Faux Leather Protection?

Archerzz · May 25th, 2011, 05:04 PM

So dont flame me for this but I cant find this information anywhere what sort of protection does faux leather offer, if any? I am sort of low on funds right now and cant afford a real leather jacket so while I am waiting for my Mesh gear to get in I was just wondering if anyone knows if faux leather will work in the meantime. (Obviously its better than a t-shirt)

Cuongism · May 25th, 2011, 05:27 PM

Motorcycle leather jackets are generally 1.2-1.5mm leather to offer abrasion resistance. Fashion leather isn't thick at all so they're not good for abrasion resistance and faux leather would be even worse. Neither one would also have armor that motorcycle jackets would at the shoulders, elbows, and possibly back (unless they make faux leather motorcycle jackets which I've never seen).

LazinCajun · May 25th, 2011, 06:27 PM

Skin grafts aren't exactly cheap either if you were to have an accident and the faux leather failed. I have to agree with Cuong here.

Boom King · May 25th, 2011, 07:31 PM

You won't find any information in regards to protection because faux leather is meant as a cheap fashion alternative and for animal lovers.

Anything is better than a t-shirt, however, better does not = adequate in this case.

gfloyd2002 · May 26th, 2011, 04:01 AM

For real abrasion resistance, leather needs to be at least 1 mm thick. Even real leather at a fashion weight does little to protect you. In testing, denim, fashion weight leather and nylon materials protect for less than 5 feet of sliding before you hit skin. While faux leather wasn't tested, most faux leathers would be grouped with these non-technical fabrics and do little for you. I know that some faux leathers (those for industrial furniture uses) are made to be highly abrasion resistant, but the stuff used for clothing is usually of the pleather/leatherette variety - they are very light weight, which is a good thing for fashion - and include plastics. This weight used in oz./sq foot is such that even if real leather, they'd do nothing. More importantly, those plastics used will melt to your skin in a crash and make road rash worse. Not a good thing. Here is a link to the results I've found on abrasion resistance for different fabrics: Blog Entry: Which Material is Best for Gear. A quick highlight from the blog entry:

Distance of skid before road rash:

New 100% Cotton Denim Jeans -------------------- 3' 10"
Balistic Nylon ------------------------------------- 3' 10"
Leather, Lightweight, Nude Finish, 2.25 oz/sq. ft. --- 4' 3"
Leather, Fashion Weight, 1.75 oz/sq ft. ------------- 4' 4"
Two-year-old 100% Cotton Denim Jeans ------------ 4' 5"
440D Cordura Nylon ------------------------------- 18' 3"
Kevlar 29 Aramid Fiber, Style 713 ------------------ 22' 1"
Leather, Competition Weight, 3 oz/sq. ft. ---------- 86' 0"

kkim · May 26th, 2011, 11:07 AM

Rebecca582 · June 27th, 2013, 04:59 AM

Obviously its better than a t-shirt faux jacket is my favorite

sgull · June 27th, 2013, 05:13 AM

I received a faux leather motorcycle jacket from as a gift from someone... It had decent armor inside, but I did a little test with a lighter and some of its exterior fabric. It instantly melted & went up in flames! It would probably do okay in a low speed crash because of the CE armor, but now I have it just set as a pretty mantle piece.

Consider purchasing used or mixed leather/kevlar fabrics. My jacket is a Joe Rocket Comet that has leather at all the parts where it is needed.

Slono · June 27th, 2013, 05:58 AM

I hope you told the person who gave you the gift that it was crap hahaha

csmith12 · June 27th, 2013, 06:10 AM

No.... if someone takes the time to think of you and give you a gift, accept it with a smile and say thank you. ijs

lgk · June 27th, 2013, 06:59 AM

i had no idea they made Corinthian Leather motorcycle jackets.

Alex · June 27th, 2013, 07:05 AM

Slono · June 27th, 2013, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

No.... if someone takes the time to think of you and give you a gift, accept it with a smile and say thank you. ijs

Forgot to tell you it was a joke.

csmith12 · June 27th, 2013, 08:33 AM

It's all good, thanks for clarifying.

250rr · June 27th, 2013, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Alex, I get it!

However, I wonder if some of our younger ninjetters do!

Alex · June 27th, 2013, 11:19 AM

That's half the fun of getting old; making arcane references that only old farts recognize!

lgk · June 27th, 2013, 11:41 AM

Silence!!!
Corinthian Leather is Timeless Luxury...

its suppleness and durability will be unsurpassed thousand years from now!!!

