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August 5th, 2015, 12:43 PM
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in your machine
Name: Scott
Location: Summer Shade, Ky.
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MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15
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Possible alternative for Factory Pro Blue Magic Shift Spring
I was wondering if the Blue Magic Shift Spring is worth the $30, or not. Or is there a cheap solution? Like maybe a spring from another model bike?
http://www.factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/prodk14.html I welcome all comments. 
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August 5th, 2015, 01:06 PM
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in your machine
Name: Scott
Location: Summer Shade, Ky.
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MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15
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I'm guessing the Factory Pro is a higher rate, so if I shim the existing spring it wouldn't increase the spring rate, it would just be preloaded so to speak. I know some of the earlier Kawasaki used the same set up, like the KZ750 FOR example, if one of those have a higher rate than the Ninjette.
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August 5th, 2015, 01:52 PM
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Fighting Texas Aggie '05
Name: Neil
Location: Hutto, TX
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.
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^^ correct, while a shim in the spring may help give a desired result - it is not apples to apples with replacing with higher rate spring. It would be nice to find a cheaper alternative. I suppose what we need to do is determine the rate of the stocker and get some dimensions.
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August 5th, 2015, 02:05 PM
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in your machine
Name: Scott
Location: Summer Shade, Ky.
Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot.
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MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15
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Now if I cut the OEM spring, and then shim the difference, then we are in business.
Just like fork springs.
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August 5th, 2015, 04:27 PM
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ninjette.org sage
Name: Kevin
Location: Portland, OR
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, Tiger 800 XRT Posts: 828
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I installed the blue spring in my bike. Definitely stiffer, though it did loosen up a bit with use. Haven't had any missed shifts with it, I like it.
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August 5th, 2015, 07:37 PM
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Fighting Texas Aggie '05
Name: Neil
Location: Hutto, TX
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.
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August 5th, 2015, 08:39 PM
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in your machine
Name: Scott
Location: Summer Shade, Ky.
Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot.
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MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15
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Would you happen to know how much stiffer the blue vs OEM spring was? Did it look different, like the thickness of the spring/wire diameter? I don't suppose to have a micrometer handy? My theory about this spring is it's from another model bike, and Factory Pro found the one, and is either repackaging, or have them made to that spec. I know earlier models of Kawasaki used the same design, I'm guessing it's one of those.
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August 5th, 2015, 08:44 PM
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Fast-Guy wannabe
Name: Jason
Location: Brentwood, Ca
Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Jan '13
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Curious but why the stiff shift spring? what are we looking for with the change?
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August 5th, 2015, 09:04 PM
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in your machine
Name: Scott
Location: Summer Shade, Ky.
Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot.
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MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15
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Okay so after some quick research, I found this spring, and it's many uses
92081-112 SPRING Description Purchase this Kawasaki 92081-112 SPRING --- SPRING, SPRING, NEUTRAL,POSITIONING This Kawasaki 92081-112 SPRING is used on these models and components: 1981 KLT200-A1 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 KLT200-A1 1981 KLT200-A1 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 KLT200-A4-A4A 1981 KLT200-A2 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 KLT200-A1 1981 KLT200-A2 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 KLT200-A4-A4A 1982 KLT200-A3 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 KLT200-A1 1982 KLT200-A3 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 KLT200-A4-A4A 1982 KLT250-A1 KLT250 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82 A1) 1983 KLT200-A4 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 KLT200-A1 1983 KLT200-A4 KLT200 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 KLT200-A4-A4A 1983 KLT200-A4A Duckster GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 KLT200-A1 1983 KLT200-A4A Duckster GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 KLT200-A4-A4A 1983 KLT250-A2 KLT250 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82 A1) 2002 KVF650-A1 Prairie 650 4X4 OIL PUMP-OIL FILTER 2002 KVF650-B1 Prairie 650 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1980 KZ440-D1 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 D1) 1980 KZ440-D1 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 D2-D3-D4 1980 KZ550-A1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A1-A2) 1980 KZ550-A1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A3-A4) 1980 KZ550-C1 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 C1-C2) 1980 KZ550-C1 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 C3-C4) 1980 KZ650-E1 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1980 KZ650-F1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1980 KZ750-E1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 KZY 50-E1) 1980 KZ750-E1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81 -'82 KZ750-E2 1980 KZ750-G1 LTD II GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1980 KZ750-H1 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 H1) 1980 KZ750-H1 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 H2-H3-H4) 1981 KD80-M2 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1981 KE100-A10 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM (KE100-A9-A10) 1981 KE125-A8 KE125 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A7-A8) 1981 KE125-A8 KE125 