Help 96 ninja 250 issues

youngw · March 7th, 2010, 09:42 PM

Just bought a 250. Question, the battery in the bike is an everstart maxx ES4L-BS. Tried starting and it sounds like it cranks then just ticks and ticks.... kinda like a starter. Looking at connections and the terminals seem loose. How do I crank these down nice n tight? is this battery sufficient for this bike or should I replace with a stock one? Had it on trickle all night, lights and all work when trying to start but just ticks... leaning towards loose terminals but the bolts after I took them out dont tighten it down... Would washers work or any ideas??

Verus Cidere · March 7th, 2010, 09:53 PM

The battery, from my experience, can easily power lights and other things without having enough power to actually start the bike. My suggestion, try push starting the bike. It's difficult with the bike, as the positive neutral finder will keep you from shifting into second unless you get the bike moving fairly quickly. It helps to have 1 or 2 friends to help. If you can manage to get it started, ride around for a minimum of 20 minutes to get the battery fairly charged. Then, let it sit for a bit. If you still have the problem (aka the battery drains after you do this) then get a new battery. If you can't get it started this way, I don't know what to do. That's just what has helped me when I accidentally drained my battery a couple of times. Good luck finding the problem!

OldGuy · March 7th, 2010, 10:01 PM

Bill - welcome to the forum. With an unknown battery I would suggest two things; 1) purchase a battery tender since you will need one sooner or later and charge the battery up and go from there or 2) buy a new battery and a battery tender.

The battery is the heart of your electrical system and with out a good one you will find yourself chasing gremlins.

youngw · March 8th, 2010, 07:47 AM

Thank You and I will be purchasing another battery. In the meantime it has been sitting and I pulled the tank off and changed the plugs.
Here is a question the right plug when I put the cap in and pushed down it clicks and I think it is on the plug but it is very loose. It wobbles and does not look like it is flush with the cylinder head. Is this normal? What could be wrong. Also to check for spark can I pull out the plug put the cap on just touch the plug to the head and crank it. I should see a blue spark if the plugs are good right?? Sorry totally new at all this.

Snake · March 8th, 2010, 08:24 AM

Yes you can ground the spark plug to the head and shoud be able to see a spark. I would advise you to wear gloves while holding it to prevent being shocked.

youngw · March 9th, 2010, 10:20 AM

Got multimeter, what should battery read when attempting to start?

Terminals seem loose, is there a way to crank these down and secure a tight connection? Can I add washers? Or place a small nut underneath

Slabrocks · March 13th, 2010, 08:17 PM

I had enough power to start my bike one time, but if i didnt ride it without killing it the 1st time, it would die. i replaced the battery as it just barely had enough cranking amps left to turn it over.
I started a thread about it. It may be worth checking out

youngw · March 14th, 2010, 08:44 AM

Is there a link to the thread?
Do you remember what it was under so I can search

Slabrocks · March 14th, 2010, 09:08 AM

here ya go.
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38927

youngw · March 14th, 2010, 03:53 PM

OK,
turns out battery was wrong one... Just got relalcement and charging now.
I know the fuel hoses and lines are all messed up. Some are missing and I am attempting to just see if it will kick over with starter fluid before I invest more.
Is there is tutorial for fuel line hoses and carb lines... Looks like I have a CA emmisions bike but the fuel tank only has one line coming out. Petcock only has one as well??? Stumped????
Any advice?
Thanks

youngw · March 14th, 2010, 04:36 PM

Great...
On top of all this i just drained the tank, removed petcock and for fun turned the tank upside down and jostled it a bit. When I shake it it sounds like there is sand and dirt sloshing around?? Is this normal? Is there any way to completely clean the tank??

Note:
Fuel that was drained was clear and not a sign of dirt or rust???

kkim · March 14th, 2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngw

Great...
On top of all this i just drained the tank, removed petcock and for fun turned the tank upside down and jostled it a bit. When I shake it it sounds like there is sand and dirt sloshing around?? Is this normal? Is there any way to completely clean the tank??

