I slam into a wall + busa crash

Old Lemon · July 13th, 2014, 03:26 PM

So in previous runs of this corner i dont really do anything differently, but when i start to brake (you can see my fingers move) my bike doesnt slow down as much as it has previously. So in my mind when I was at the turn in point I felt I was still going to fast i decided to go straight and keep it though that wall came up pretty fast. I think i handled the grass pretty well though.

Link to original page on YouTube.

And then this busa lowsided in front of me

Link to original page on YouTube.

This was my 3rd track day and there were soooo many crashes it was kinda ridiculous. I would have been able to go back out but i had air in my brake lines (for sure after the crash, my brakes were working fine up until that point) but the screws for the master cylinder lid got stripped trying to take them off so i called it a day

csmith12 · July 13th, 2014, 03:36 PM

Yes, yes... well done in the grass. Was the busa guy good after the down?

Old Lemon · July 13th, 2014, 03:37 PM

yea he was fine, i went up to him afterwards when he got back and he is pretty excited to see the video. He was able to keep riding the rest of the day

Motofool · July 13th, 2014, 03:41 PM

No real damage to your bike, it seems.

Good save on the grass !!!

choneofakind · July 13th, 2014, 04:01 PM

nailed it!

Mbene · July 13th, 2014, 04:04 PM

Nice save!

subxero · July 13th, 2014, 04:30 PM

any thoughts after seeing it on vid?

Looked like a double apex, you think you could have scrubbed some speed in the middle but kept a decent line and stayed on the track?

The buss looked like they were over pretty far... where they crossed up?

csmith12 · July 13th, 2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by subxero

The buss looked like they were over pretty far... where they crossed up?

Busa guy missed his turn in point or what should have been the turn in point, tried to save it by leaning the sh*t outta it midcorner. Valiant effort, but was more than what he could keep upright, crossed up or not.

Old Lemon · July 13th, 2014, 04:47 PM

after reviewing the video, i saw that after the apex i think i may have been able to slam it over and possibly stay on but i was just so surprised at how little my brake was working the moment i tipped in i just aborted cause i wasnt use to entering that corner that quickly. and that corner is a triple apex lul

and the busa guy wasnt bad. He told me he was chasing me for a while and couldnt pass me in the corners but when he passed me on the straight i had trouble keeping up with him in some sections.

Sirref · July 13th, 2014, 05:25 PM

dude you missed it, there was a massive pileup after you left 3bikes in advanced. someone slid out in the bottom of the karussel and took 2 other riders out that were on the bank

csmith12 · July 13th, 2014, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

after reviewing the video, i saw that after the apex i think i may have been able to slam it over and possibly stay on but i was just so surprised at how little my brake was working the moment i tipped in i just aborted cause i wasnt use to entering that corner that quickly. and that corner is a triple apex lul

Don't sweat it brah. Some cats would have told you to just lean the crap outta it and lowsided. But there is no shame in standing it up and taking advantage of the run off. That is why it's there, to help you with little mistakes.

csmith12 · July 13th, 2014, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

dude you missed it, there was a massive pileup after you left 3bikes in advanced. someone slid out in the bottom of the karussel and took 2 other riders out that were on the bank

Hold up... you meet Mr. Lemon? I expect pics.

Sirref · July 13th, 2014, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Hold up... you meet Mr. Lemon? I expect pics.

I actually think we didn't get any pics

I'm going back the 27th, if he comes then I'll make sure to get a few

Old Lemon · July 13th, 2014, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

dude you missed it, there was a massive pileup after you left 3bikes in advanced. someone slid out in the bottom of the karussel and took 2 other riders out that were on the bank

dam yo thats crazy. but such is the risk of a 3 line huge corner. I make myself only do one track day a month, so i wont be there soon. My friend said hes going to pocono in august and that looks like a cool track

@csmith12 we didnt get any pics but i was planning on following him for a session or 2 for some video but that didnt happen cause i wasnt able to ride. there were 2 other 250s in I group with me i was hoping to ride with but also didnt happen

Sirref · July 13th, 2014, 06:05 PM

oh yea, you saw the results of whatshisname's crash right (guy who had a cbr1000rr and a newgen 250 who was with another guy who had another newgen 250 and a different bike (don't remember which kind))

I also just saw the video, you were so close to stopping in time :/

Old Lemon · July 13th, 2014, 06:47 PM

i never got to see their bikes, and yea shenny has very little run off room. if only there had been like 10 more feet i would have been just dandy

Sirref · July 13th, 2014, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

i never got to see their bikes, and yea shenny has very little run off room. if only there had been like 10 more feet i would have been just dandy

