Go Cruise Throttle Control

[Yasko]

Check this out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Go-Cruise-Th...65f2e2&vxp=mtr

Link to original page on YouTube.

[alex.s]

3 of my friends have these and swear by them


they scare the **** out of me and i would never use one though... what if you pass out or for some reason fall off or have some other kind of conciousness issue... instead of naturally rolling off the throttle and the bike slowing itself down until it falls over, it keeps going the same speed until you slam into that semi truck

[broken neck]

Well that thing is not a permanent cruise control device...

My friend has it on his BMW f 650gs and the throttle roll off by itself, not as fast a letting it go. It's more of an help for relaxing the right hand while riding a long time on a straight road...

I want one, but too lazy to ride to the store...

Maybe next year...

[red5]

I have an o-ring on my bar end for cruise. I rarely use it though unless on the interstate for a while and need a rest.

[SteveL]

I use this one works very well, I only use it when traffic density is low and then just to give the right hand a rest. They work best with big motors as they don't change speed when you are on small hills. Even the 650 changed speed quite a lot on the highway with small gradients.

Steve

http://www.casporttouring.com/thestore/prods/16022.html

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by alex.s

they scare the **** out of me and i would never use one though... what if you pass out or for some reason fall off or have some other kind of conciousness issue... instead of naturally rolling off the throttle and the bike slowing itself down until it falls over, it keeps going the same speed until you slam into that semi truck

Same here.

Pre-1960, many bikes had a throttle grip that was not returning by itself.

There is a very important safety mechanism made mandatory by many governments after that time: the self-closing throttle.

"Twist-grip throttle (Right handlebar): Must be self-closing to idle in a clockwise direction after release of hand."

You are going back 50 years, guys!!

[csmith12]

This or nothing for me.

[alex.s]

yeah i'd be down for one of those. i know a few people who use those and they seem like a much better idea than a real throttle lock.

[ChaoSS]

Originally Posted by csmith12

This or nothing for me.

I put one of those on my bike before I drove it off the showroom floor. I love it.


That being said, I want a throttle lock too, I hate not being able to take my right hand off the throttle, when it is really cold I can take my left hand off the handlebar and close it, grip it behind the windscreen, and warm it back up a little, the right hand doesn't get that luxury.


That cramp buster is great though, it makes it easier to not grip the throttle too hard, in fact, I really don't grip either bar, just have my hands on them, and throttle with my palm.

[ChaoSS]

Originally Posted by alex.s

3 of my friends have these and swear by them


they scare the **** out of me and i would never use one though... what if you pass out or for some reason fall off or have some other kind of conciousness issue... instead of naturally rolling off the throttle and the bike slowing itself down until it falls over, it keeps going the same speed until you slam into that semi truck

Does cruise control scare you in cars too? A lot of Touring bikes come with actual cruise control.


My thought is, how often do you pass out on your bike?

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by ChaoSS

Does cruise control scare you in cars too?

yes. anything that encourages someone who is in control of a massive hunk of steel to not focus on what they are doing scares the **** out of me.

[ChaoSS]

Originally Posted by alex.s

yes. anything that encourages someone who is in control of a massive hunk of steel to not focus on what they are doing scares the **** out of me.

I love it because it lets me focus on driving instead of worrying about the possibility of accidentally going 5 over and getting a ticket for it.

But then, I drive around 300 miles a day right now, plus the 150 on the bike.

[alex.s]

does your car have radar adaptive cruise control?

sorry if this sounds mean or asshole'ish, but if trying to maintain a speed is too much for you to do while focusing on driving you should not be driving. period.

[Fappy]

I have one of these throttle lock devices on my bike. I actually find it to be more annoying than it is convenient... Holding the throttle at a certain position would probably be useful ONLY on a perfectly flat, straight road with constant weather conditions and no traffic.

Otherwise I find that no sooner have I activated the throttle lock on the highway, that I need to turn it off again because I'm approaching a car, the speed didn't set quite where I wanted it, or a hill / curve came up that required me to adjust the throttle.

AND ESPECIALLY: no matter where I lock the throttle, the bike seems to slowly either accelerate or decelerate over time. Can't get a nice balance of constant speed.

I'd REALLY prefer something like in a car, that maintains a constant MPH, rather than throttle position.

[himynameisjoe]

Originally Posted by alex.s

yes. anything that encourages someone who is in control of a massive hunk of steel to not focus on what they are doing scares the **** out of me.