Note:
Fuel that was drained was clear and not a sign of dirt or rust???

most likely rust in the tank. take the tank off, fill with some gas, slosh it around and dump it out the gas fill hole. dump it through a cloth filter so you can see what the stuff is in the tank. repeat the process until no more stuff come out on the cloth.

install an inline fuel filter for insurance. drain your carb bowls to make sure nothing has made it's way there.

youngw · March 15th, 2010, 08:45 AM

Thank You KKIM,
Finally got the bike to kick over with starter fluid and new battery.
Now on to the intake.
Petcock has been removed, I only have 1 filter sticking up, the long one. The shorter one is missing, and as far as the vaccuum line goes I see a hole behind the fuel nipple but is there a hose that goes in there? If so where does the other end attach to. Wondering if anyone has a link or can direct me to somewhere when I can buy new lines and a diagram to install them.
Cant wait to confirm the petcock is working

kkim · March 15th, 2010, 11:12 AM

ignore most of the other lines in this drawing. you are interested in the orange line. Go to the auto parts store and buy some vacuum hose if yours is missing. without that vacuum line to the petcock, gas cannot flow from the tank to the carbs.

youngw · March 16th, 2010, 12:15 PM

KKIM YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!
Thank you,
Now issue is my petcock, the vacuum nipple is not there...
Looks like a new petcock is in store. Is there an aftermarket one I can use to avoid the vacuum or no?

kkim · March 16th, 2010, 01:17 PM

um... can you take a pic of the petcock you have? as far as I know, all ninja 250s came with a vacuum operated petcock. The other question is... if you have no vacuum line to the petcock right now, what happened to the line from the carb that is supposed to be running over to it? It not capped of, a vacuum leak at the carb would make the bike run like crap. make sure the tap for the vacuum line at the carb is blocked off.

some background of the bike? I know you just bought it, but was it running before that or did you buy it not running? accidents/damage, mileage... etc???

youngw · March 16th, 2010, 01:30 PM

Bike was not running when purchased. Sure it has been dropped as has some dings and dents, has 9800 miles, the petcock I have is vacuum operated, just the space where the brass valve should be for the hose to clamp the hose to is missing. Just a hole leading up into the petcock. Will see if I can upload a few pics when I get home.
Thanks

youngw · March 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM

found a '01 petcock online used for sale will that fit a '96?

Slabrocks · March 16th, 2010, 01:50 PM

looks like you are getting it worked out.

im just sitting back and learning right now.

kkim · March 16th, 2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngw

found a '01 petcock online used for sale will that fit a '96?

it should.

Do you know how long the bike was sitting unused before you purchased it? Sounds like the previous owner did some monkeying around with it in the past to solve some fuel issue if the petcock you have has no vacuum nipple.

pics would explain a lot.

youngw · March 17th, 2010, 10:13 AM

Just bought a new one from Kawasaki. Hopefully this will solve the issue.
Thanks and will let you know once it arrives.

Slabrocks · March 17th, 2010, 10:15 AM

hey, lets still see pics of the old one. it may help someone else if they search for this issue.

youngw · March 18th, 2010, 10:58 AM

Here guys....
Any ideas what happened

kkim · March 18th, 2010, 11:16 AM

can you post a pic of the back? what's all the green stuff... paint?

youngw · March 19th, 2010, 09:10 AM

Yes,
It is paint peeling off. The back looks fine, I can post one once I get home.

youngw · March 19th, 2010, 09:10 AM

Any ideas on what the heck happened. Is this just not even the proper part? Older one?? I'm stumped...

FrugalNinja250 · March 19th, 2010, 10:30 AM

It looks like there should be a brass nipple in the hole to the right of the main fuel nipple, like you can see in this add on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...Q5fAccessories

Either yours is missing somehow, or that petcock is actually from a different bike that didn't use the vacuum feature.

youngw · March 20th, 2010, 01:24 PM

Installed new petcock, finally got bike to kick over.
Now the fun part:
1) Bike idles at maybe 1rpm for about 10 seconds, creeping its way up to 2rpm and as soon as I touch the throttle it dies

2) The gas tank has one line coming out the back, no hose was attached where does that line go and what for?

3) The top of the engine head has an open kind of large hole, should anything be there like a hose or plug of some sort? Sorry this bike was given to me and I have no idea what I am doing.

Please help me to trouble shoot guys You have been awesome so far!!!
Thanks

Slabrocks · March 20th, 2010, 08:57 PM

as far as the idle, are you on full choke when you start it? if that is, the next thing to check out for that is the little black plastic star that is just under the petcock. it may be turned way down. when the bike is fully idling and warmed up, it should be about 1500-1800 rpm.

it sounds like you still have some lines that need to be plugged or hosed to other spots. this is probably what needs more attention than anything else. maybe try sticking your finger over it when you try to rev the bike and see if anything different happens.

as before, can you take a pic of the #3 issue?
youll get it dialed in soon and love it.

youngw · March 21st, 2010, 05:57 AM

Will take a few pics when I get camera.
The diagram kkim posted helped but his shouws the gas tank with 2 hoses coming out. My tank only has 1. Where does that line go to. The little cylinder thing on the left side is there and right now there are 2 lines open. One says to tank, other is at top and not sure what these are for and how to fix.
Will take a pic in a few.
Thanks guys

youngw · March 21st, 2010, 09:52 AM

Here are some pics....
Thanks for all the help guys

The one of the engine you can see a large black opening. Is that supposed to have a hose or plugged off of some sort?