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A9-A10) 1981 KL250-A4 KLR250 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('78-'79 KL250-A1 1981 KL250-A4 KLR250 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 KL250-A3 1981 KM100-A7 KM100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM (KM100-A6-A7) 1981 KZ1300-A3 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1981 KZ250-D2 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 D1) 1981 KZ250-D2 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81 D2) 1981 KZ440-A2 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 A1) 1981 KZ440-A2 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 A2-A3-A4) 1981 KZ440-B2 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81 B2) 1981 KZ440-D2 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 D1) 1981 KZ440-D2 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 D2-D3-D4 1981 KZ440-D3 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 D1) 1981 KZ440-D3 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 D2-D3-D4 1981 KZ550-A2 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A1-A2) 1981 KZ550-A2 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A3-A4) 1981 KZ550-C2 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 C1-C2) 1981 KZ550-C2 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 C3-C4) 1981 KZ550-D1 GPz GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1981 KZ650-H1 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 H1-H2) 1981 KZ650-H1 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 H3) 1981 KZ750-E2 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 KZY 50-E1) 1981 KZ750-E2 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81 -'82 KZ750-E2 1981 KZ750-H2 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 H1) 1981 KZ750-H2 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 H2-H3-H4) 1982 KD80-M3 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KE100-B1 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KE125-A9 KE125 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A7-A8) 1982 KE125-A9 KE125 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A9-A10) 1982 KL250-A5 KLR250 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ1300-A4 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ250-L1 CSR Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ440-A3 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 A1) 1982 KZ440-A3 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 A2-A3-A4) 1982 KZ440-D4 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 D1) 1982 KZ440-D4 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 D2-D3-D4 1982 KZ440-G1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ550-A3 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A1-A2) 1982 KZ550-A3 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A3-A4) 1982 KZ550-C3 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 C1-C2) 1982 KZ550-C3 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 C3-C4) 1982 KZ550-H1 GPz GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ650-H2 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 H1-H2) 1982 KZ650-H2 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 H3) 1982 KZ750-E3 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 KZY 50-E1) 1982 KZ750-E3 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81 -'82 KZ750-E2 1982 KZ750-H3 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 H1) 1982 KZ750-H3 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 H2-H3-H4) 1982 KZ750-M1 CSR Twin GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ750-N1 Spectre GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1982 KZ750-R1 GPz GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KD80-M4 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KE100-B2 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KE125-A10 KE125 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A7-A8) 1983 KE125-A10 KE125 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A9-A10) 1983 KZ440-A4 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 A1) 1983 KZ440-A4 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 A2-A3-A4) 1983 KZ440-D5 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 D1) 1983 KZ440-D5 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 D2-D3-D4 1983 KZ550-A4 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 A1-A2) 1983 KZ550-A4 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 A3-A4) 1983 KZ550-C4 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80-'81 C1-C2) 1983 KZ550-C4 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('82-'83 C3-C4) 1983 KZ550-F1 Spectre GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KZ550-H2 GPz GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KZ550-M1 LTD Shaft GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KZ650-H3 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'82 H1-H2) 1983 KZ650-H3 CSR GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('83 H3) 1983 KZ750-F1 LTD Shaft GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KZ750-H4 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('80 H1) 1983 KZ750-H4 LTD GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM ('81-'83 H2-H3-H4) 1983 KZ750-K1 LTD Belt GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KZ750-L3 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 KZ750-N2 Spectre GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 ZN1300-A1 Voyager GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1983 ZX750-A1 GPz 750 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 KD80-M5 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 KE100-B3 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 KZ550-F2 LTD Shaft GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 KZ700-A1 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 KZ750-K2 CANADA ONLY GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 ZN1300-A2 Voyager GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 ZN700-A1 LTD Shaft GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 ZX550-A1 GPz GEAR.CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 ZX750-A2 GPz 750 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1984 ZX750-E1 GPz 750 Turbo GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 KD80-M6 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 KE100-B4 CANADA ONLY GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 ZN1300-A3 Voyager GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 ZN700-A2 LTD Shaft GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 ZX550-A2 GPz GEAR.CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 ZX600-A1 Ninja 600 CRANKSHAFT 1985 ZX600-A1 Ninja 600 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 ZX750-A3 GPz 750 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1985 ZX750-E2 GPz 750 Turbo GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1986 EX250-E1 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM & FORKS 1986 KD80-M7 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1986 KE100-B5 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1986 ZL600-A1 ZL600 Eliminator CRANKSHAFT 1986 ZL600-A1 ZL600 Eliminator GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1986 ZN1300-A4 Voyager GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1986 