I have to agree with Alex on this one. The only time I ever use cruise control in the car is if my feet get tired (long drives) so I just use the cruise control as a hand throttle, not actually as a "set it and forget it" button.

Besides, everyone knows the story of the guy that set the cruise in his RV and then went to the kitchen to get himself a sandwich. Because apparently cruise control is now autopilot... if one person did it, others have and will as well.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by alex.s

does your car have radar adaptive cruise control?

sorry if this sounds mean or asshole'ish, but if trying to maintain a speed is too much for you to do while focusing on driving you should not be driving. period.

I find cruise control quite helpful on longer trips. It does help even the most precise driver to maintain speed perfectly, allowing whatever mental energy is used while driving, to simply focus on other aspects of that same driving task. On the BMW, it makes riding 1000 miles a day seem like 600-700 on a bike without cruise control.

Originally Posted by himynameisjoe

Besides, everyone knows the story of the guy that set the cruise in his RV and then went to the kitchen to get himself a sandwich. Because apparently cruise control is now autopilot... if one person did it, others have and will as well.

Everyone should know that the story was made up from the beginning. (Snopes)

[himynameisjoe]

Originally Posted by Alex

I find cruise control quite helpful on longer trips. It does help even the most precise driver to maintain speed perfectly, allowing whatever mental energy is used while driving, to simply focus on other aspects of that same driving task. On the BMW, it makes riding 1000 miles a day seem like 600-700 on a bike without cruise control.



Everyone should know that the story was made up from the beginning. (Snopes)

Even so, you know some idiot somewhere probably has done that, or at least thought about it.

Idk cruise control scares me, it always has. It used to scare me on my lawnmower. You don't realize how much "involuntary throttle control" goes on until you're your hurling around a tree on a lawnmower on 2 wheels hanging of the other side so it doesn't flip... and yes that really has happened. I used to have an old 60's 20 HP Cub Cadet that didn't really have any sort of limit on speed. Plus I didn't have the mow deck on it because it was used to haul, so it was incredibly light.

[alex.s]

don't get me wrong. if you are pulling a 600 mile trip through the grape vine, by all means.

...but, commuting with traffic?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by himynameisjoe

Even so, you know some idiot somewhere probably has done that, or at least thought about it.

I disagree. I find it's much more likely that people like spreading silly urban legends that make someone (older/younger/darker/lighter/more educated/less educated/local/non-local) than themselves seem stupid. Especially if it relates to something that the fictional individual owns that they themselves don't.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by alex.s

don't get me wrong. if you are pulling a 600 mile trip through the grape vine, by all means.

...but, commuting with traffic?

It's just a tool. It sets speed. If someone is using it to turn their brain off and ends up running into cars/trucks/nuns in their path, I'm not convinced that same driver would be any better without access to that same tool.

[himynameisjoe]

Originally Posted by Alex

I disagree. I find it's much more likely that people like spreading silly urban legends that make someone (older/younger/darker/lighter/more educated/less educated/local/non-local) than themselves seem stupid. Especially if it relates to something that the fictional individual owns that they themselves don't.

Also a good point, but isn't that human nature really? Or at least 1st world human nature.

If you have something that I don't :

Your face : it sucks

In my head : It's the best thing ever, I need it

To everyone else : explain why the product is horrible and why they shouldn't buy it, and how much of an idiot you are for falling for that company's scam.

Honestly, I feel like at least 50% of people that "hate" mac, are actually like that. The same with Bose, or blu ray, or any other new fangled gadget they can't afford.

(Not saying I agree with this, just making a point.)

[alex.s]

yeah. fair enough. i guess what i mean is, there are plenty of drivers who run into people by themselves... it seems to me that those people generally do a lot worse when you give them tools like cruise control (then they start paying attention to other things instead of using that extra attention to focus on the road)

[beazy411]

Originally Posted by Fappy

I'd REALLY prefer something like in a car, that maintains a constant MPH, rather than throttle position.

As long as your car/truck is new enough to not have a vacuum line cruise control, which held throttle at a set position, cruise keeps the speed w/in a set range unless you have a stick and you have to go up a nasty hill.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Fappy

I'd REALLY prefer something like in a car, that maintains a constant MPH, rather than throttle position.