Slabrocks · March 21st, 2010, 11:12 AM

these pics are millions of times better than the 1st 2.
here is a pic of mine showing a hose going from the "hole" you show.
Im sure it will help

Slabrocks · March 21st, 2010, 11:14 AM

now that im looking at it again, i think the hose goes to the airbox. if you dont have an exact hose, it looks like you could put a breather type filter on it. But, being a motorcycle, there is no hood to keep out sand dust and water like a car, so i would surely put a hose on it so the nasty stuff stays out of the motor.

P.S. GREEN IS AWESOME!!!!

kkim · March 21st, 2010, 11:28 AM

the picture I posted was of a California emissions setup. If yours is not a Cali bike, it will be a little different from the picture. I was using it to illustrate where the vacuum hose should be connected to the fuel petcock.

Yes, that large hole on the engine is the crankcase vent which is usually connected by a hose to the airbox as slabrocks has shown.

As far as other hoses to the tank, someone with a non Cali pregen will need to help you out or I highly recommend you source a service manual for your bike.

Slabrocks · March 21st, 2010, 11:30 AM

i can take pics of any part of my bike you may need (non Cali bike), with my rotten story of where i think the lines are going. when i dont get it right, kelly will be sure to get things back on track for you.

youngw · March 21st, 2010, 11:31 AM

Now I cant get the bike to kick over. I am trying to start it so much the battery is beginning to die...

I just checked the petcock...
With the hoses hooked up, I unplugged the fuel line from the carb and hung it down to a can, started cranking the engine with the valve on the on position, and LOW and BEHOLD... NOTHING... No fuel is coming out from the petcock...
I am perplexed. What the F***
How can I test to see how to get fuel coming out of the fuel line???

Slabrocks · March 21st, 2010, 11:34 AM

for now, put the battery on a 2 amp charger while you get the lines right.

you have found this page right???
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Main_Page
I feel that it it better than any service manual. color pics with explanations of things that could break or what to look for along the way

Slabrocks · March 21st, 2010, 11:35 AM

double post. my connection sucks today

youngw · March 21st, 2010, 11:48 AM

I just checked the petcock...
With the hoses hooked up, I unplugged the fuel line from the carb and hung it down to a can, started cranking the engine with the valve on the on position, and LOW and BEHOLD... NOTHING... No fuel is coming out from the petcock...
I am perplexed. What the F***
How can I test to see how to get fuel coming out of the fuel line???

kkim · March 21st, 2010, 11:53 AM

take the vacuum hose from the backside of the petcock and apply vacuum to it by sucking on the vacuum hose. it should provide enough vacuum to the diaphragm inside the petcock to allow fuel to flow through it. try that and see if that works.

March 7th, 2010, 09:42 PM	#1
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Help 96 ninja 250 issues Just bought a 250. Question, the battery in the bike is an everstart maxx ES4L-BS. Tried starting and it sounds like it cranks then just ticks and ticks.... kinda like a starter. Looking at connections and the terminals seem loose. How do I crank these down nice n tight? is this battery sufficient for this bike or should I replace with a stock one? Had it on trickle all night, lights and all work when trying to start but just ticks... leaning towards loose terminals but the bolts after I took them out dont tighten it down... Would washers work or any ideas??

March 7th, 2010, 09:53 PM	#2
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	The battery, from my experience, can easily power lights and other things without having enough power to actually start the bike. My suggestion, try push starting the bike. It's difficult with the bike, as the positive neutral finder will keep you from shifting into second unless you get the bike moving fairly quickly. It helps to have 1 or 2 friends to help. If you can manage to get it started, ride around for a minimum of 20 minutes to get the battery fairly charged. Then, let it sit for a bit. If you still have the problem (aka the battery drains after you do this) then get a new battery. If you can't get it started this way, I don't know what to do. That's just what has helped me when I accidentally drained my battery a couple of times. Good luck finding the problem! __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

March 13th, 2010, 08:17 PM	#7
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	I had enough power to start my bike one time, but if i didnt ride it without killing it the 1st time, it would die. i replaced the battery as it just barely had enough cranking amps left to turn it over. I started a thread about it. It may be worth checking out __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 14th, 2010, 09:08 AM	#9
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	here ya go. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38927 __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 16th, 2010, 01:50 PM	#19
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	looks like you are getting it worked out. im just sitting back and learning right now. __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 7th, 2010, 10:01 PM	#3
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Bill - welcome to the forum. With an unknown battery I would suggest two things; 1) purchase a battery tender since you will need one sooner or later and charge the battery up and go from there or 2) buy a new battery and a battery tender. The battery is the heart of your electrical system and with out a good one you will find yourself chasing gremlins. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