They were both all kinds of torn up, the cbr1000rr especially. It would need a ton of work to get it running again, I don't know how the other guy crashed but the guy w/the cbr1000rr had his shifter fall off right before a corner and there was nothing he could do

csmith12 · July 13th, 2014, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

@csmith12 we didnt get any pics but i was planning on following him for a session or 2 for some video but that didnt happen cause i wasnt able to ride. there were 2 other 250s in I group with me i was hoping to ride with but also didnt happen

Next time

Old Lemon · July 14th, 2014, 07:36 AM

@Sirref that sucks, but that is exactly why i was really iffy on letting you borrow mine when i know mine is secured in there. if i had a spare shifter i would have let you have it no problem

Sirref · July 14th, 2014, 08:09 AM

don't worry about it, just because I ask doesn't mean you're required to help me out. Luckily I managed to bend it back and keep going anyway. Next time I'll be bringing a bunch of my spare parts in a box

Xtina · July 25th, 2014, 09:26 AM

Busa on a track?? First time I've seen someone do that. Nice grass riding. Too bad about the tip at the end.

July 13th, 2014, 03:26 PM	#1
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I slam into a wall + busa crash So in previous runs of this corner i dont really do anything differently, but when i start to brake (you can see my fingers move) my bike doesnt slow down as much as it has previously. So in my mind when I was at the turn in point I felt I was still going to fast i decided to go straight and keep it though that wall came up pretty fast. I think i handled the grass pretty well though. Link to original page on YouTube. And then this busa lowsided in front of me Link to original page on YouTube. This was my 3rd track day and there were soooo many crashes it was kinda ridiculous. I would have been able to go back out but i had air in my brake lines (for sure after the crash, my brakes were working fine up until that point) but the screws for the master cylinder lid got stripped trying to take them off so i called it a day
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

July 13th, 2014, 03:36 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Yes, yes... well done in the grass. Was the busa guy good after the down? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

July 13th, 2014, 03:41 PM	#4
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	No real damage to your bike, it seems. Good save on the grass !!! __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

July 13th, 2014, 04:30 PM	#7
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	any thoughts after seeing it on vid? Looked like a double apex, you think you could have scrubbed some speed in the middle but kept a decent line and stayed on the track? The buss looked like they were over pretty far... where they crossed up? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

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July 13th, 2014, 03:37 PM	#3
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	yea he was fine, i went up to him afterwards when he got back and he is pretty excited to see the video. He was able to keep riding the rest of the day

July 13th, 2014, 04:01 PM	#5
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	nailed it!

July 13th, 2014, 04:04 PM	#6
Mbene ninjette.org member Name: Mat Location: Denver Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): Triumph Daytona 675 Posts: 35	Nice save!

July 13th, 2014, 04:47 PM	#9
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	after reviewing the video, i saw that after the apex i think i may have been able to slam it over and possibly stay on but i was just so surprised at how little my brake was working the moment i tipped in i just aborted cause i wasnt use to entering that corner that quickly. and that corner is a triple apex lul and the busa guy wasnt bad. He told me he was chasing me for a while and couldnt pass me in the corners but when he passed me on the straight i had trouble keeping up with him in some sections.

July 13th, 2014, 05:25 PM	#10
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	dude you missed it, there was a massive pileup after you left 3bikes in advanced. someone slid out in the bottom of the karussel and took 2 other riders out that were on the bank

July 13th, 2014, 06:05 PM	#15
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	oh yea, you saw the results of whatshisname's crash right (guy who had a cbr1000rr and a newgen 250 who was with another guy who had another newgen 250 and a different bike (don't remember which kind)) I also just saw the video, you were so close to stopping in time :/

July 13th, 2014, 06:47 PM	#16
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	i never got to see their bikes, and yea shenny has very little run off room. if only there had been like 10 more feet i would have been just dandy

July 14th, 2014, 07:36 AM	#19
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	@Sirref that sucks, but that is exactly why i was really iffy on letting you borrow mine when i know mine is secured in there. if i had a spare shifter i would have let you have it no problem

July 14th, 2014, 08:09 AM	#20
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	don't worry about it, just because I ask doesn't mean you're required to help me out. Luckily I managed to bend it back and keep going anyway. Next time I'll be bringing a bunch of my spare parts in a box

July 25th, 2014, 09:26 AM	#21
Xtina ninjette.org guru Name: Christina Location: Toronto Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300, 2007 Gsxr 600, R6-sold :( Posts: 270	Busa on a track?? First time I've seen someone do that. Nice grass riding. Too bad about the tip at the end.