No reason that any bike that already has an electronic throttle set up shouldn't have this feature onboard already. It's criminal that Ducati has thousands of dollars of electronics on the Multistrada, yet leaves this feature out. BMW has the same electronics across its line, yet it left the feature out on its GS models up until this year, probably because it provides the wrong "image" for a rugged bike like that. Even though the entire powertrain and electronics setup was identical to their other bikes that do include the cruise feature. For 2013, they are finally offering it on the GS, as Triumph put it on their new Explorer adventure bike as a differentiating feature.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Fappy

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AND ESPECIALLY: no matter where I lock the throttle, the bike seems to slowly either accelerate or decelerate over time. Can't get a nice balance of constant speed.

I'd REALLY prefer something like in a car, that maintains a constant MPH, rather than throttle position.

Exactly !

The thread's tittle does not describe what the OP's video shows.

Cruise control automatically modulates the volume of air-fuel aspired by the engine, regardless the torque demand.
Actually, the automatic transmission shifts accordingly.
It is a whole system able to make decisions that also keep a high level of safety.

The shown device locks the volume of air-fuel aspired by the engine; hence, the motorcycle will modulate the speed according to the torque demand.
If, after a low-side, the leg of the biker is trapped under a bike "upgraded" with this device, certain amount of HP's may end up rubbing against his skin at least for a few seconds until the engine stalls (unless the bike has a safety tip switch).

"Cruise control (sometimes known as speed control or autocruise) is a system that automatically controls the speed of a motor vehicle. The system takes over the throttle of the car to maintain a steady speed as set by the driver.
.......
All cruise control systems must be capable of being turned off both explicitly and automatically when the driver depresses the brake, and often also the clutch. Cruise control often includes a memory feature to resume the set speed after braking, and a coast feature to reduce the set speed without braking."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_control

Ships, airplanes and locomotives all have throttles that stay in one position without automatic return to idle; ........ but motorcycles..........

[ChaoSS]

Originally Posted by alex.s

yeah. fair enough. i guess what i mean is, there are plenty of drivers who run into people by themselves... it seems to me that those people generally do a lot worse when you give them tools like cruise control (then they start paying attention to other things instead of using that extra attention to focus on the road)

Unfortunately, those are the same geniuses who always seem to want to text, talk on the phone, shave, and change their cd, at the same time, while driving.

[NevadaWolf]

I'll be one of those in favor of cruise control.

Out here, long, flat, and straight are the rule. Going 70-80 on I-80 or Hwy 50 for hours on end is exhausting on my hand. I would love to be able to dropp my right hand for awhile just to give my hand, wrist, arm, back, neck a break.

In the car, cruise control is awesome. I use is every time I get out of town to be able to pay attention to the road cause of idiots around here. Remote does not mean lawless! It irritates me how inconsistent drivers are with their speed. I'll set it to the limit and either have a moron hopscotch around me cause they can't make up their mind if they want to speed or play it safe, or I end up breathing down the neck of driver who thinks that the limit is the maximum and prefers 20 under.

[Fappy]

Originally Posted by beazy411

As long as your car/truck is new enough to not have a vacuum line cruise control, which held throttle at a set position, cruise keeps the speed w/in a set range unless you have a stick and you have to go up a nasty hill.

Right. Computer-controlled systems are what I'm talking about. And unfortunately my car is stick (Auto-shifting please!)

Originally Posted by Alex

No reason that any bike that already has an electronic throttle set up shouldn't have this feature onboard already. It's criminal that Ducati has thousands of dollars of electronics on the Multistrada, yet leaves this feature out. BMW has the same electronics across its line, yet it left the feature out on its GS models up until this year, probably because it provides the wrong "image" for a rugged bike like that. Even though the entire powertrain and electronics setup was identical to their other bikes that do include the cruise feature. For 2013, they are finally offering it on the GS, as Triumph put it on their new Explorer adventure bike as a differentiating feature.

I think you're right. I was wondering if there was some safety consideration that was preventing manufacturers from putting it on bikes, but I suspect it's simply a cost, or an "image" issue.
Good to know that some bikes are finally coming with it standard... I looked up some pre-made kits... this website sells kits for specific bikes for around $1000

http://www.mccruise.com/collections/kawasaki

I suspect it wouldn't be rocket science to make your own, if you were electronically inclined enough to create a chip and a servo to hold the throttle, and so forth.

Originally Posted by Motofool

Ships, airplanes and locomotives all have throttles that stay in one position without automatic return to idle; ........ but motorcycles..........

It's about time already! Give us electronic cruise!