March 8th, 2010, 07:47 AM	#4
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Thank You and I will be purchasing another battery. In the meantime it has been sitting and I pulled the tank off and changed the plugs. Here is a question the right plug when I put the cap in and pushed down it clicks and I think it is on the plug but it is very loose. It wobbles and does not look like it is flush with the cylinder head. Is this normal? What could be wrong. Also to check for spark can I pull out the plug put the cap on just touch the plug to the head and crank it. I should see a blue spark if the plugs are good right?? Sorry totally new at all this.

March 8th, 2010, 08:24 AM	#5
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Yes you can ground the spark plug to the head and shoud be able to see a spark. I would advise you to wear gloves while holding it to prevent being shocked.

March 9th, 2010, 10:20 AM	#6
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Got multimeter, what should battery read when attempting to start? Terminals seem loose, is there a way to crank these down and secure a tight connection? Can I add washers? Or place a small nut underneath

March 14th, 2010, 08:44 AM	#8
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Is there a link to the thread? Do you remember what it was under so I can search

March 14th, 2010, 03:53 PM	#10
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	OK, turns out battery was wrong one... Just got relalcement and charging now. I know the fuel hoses and lines are all messed up. Some are missing and I am attempting to just see if it will kick over with starter fluid before I invest more. Is there is tutorial for fuel line hoses and carb lines... Looks like I have a CA emmisions bike but the fuel tank only has one line coming out. Petcock only has one as well??? Stumped???? Any advice? Thanks

March 14th, 2010, 04:36 PM	#11
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Great... On top of all this i just drained the tank, removed petcock and for fun turned the tank upside down and jostled it a bit. When I shake it it sounds like there is sand and dirt sloshing around?? Is this normal? Is there any way to completely clean the tank?? Note: Fuel that was drained was clear and not a sign of dirt or rust???

March 15th, 2010, 08:45 AM	#13
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Thank You KKIM, Finally got the bike to kick over with starter fluid and new battery. Now on to the intake. Petcock has been removed, I only have 1 filter sticking up, the long one. The shorter one is missing, and as far as the vaccuum line goes I see a hole behind the fuel nipple but is there a hose that goes in there? If so where does the other end attach to. Wondering if anyone has a link or can direct me to somewhere when I can buy new lines and a diagram to install them. Cant wait to confirm the petcock is working

March 15th, 2010, 11:12 AM	#14
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	ignore most of the other lines in this drawing. you are interested in the orange line. Go to the auto parts store and buy some vacuum hose if yours is missing. without that vacuum line to the petcock, gas cannot flow from the tank to the carbs.

March 16th, 2010, 12:15 PM	#15
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	KKIM YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! Thank you, Now issue is my petcock, the vacuum nipple is not there... Looks like a new petcock is in store. Is there an aftermarket one I can use to avoid the vacuum or no?

March 16th, 2010, 01:17 PM	#16
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	um... can you take a pic of the petcock you have? as far as I know, all ninja 250s came with a vacuum operated petcock. The other question is... if you have no vacuum line to the petcock right now, what happened to the line from the carb that is supposed to be running over to it? It not capped of, a vacuum leak at the carb would make the bike run like crap. make sure the tap for the vacuum line at the carb is blocked off. some background of the bike? I know you just bought it, but was it running before that or did you buy it not running? accidents/damage, mileage... etc???

March 16th, 2010, 01:30 PM	#17
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Bike was not running when purchased. Sure it has been dropped as has some dings and dents, has 9800 miles, the petcock I have is vacuum operated, just the space where the brass valve should be for the hose to clamp the hose to is missing. Just a hole leading up into the petcock. Will see if I can upload a few pics when I get home. Thanks

March 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM	#18
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	found a '01 petcock online used for sale will that fit a '96?

March 17th, 2010, 10:13 AM	#21
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Just bought a new one from Kawasaki. Hopefully this will solve the issue. Thanks and will let you know once it arrives.

March 17th, 2010, 10:15 AM	#22
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	hey, lets still see pics of the old one. it may help someone else if they search for this issue. __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 18th, 2010, 11:16 AM	#24
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	can you post a pic of the back? what's all the green stuff... paint?

March 19th, 2010, 09:10 AM	#25
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Yes, It is paint peeling off. The back looks fine, I can post one once I get home.