ZX550-A3 GPz GEAR.CHANGE MECHANISM 1986 ZX600-A2 Ninja 600 CRANKSHAFT 1986 ZX600-A2 Ninja 600 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1987 EX250-E2 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM & FORKS 1987 KD80-M8 KD80 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1987 KE100-B6 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1987 ZL600-A2 ZL600 Eliminator CRANKSHAFT 1987 ZL600-A2 ZL600 Eliminator GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1987 ZN1300-A5 Voyager GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1987 ZX600-A3 Ninja 600 CRANKSHAFT 1987 ZX600-A3 Ninja 600 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1987 ZX600-B1 Ninja 600RX CRANKSHAFT 1987 ZX600-B1 Ninja 600RX GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1988 EL250-B2 Eliminator GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1988 EX250-F2 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1988 KE100-B7 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1988 ZN1300-A6 Voyager GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1988 ZX600-C1 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1988 ZX600-C1 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1989 EL250-B3 Eliminator GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1989 EX250-F3 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1989 KE100-B8 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1989 ZX600-C2 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1989 ZX600-C2 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1990 EX250-F4 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1990 KE100-B9 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1990 ZR550-B1 Zephyr GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1990 ZX600-C3 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1990 ZX600-C3 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1991 KE100-B10 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1991 ZR550-B2 Zephyr GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1991 ZX600-C4 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1991 ZX600-C4 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1992 KE100-B11 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1992 ZR550-B3 Zephyr GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1992 ZX600-C5 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1992 ZX600-C5 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1993 KE100-B12 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1993 ZR550-B4 Zephyr GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1993 ZX600-C6 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1993 ZX600-C6 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1994 KE100-B13 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1994 ZX600-C7 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1994 ZX600-C7 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1995 KE100-B14 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1995 ZX600-C8 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1995 ZX600-C8 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1996 KE100-B15 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1996 ZL600-B2 Eliminator 600 CRANKSHAFT 1996 ZL600-B2 Eliminator 600 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1996 ZX600-C9 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1996 ZX600-C9 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1997 KE100-B16 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1997 ZL600-B3 Eliminator 600 CRANKSHAFT 1997 ZL600-B3 Eliminator 600 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1997 ZX600-C10 Ninja 600R CRANKSHAFT 1997 ZX600-C10 Ninja 600R GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1998 KE100-B17 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1999 KE100-B18 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2000 KE100-B19 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2000 KH125-M5 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2001 KE100-B20 KE100 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2003 KH125-M8 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2004 KH125-M9 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM Funny thing is you can see it was used on the earlier model Ninjette, along with other bigger models. But if you look up the same spring, but for older model Ninjette, you don't see the large crossover Overview 92144-1580 SPRING Description Purchase this Kawasaki 92144-1580 SPRING --- SPRING,NEUTRAL POSITION This Kawasaki 92144-1580 SPRING is used on these models and components: 1991 EL250-E1 Eliminator 250 GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1991 ZR750-C1 Zephyr 750 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1992 EL250-E2 Eliminator 250 GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1992 EX250-F6 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1992 ZR750-C2 Zephyr 750 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1993 EL250-E3 Eliminator 250 GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1993 EX250-F7 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1993 ZR750-C3 Zephyr 750 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 1994 EL250-E4 Eliminator 250 GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1994 EX250-F8 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1995 EX250-F9 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1996 EX250-F10 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1997 EX250-F11 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1998 EX250-F12 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 1999 EX250-F13 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2000 EX250-F14 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2000 ZR750-F2 ZR-7 GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2001 EX250-F15 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2001 ZR750-H1 ZR-7S GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2002 EX250-F16 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2002 ZR750-H2 ZR-7S GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2003 EX250-F17 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2003 ZR750-H3 ZR-7S GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2004 EX250-F18 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2004 ZR750-H4 CANADA ONLY GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2005 EX250-F19 Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2005 ZR750-H5 CANADA ONLY GEAR CHANGE MECHANISM 2006 EX250F6F Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2007 EX250F7F Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2008 EX250J8F Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2009 EX250J9F Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2009 EX250J9FA Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2010 EX250JAF Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2010 EX250JAFA Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2011 EX250JBF Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2011 EX250JBFA Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2012 EX250JCF Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) 2012 EX250JCFA Ninja 250R GEAR CHANGE DRUM-SHIFT FORK(S) So I find this interesting to say the least.