[CZroe]

My Japanese car isn't even a year old. 5-speed manual with no cruise control. Didn't want it.

[Yakaru]

Put me in the 'please' camp -- this is the product I REALLY want, but I called and they said that with sports style bikes there were clearance issues with the tank -- brakeawayproducts.com -- if anyone wants to experiment though I'm all ears
When I'm gong between Vegas and LA though I have to pull onto the side of I15 once or twice JUST to rest my hand -- it's not a matter of paying attention, just having this to hold it in place for 30-60 seconds so I can flex my fingers/palm back and forth a few times, maybe stretch my arm if it's super clear traffic.

[Fappy]

Originally Posted by Yakaru

Put me in the 'please' camp -- this is the product I REALLY want, but I called and they said that with sports style bikes there were clearance issues with the tank -- brakeawayproducts.com -- if anyone wants to experiment though I'm all ears

Clearance issues with the tank? I have almost the exact same style of throttle lock on my bike, and don't have that issue at all. They are probably referring to the fact that when you turn the handlebars ALL THE WAY to the right, the throttle lock might touch the gas tank. (which you only do while you're parking-lot maneuvering anyway...). Not really an issue in the slightest.

For the record, there's lots of similar brands out there, unless it has to be brakeawayproducts.com -- you should check out:

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/parts/...e_control.html

http://throttlemeister.com/

And just search google for "motorcycle universal throttle lock"

[Yakaru]

Thanks for the suggestions Fappy; the reason I love the brake away is the auto-disengage on using the front brake -- those don't look to have that feature but I'll definitely keep them in mind if I pull the trigger (my bike budget is totally blown ATM, so it will be a bit -- especially with my surgery next week)

[mustang5.0]

I never used it in any car and never used it on a bike.. for me, it about being alert and in tune with what going on...
just like i dont use a radio when i drive, just to hear my motor (except in the wifes econo car, its new)

[Fappy]

Originally Posted by Yakaru

Thanks for the suggestions Fappy; the reason I love the brake away is the auto-disengage on using the front brake -- those don't look to have that feature but I'll definitely keep them in mind if I pull the trigger (my bike budget is totally blown ATM, so it will be a bit -- especially with my surgery next week)

Gotcha! Well looking at the design of their throttle lock ($200! ), I see no reason why there would be "clearance issues with the gas tank." It might touch the tank slightly on full lock-to lock, but how is that a problem?

I think when you're back to looking at it, it's worth looking at it a little more. If worse comes to worst, you can try installing it and if it doesn't fit (recommend trying their Kawi Versys model), you can return it and get a refund. Just my thoughts!

[thumper64]

They could make a throttle lock that could use a solenoid to lightly hold the pulley on the carbs where it is, and some sort of basic chip could probably allow you to activate it, and have a cancel feature that could tap into the brake switch or just have a little momentary on switch that could clip to the brake cable or something.

[Yasko]

Goldwings have cruise control.

[ChaoSS]

Originally Posted by Motofool

If, after a low-side, the leg of the biker is trapped under a bike "upgraded" with this device, certain amount of HP's may end up rubbing against his skin at least for a few seconds until the engine stalls (unless the bike has a safety tip switch).

This, and what Alex.s is saying, has got me thinking. Last time I was on a jet ski, it had a little "key" thing that you put in, and it attached to a lanyard that attached to a piece of velcro that went around your wrist. You fall off, it pulls the key out, and the jetski stop instead of running away from you.


Wonder how well this would adapt on a motorcycle, maybe some sort of pin next to the kill switch, that when pulled, would do the same as hitting the kill switch. I wonder if something like that is already on the market, or how well it would sell if someone brought something like that to the market.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by ChaoSS

............Wonder how well this would adapt on a motorcycle, maybe some sort of pin next to the kill switch, that when pulled, would do the same as hitting the kill switch............

Good idea, at least for stunters:

Link to original page on YouTube.

P.S. - This video demonstrates that motorcycles can handle better without some type of riders

[Bassman]

Originally Posted by alex.s

3 of my friends have these and swear by them


they scare the **** out of me and i would never use one though... what if you pass out or for some reason fall off or have some other kind of conciousness issue... instead of naturally rolling off the throttle and the bike slowing itself down until it falls over, it keeps going the same speed until you slam into that semi truck

Make that 4 friends Easy to disengage, just roll off the throttle. I use it maybe 1% of the time, so the risk is low, but when I do It's a wonderful relief on my hand.