March 19th, 2010, 10:30 AM	#27
FrugalNinja250 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Frugal Location: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: A lot.	It looks like there should be a brass nipple in the hole to the right of the main fuel nipple, like you can see in this add on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...Q5fAccessories Either yours is missing somehow, or that petcock is actually from a different bike that didn't use the vacuum feature.

March 20th, 2010, 01:24 PM	#28
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Installed new petcock, finally got bike to kick over. Now the fun part: 1) Bike idles at maybe 1rpm for about 10 seconds, creeping its way up to 2rpm and as soon as I touch the throttle it dies 2) The gas tank has one line coming out the back, no hose was attached where does that line go and what for? 3) The top of the engine head has an open kind of large hole, should anything be there like a hose or plug of some sort? Sorry this bike was given to me and I have no idea what I am doing. Please help me to trouble shoot guys You have been awesome so far!!! Thanks

March 20th, 2010, 08:57 PM	#29
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	as far as the idle, are you on full choke when you start it? if that is, the next thing to check out for that is the little black plastic star that is just under the petcock. it may be turned way down. when the bike is fully idling and warmed up, it should be about 1500-1800 rpm. it sounds like you still have some lines that need to be plugged or hosed to other spots. this is probably what needs more attention than anything else. maybe try sticking your finger over it when you try to rev the bike and see if anything different happens. as before, can you take a pic of the #3 issue? youll get it dialed in soon and love it. __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 21st, 2010, 05:57 AM	#30
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Will take a few pics when I get camera. The diagram kkim posted helped but his shouws the gas tank with 2 hoses coming out. My tank only has 1. Where does that line go to. The little cylinder thing on the left side is there and right now there are 2 lines open. One says to tank, other is at top and not sure what these are for and how to fix. Will take a pic in a few. Thanks guys

March 21st, 2010, 11:12 AM	#32
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	these pics are millions of times better than the 1st 2. here is a pic of mine showing a hose going from the "hole" you show. Im sure it will help __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 21st, 2010, 11:14 AM	#33
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	now that im looking at it again, i think the hose goes to the airbox. if you dont have an exact hose, it looks like you could put a breather type filter on it. But, being a motorcycle, there is no hood to keep out sand dust and water like a car, so i would surely put a hose on it so the nasty stuff stays out of the motor. P.S. GREEN IS AWESOME!!!! __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 21st, 2010, 11:28 AM	#34
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	the picture I posted was of a California emissions setup. If yours is not a Cali bike, it will be a little different from the picture. I was using it to illustrate where the vacuum hose should be connected to the fuel petcock. Yes, that large hole on the engine is the crankcase vent which is usually connected by a hose to the airbox as slabrocks has shown. As far as other hoses to the tank, someone with a non Cali pregen will need to help you out or I highly recommend you source a service manual for your bike.

March 21st, 2010, 11:30 AM	#35
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	i can take pics of any part of my bike you may need (non Cali bike), with my rotten story of where i think the lines are going. when i dont get it right, kelly will be sure to get things back on track for you. __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 21st, 2010, 11:31 AM	#36
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Now I cant get the bike to kick over. I am trying to start it so much the battery is beginning to die... I just checked the petcock... With the hoses hooked up, I unplugged the fuel line from the carb and hung it down to a can, started cranking the engine with the valve on the on position, and LOW and BEHOLD... NOTHING... No fuel is coming out from the petcock... I am perplexed. What the F*** How can I test to see how to get fuel coming out of the fuel line???

March 21st, 2010, 11:34 AM	#37
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	for now, put the battery on a 2 amp charger while you get the lines right. you have found this page right??? http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Main_Page I feel that it it better than any service manual. color pics with explanations of things that could break or what to look for along the way __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 21st, 2010, 11:35 AM	#38
Slabrocks ninjette.org member Name: Slab Location: indiana Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 01 Ninja 250 Posts: 102	double post. my connection sucks today __________________________________________________ "Helmets are like rubbers, you know you should wear one, but its so much better when you don't." Zerk from ADV

March 21st, 2010, 11:48 AM	#39
youngw ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: az Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 06 ex 250 Posts: 25	Help??!! I just checked the petcock... With the hoses hooked up, I unplugged the fuel line from the carb and hung it down to a can, started cranking the engine with the valve on the on position, and LOW and BEHOLD... NOTHING... No fuel is coming out from the petcock... I am perplexed. What the F*** How can I test to see how to get fuel coming out of the fuel line???

March 21st, 2010, 11:53 AM	#40
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	take the vacuum hose from the backside of the petcock and apply vacuum to it by sucking on the vacuum hose. it should provide enough vacuum to the diaphragm inside the petcock to allow fuel to flow through it. try that and see if that works.