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Snake oil and "mechanic in a bottle" if you ask me.
I bought into the hype and figured I had to have one. After looking around, I found a forum member who sold me a used one for a few bucks to cover shipping. He mentioned not much a feel difference on his track 250r... said it was about the difference in feel between having a chain properly tensioned (feeling of blue spring) and having a chain with too much slop. I paid him and he shipped the spring, and then we had a few back and forth PM about the feel of the spring at which point I lost my enthusiasm to install it due to his words. Regardless, I still have this magic blue spring and I've never installed it as the bike has been down for installation of race cams, valve lash adjust, and several other overhaul type procedures. If anyone needs any measurements, I have a full wealth of machinist tools in my possession and this spring is sitting in storage on the bench right next to my tapered roller steering stem bearings and other "this part will make the bike defy gravity" type things which I haven't had the time to install. Let me know what you want to know. Reason I cooperate is that I called the company and pretended to be an idiot, asked a few questions about variable valve timing advance and other preschool engine hot-rodding techniques regarding their products and was thoroughly dissatisfied with the knowledge of the salesman. His pitch was "you won't understand this, and don't try, but send us money!" I can't blame him, we are all trying to turn a profit.
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If it's possible, could you measure both springs? I'm curious if there is a difference between the wire diameters, and number of coils.
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So the "theory" behind this is somewhat logical. What you have with the shift spring, is the mechanism that holds a "follower pin" against the recesses of the shift star attached to the shift drum. When you depress the shift lever and it turns the shift star/drum - the star pushes up against the "follower pin", compresses the spring at the height of the star point, and then follows the profile of the shift star. The stiff spring provides a greater force against the "follower pin" as it rides along the shift star profile, which may allow for more positive feel of engagement and the additional force keep the pin against the profile of the star with less "slop". The spring and pin's actual purpose is to provide the "hold" for the shift drum in neutral. As neutral on the star has a little valley at the peak of the "star point" between gears. A worn out/weak/whatever spring/pin/star makes neutral pretty difficult to find fyi.
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It was significantly stiffer than stock, it took noticeably more force to shift. It also does feel very positive when engaging the new gear. It's not completely snake oil as there is a definite change, whether the change is "better" or not, I'm not sure. It's not worse though.
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Okay so I just pulled the trigger on a used one on eBay for cheap, even got the whole assembly
neutral position bolt and pin, spring off running 78 KZ400 with 20,000 miles good used condition- no issues P/N 92001-1037 (bolt) P/N 92043-076 (pin) P/N 92081-112 (spring) All the part numbers are identical to the Ninjette, with the exception of the spring itself. It's used, hopefully not too much, so now I wait til it arrives to find out if this is a cheaper alternative to the Blue Spring. If there's a difference, I will then move on to ordering a new one, just in case the used one is too used, and might have lost its spring so to speak of. My theory is Kawasaki switched to a lighter spring, same as they did with the clutch springs themselves, to make it easier to shift for beginners.
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$30 is a lot for a pretty blue paint job. If you have the means to measure distance and force simultaneously, it's not difficult to determine the rate. Once you have the rate and size you want, start looking at McMaster Carr and work your way to Century and the other big spring manufacturers. Somebody out there probably has what you are looking for off the shelf. You may have to buy 10 or 20 or them. Sounds like a group buy.
