Ignition delete

steadyeddie · November 10th, 2010, 09:03 PM

Has anyone deleted their igniton switch and used the kill switch instead? Race only so I want to get rid of the keyed switch. Not an electrical guru so I need some guidance.

jonthechron · November 11th, 2010, 01:12 AM

Fairly easy, I haven't done it but it's not hard. I'll look at the diagram tomorow and provide you with the howto.

M · November 11th, 2010, 01:05 PM

Here's a wiring diagram that'll show you the ignition setup for the 'F' model:

http://faq.ninja250.org/images/0/00/...matic_Rev2.pdf

The '93-07 models have a 100Ω resistor in the ignition that acts as a theft deterrent. You'll have to bypass this resistor:

brown => white
brown => 100 ohm resistor => grey

I do not know if this is the exact same for the 'J' models, though I'm confident that the resistor is still there.

CZroe · November 11th, 2010, 02:14 PM

I saw someone on here was selling a lock set and gas cap after their race conversion. I'm not sure that they went THAT far though.

Edit:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59011
Looks like he did because he's supposedly selling the ignition switch and is offering a wiring diagram to use the toggle for ignition.

demp · November 11th, 2010, 02:45 PM

I don't know if it's true or not, but I remember hearing advice not to use the killswitch too often - because the switch itself is cheap and ends up staying in the "off" position... something along those lines anyways

steadyeddie · November 11th, 2010, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demp

I don't know if it's true or not, but I remember hearing advice not to use the killswitch too often - because the switch itself is cheap and ends up staying in the "off" position... something along those lines anyways

Been using the kill switch as the only on/off on my race SV for 2 years now and not a single problem. I completely rewired the SV down to 8 wires so it was easy to do. The 250 has to remain ss legal so I can not trash the wire harness. I do not know electronics so hoping someone can provide a detailed schematic.

Thought about a toggle switch to replace the key, but that seems counter-productive: just replacing 1 switch with another.

jonthechron, many thanks in advance for the info.

Racer x · November 12th, 2010, 05:15 AM

I removed the key and ignition . I was afraid I would loose the Key and I also had to remove the lock from the frame( It got in the way of some wiring).

Now I am rewiring the whole bike. I am going to have a relay to power everything on the bike. The power for the relay will be an on off switch. And the ground for the relay will be through a tethered kill switch . If the switch is pushed or the clip comes out .The power is removed from the relay , That will kill power to the whole bike.

Originally I had two kill switches .One for ignition and one for Nitrous.But now I will combine everything.

headshrink · November 13th, 2010, 09:06 PM

Fantastic, Eric - would love to see more pics.

steadyeddie · November 27th, 2010, 09:46 PM

Ignition switch is gone. Wiring was really quite easy. Can be returned to stock if wanted. I'll have to buy a new ignition switch because I didn't know exactly which resister to buy so I took it out of my existing switch, destroying it. Oh well, mission accomplished.

Alex · November 27th, 2010, 09:51 PM

Nice! Glad it worked out.

Bueller999 · January 16th, 2011, 05:40 PM

Does anyone know what the resistor value is or have a wiring diagram for this?

EDIT: Got it taken care of, thanks

CC Cowboy · January 17th, 2011, 09:03 AM

Steady, cool name. Great avatar also. You look like a professional.

Order · January 17th, 2011, 07:17 PM

Someone should do a step-by-steo writeup + photos..

scotty · January 17th, 2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Order

Someone should do a step-by-steo writeup + photos..

Yeah, that be a good idea!

Thuevo · January 23rd, 2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty

Yeah, that be a good idea!

Sorry but.this diagrams is for 2008/2010 model?
i make new bike with ninja 250 engine y and then i connected the gray without the resistor (go and I think I frying the ignition: P

Thuevo · January 23rd, 2012, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty

Yeah, that be a good idea!