May 25th, 2011, 05:04 PM	#1
Archerzz ninjette.org member Name: Jordan Location: Greencastle, Pa Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250r Posts: 79	Faux Leather Protection? So dont flame me for this but I cant find this information anywhere what sort of protection does faux leather offer, if any? I am sort of low on funds right now and cant afford a real leather jacket so while I am waiting for my Mesh gear to get in I was just wondering if anyone knows if faux leather will work in the meantime. (Obviously its better than a t-shirt)

May 26th, 2011, 04:01 AM	#5
gfloyd2002 User Title Free Since '12 Name: Floyd Location: Barbados Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 Ninja 250R Special Edition Green Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 13 MOTM - Feb '12	For real abrasion resistance, leather needs to be at least 1 mm thick. Even real leather at a fashion weight does little to protect you. In testing, denim, fashion weight leather and nylon materials protect for less than 5 feet of sliding before you hit skin. While faux leather wasn't tested, most faux leathers would be grouped with these non-technical fabrics and do little for you. I know that some faux leathers (those for industrial furniture uses) are made to be highly abrasion resistant, but the stuff used for clothing is usually of the pleather/leatherette variety - they are very light weight, which is a good thing for fashion - and include plastics. This weight used in oz./sq foot is such that even if real leather, they'd do nothing. More importantly, those plastics used will melt to your skin in a crash and make road rash worse. Not a good thing. Here is a link to the results I've found on abrasion resistance for different fabrics: Blog Entry: Which Material is Best for Gear. A quick highlight from the blog entry: Distance of skid before road rash: New 100% Cotton Denim Jeans -------------------- 3' 10" Balistic Nylon ------------------------------------- 3' 10" Leather, Lightweight, Nude Finish, 2.25 oz/sq. ft. --- 4' 3" Leather, Fashion Weight, 1.75 oz/sq ft. ------------- 4' 4" Two-year-old 100% Cotton Denim Jeans ------------ 4' 5" 440D Cordura Nylon ------------------------------- 18' 3" Kevlar 29 Aramid Fiber, Style 713 ------------------ 22' 1" Leather, Competition Weight, 3 oz/sq. ft. ---------- 86' 0" __________________________________________________ "Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius." — William Blake

June 27th, 2013, 06:10 AM	#10
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	No.... if someone takes the time to think of you and give you a gift, accept it with a smile and say thank you. ijs __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

June 27th, 2013, 06:59 AM	#11
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	i had no idea they made Corinthian Leather motorcycle jackets. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

June 27th, 2013, 07:05 AM	#12
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	__________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 25th, 2011, 05:27 PM	#2
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Motorcycle leather jackets are generally 1.2-1.5mm leather to offer abrasion resistance. Fashion leather isn't thick at all so they're not good for abrasion resistance and faux leather would be even worse. Neither one would also have armor that motorcycle jackets would at the shoulders, elbows, and possibly back (unless they make faux leather motorcycle jackets which I've never seen).

May 25th, 2011, 06:27 PM	#3
LazinCajun ninjette.org guru Name: Anon Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 (Blue!) Posts: 488	Skin grafts aren't exactly cheap either if you were to have an accident and the faux leather failed. I have to agree with Cuong here.

May 25th, 2011, 07:31 PM	#4
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	You won't find any information in regards to protection because faux leather is meant as a cheap fashion alternative and for animal lovers. Anything is better than a t-shirt, however, better does not = adequate in this case.

May 26th, 2011, 11:07 AM	#6
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.

June 27th, 2013, 04:59 AM	#7
Rebecca582 ninjette.org newbie Name: Rebecca Location: USA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Honda Posts: 1	Obviously its better than a t-shirt faux jacket is my favorite

June 27th, 2013, 05:13 AM	#8
sgull ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Socal Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r Posts: 2	I received a faux leather motorcycle jacket from as a gift from someone... It had decent armor inside, but I did a little test with a lighter and some of its exterior fabric. It instantly melted & went up in flames! It would probably do okay in a low speed crash because of the CE armor, but now I have it just set as a pretty mantle piece. Consider purchasing used or mixed leather/kevlar fabrics. My jacket is a Joe Rocket Comet that has leather at all the parts where it is needed.

June 27th, 2013, 05:58 AM	#9
Slono ninjette.org guru Name: Solon Location: Toronto, Ontario Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (sold), 2007 SV650s (deer wrecked), 2010 Suzuki SV650S Posts: 334	I hope you told the person who gave you the gift that it was crap hahaha

June 27th, 2013, 08:33 AM	#14
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	It's all good, thanks for clarifying. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

June 27th, 2013, 11:19 AM	#16
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	That's half the fun of getting old; making arcane references that only old farts recognize! __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 27th, 2013, 11:41 AM	#17
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	Silence!!! Corinthian Leather is Timeless Luxury... its suppleness and durability will be unsurpassed thousand years from now!!! __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

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