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=238279 I'd be happy to do the measuring if you don't have the stuff. Sounds like you have a lot of measuring stuff, I'd be happy to fill you in on the details of the procedure if you need it. |
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Okay parts arrived today, so I tore into the usps priority mail box like I kid on Christmas morning.
Upon visual inspection between the springs, the newer one is a bit longer, the wire gauge is also a little thicker. Next was the pinch test, and the newer one is also a little bit stiffer, took more effort to compress. Unfortunately no ride report due the rain, but I did install it, and I did notice a difference between the two just going for neutral to first. Stay tuned for a ride report, and more information, measurements will have to wait til my new digital caliper arrives. @corksil if you could take some measurements of the Blue Magic Spring, that would be appreciated. Til then here's a picture, you can see the physical differences to see for yourself. OEM Ninjette on the left, part # 92081-1112 on the right.
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Were you experiencing false neutrals, or the bike popping out of gear?
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Popped out a couple of times under hard acceleration, but I blame my left foot for being too easy.
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Stock spring is weak and becomes compressed and your shifts at times become a false neutral, or once in a great while will pop out of gear on you as the spring didn't allow it to seat properly in the groove from the lack of pressure.
I have had to pull mine out and stretch it back out and can tell the difference immediately. I keep wanting to get one but always seem to forget to pull the trigger on buying it. |
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Good information @Ghostt, looking forward to your ride report.
By the way when I look to the website about the 'Blue Magic Shift Spring' the shipping price makes me thinking twice...  From Germany the shipping for items like this is app. 7.50 USD. |
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Hopefully this may be a cheaper alternative to the Blue Magic Spring. Ordering one new from partzilla is still under $10.00.
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August 11th, 2015, 08:50 AM
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Get me the measurements of ether spring and I'll start looking at my parts suppliers for options. At a quick glance the tempered steel(made to resist heat) are about $2.50 each, some are sold individual and others in packs of 6-12. Just because someone out there found a spring that'll fit into 500 different bike doesn't mean it the perfect one for every bike. If someone feeds me a little info then I'll probably order several options and give them all a try.
I need the total uncompressed length, #of coils, wire thickness, ID and OD. Measurements can be in MM or Inch, I convert the values on my end. By the way what's involved in changing the spring? Is it a 10 min job or something more involved? |
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I run these in my race bikes to prevent the back shifting from 6th to 5th. They seem to have reduced this phenomenon by about 90%. After you get used to the initial stiffness and added effort to shift you really don't notice it. Clunks a little bit more when shifting from neutral to 1st gear. All in all I would say this product does what it was designed for. You have to be the judge if its to pricey for your wallet.
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spring rate, preloaded spring, effective spring length... what gives, you might ask ("the spring does!" -- shouted from the audience)
what is the difference? look at the end result. two numbers. force at full deflection. force at minimum deflection. suppose you have a stock spring rate of 10n at 1mm deflection, and 100n at 10mm deflection. the spring is 10n/mm spring rate right? suppose you swap to a fancy 12n/mm spring... at 1mm deflection, its 12n. at 10mm deflection, 120n. suppose you have your 10n/mm spring preloaded by 2 mm. now at 1mm deflection, its actually 30n. and at 2 mm deflection, its 40n. at 10mm deflection, its 120n. what would the difference be in feel? thats the real quantifier, right? how it feels? ("ungh! feels so good!!") with the preloaded spring, the initial movement will be stiffer, but then ease into the same end-throw stiffness. with the higher spring rate, it would be easier at the beginning, but then get to the same stiffness at the end. so which is better for your gear shifts? i would think the one that is stiffer at the beginning would be better. hell, i would probably pick a preloaded spring that is a LOWER spring rate than stock if anything. good luck, have fries.
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If simply pull my spring out at the shop while I'm here but I've been commuting via bicycle lately and don't have my ninja handy. Eventually I'll remember to pull it out and measure it if someone on here doesn't beat me to it.
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length and spring rate are not related. and 12n/mm is a hypothetical spring. you probably mean the blue magic spring is longer. but since we dont know the spring rate, for all we know it could be the same rate as stock but slightly longer to force preload without a washer
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Isn't there a way to calculate spring rate knowing the coil diameter, wire thickness and number of coils?
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