53 PM

Yep looks like either sharks or jellyfish at the dealers.

Ralgha · May 26th, 2015, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mjj

BTW this would have been a cash transaction, so, well, beats the heck out of me what the problem was.

They don't like cash transactions, they want to make money off the interest they get when they bone you with a loan. Don't tell them you're paying cash until after you've agreed on a price.

May 25th, 2015, 06:52 AM	#1
verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	Why won't they sell us a bike? We've been to 3 dealers, and contacted 2 others, and they will not follow through on a 2015 Versys 650 LT. We pretty much walked in and said The only thing I can think is since it was my wife's money/bike I let her take lead. We were even looking used at one place, and the guy walked away from us and never came back. I didn't realize it took so much work to buy a bike! __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

May 25th, 2015, 06:59 AM	#3
verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	I usually pull up to the house of where I am buying a bike, had them money, load up and leave. This sucks. __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

May 25th, 2015, 06:31 PM	#4
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	Odd, maybe call ahead and ask if they are selling bikes or just showing them.. good luck. __________________________________________________ https://www.brocksperformance.com/VZ...0035+C450.aspx

May 25th, 2015, 06:33 PM	#5
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	does the conversation go something like "take my money!... but i want to pay this price which is below what you're offering me, but i say it's fair in the middle of summer when the same bike can easily be sold at a higher price. also i want to finance it, and i want 0 down with 0% interest... also 0 apr." __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2015, 08:19 PM	#6
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	are you low balling them? this is prime time selling season, someone will pay reasonable $$$ for the bike. I remember when kawasaki revamped the 250 in 08, people were paying a hefty sum for a 3500 bike. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

May 25th, 2015, 06:55 AM	#2
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	I hate dealers like that. I'm not going to work to give you my money yet most of them won't even get off their butt.

May 25th, 2015, 08:56 PM	#7
verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	Low balling? We haven't even gotten a single dollar figure! I know what msrp is, because we researched it. Beyond that, nothing! __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

May 26th, 2015, 01:53 AM	#8
xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	Same problem a while back trying to buy a new Fit with multiple Honda dealers. No quotes, no call backs, no interested sales people.

May 26th, 2015, 10:37 AM	#9
InvisiBill EX500 full of EX250 parts Name: Bill Location: Grand Rapids-ish, MI Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '18 Ninja 400 • '09 Ninja 500R (selling) • '98 VFR800 (project) • '85 Vulcan VN700 (sold) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Aug '15	They obviously don't want your money. Help them out and take it elsewhere. Though it sounds like you're running out of other places to take it at this point... Perhaps walk in with a wad of cash and wave it around? Like others have said, I can see them preferring to not sell you the bike super-cheap, when they should be able to sell it to someone else for full price. But if they're just ignoring you before numbers are even discussed, it sounds like a pretty horrible business. I was under the impression that it was the salesguy's job to sell things. __________________________________________________ * Unregistered, I'm not your mom and I'm not paying for your parts, so do whatever you want with your own bike. *

May 26th, 2015, 10:50 AM	#10
DEFY ᗧ•••ᗣ•ᗣᗣ•••ᗣ Name: Nick Location: NY Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R and 2014 Triumph 675R Posts: A lot.	You even bring up numbers at all in your convo, like saying that you believe it should only cost around blah based off your estimates online. I'd just start by asking if they are capable of getting the bike in for you and then eventually work into price when they see your interested. But I do believe the whole walking away if they don't even have interest in doing their job when you are making it far easier on them by saying what you want and not having to poke around forever looking. __________________________________________________ Spoiler for topic: It might just be the [you] tag

May 26th, 2015, 11:17 AM	#11
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	try sitting on a bike and starting it up. see how they react. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

May 26th, 2015, 11:46 AM	#12
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	lolz __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

May 26th, 2015, 12:43 PM	#13
Mjj ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: Wisconsin Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 43	Several years back, after an arduous period of indecision on my part, I finally decided I was going to buy a Volks Passat. So I walked into the dealership where I had done a test drive a month or so before and waited to be pounced on. Nothing happened. Finally walked up to the reception desk and said I needed to talk to someone about buying a Passat. She said, sorry we don't have any to sell. And no other sales people came up to talk to me. None. I spun a slow 360 looking at all the cars they had for sale. Then I left, never to return. BTW this would have been a cash transaction, so, well, beats the heck out of me what the problem was. How weird is that? Just like your experience I have no explanation. You know, when I have a choice, I now only do business with people/companies that appreciate the business I have to offer. If there is no respect or just plain courtesy, I move on to the next vendor. And I reciprocate by being loyal and understanding that they need to make some money on the transaction. Life's too short to support jerks. Plus, there is a lot of good folks out there. You may have to try a couple to find them, but they most certainly are there.

May 26th, 2015, 12:53 PM	#14
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	Yep looks like either sharks or jellyfish at the dealers. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

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