Sorry but.this diagrams is for 2008/2010 model?

i make new bike , and then connected the gray to 12v line without the resistor and I think I frying the igniter : P

blegerton · November 7th, 2013, 04:32 PM

for the 2008 model, where did you rout the white wire, the white and black wire and the brown. did you just tie the grey and white/black wire together with the resistor? and which if any wires did you locate to the right bar harness?
I am having a hard time with the whole thing, I can rip the motor apart but the wiring is a bitch to get the hang of.

November 10th, 2010, 09:03 PM	#1
steadyeddie ninjette.org member Name: SB Location: Canada Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 99 ZRX, 2000SVSuperbike, 05 ZZR 250, 09 250R Posts: 27	Ignition delete Has anyone deleted their igniton switch and used the kill switch instead? Race only so I want to get rid of the keyed switch. Not an electrical guru so I need some guidance.

November 11th, 2010, 01:05 PM	#3
M ninjette.org member Name: M Location: Oklahoma Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 x2, Ninja 650R Posts: 165	Here's a wiring diagram that'll show you the ignition setup for the 'F' model: http://faq.ninja250.org/images/0/00/...matic_Rev2.pdf The '93-07 models have a 100Ω resistor in the ignition that acts as a theft deterrent. You'll have to bypass this resistor: brown => white brown => 100 ohm resistor => grey I do not know if this is the exact same for the 'J' models, though I'm confident that the resistor is still there. __________________________________________________ The Rally - Oklahoma

November 13th, 2010, 09:06 PM	#8
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Fantastic, Eric - would love to see more pics. __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

November 27th, 2010, 09:51 PM	#10
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January 16th, 2011, 05:40 PM	#11
Bueller999 Oldie but a goodie Name: David Location: Aurora, CO Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 650r, 06 SV 650 race, 08 250r race, 03 Buell XB9s, 01 KTM 300 EXC Posts: 131	Does anyone know what the resistor value is or have a wiring diagram for this? EDIT: Got it taken care of, thanks Last futzed with by Bueller999; January 17th, 2011 at 02:06 PM.

November 11th, 2010, 01:12 AM	#2
jonthechron ninjette.org sage Name: Jon Location: Usa Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): magHitVE Posts: 649	Fairly easy, I haven't done it but it's not hard. I'll look at the diagram tomorow and provide you with the howto.

November 11th, 2010, 02:14 PM	#4
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	I saw someone on here was selling a lock set and gas cap after their race conversion. I'm not sure that they went THAT far though. Edit: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59011 Looks like he did because he's supposedly selling the ignition switch and is offering a wiring diagram to use the toggle for ignition.

November 11th, 2010, 02:45 PM	#5
demp ninjette.org sage Name: Matthew Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 V-Star 950 Tourer (Deep Blue) Posts: 570	I don't know if it's true or not, but I remember hearing advice not to use the killswitch too often - because the switch itself is cheap and ends up staying in the "off" position... something along those lines anyways

November 27th, 2010, 09:46 PM	#9
steadyeddie ninjette.org member Name: SB Location: Canada Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 99 ZRX, 2000SVSuperbike, 05 ZZR 250, 09 250R Posts: 27	Ignition switch is gone. Wiring was really quite easy. Can be returned to stock if wanted. I'll have to buy a new ignition switch because I didn't know exactly which resister to buy so I took it out of my existing switch, destroying it. Oh well, mission accomplished.

January 17th, 2011, 09:03 AM	#12
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Steady, cool name. Great avatar also. You look like a professional. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

January 17th, 2011, 07:17 PM	#13
Order ninjette.org member Name: Adam Location: Washington Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (race), 01 Ninja ZX6R (race), 00 Ninja ZX6R (street), 03 R6 (race) Posts: 68	Someone should do a step-by-steo writeup + photos..

November 7th, 2013, 04:32 PM	#17
blegerton ninjette.org newbie Name: robert Location: orlando,fl Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 2008 Posts: 9	for the 2008 model, where did you rout the white wire, the white and black wire and the brown. did you just tie the grey and white/black wire together with the resistor? and which if any wires did you locate to the right bar harness? I am having a hard time with the whole thing, I can rip the motor apart but the wiring is a bitch to get the hang of.

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